Author Topic: Can You Debunk Flat Earth? (Read 31503 times)

guest2 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 11, 2018, 08:44:23 pm »

Quote from: Theo102 on October 11, 2018, 06:27:55 pm

OK, so they've scaled up the Bedford Level experiment. What you're looking at is the curvature of spacetime near the massive body which is the earth. The astronomical version of this phenomena is called a gravitational lens.

http://w.astro.berkeley.edu/~jcohn/lens.html

Cute.

But even gravitational lensing does not bring anything into sight that is not already at least partially visible from the observers point of view.

Therefore it is irrelevant as to the point that one should not be able to see those distant mountains.

AdamHowell · « **Reply #14 on:** October 11, 2018, 09:16:46 pm »

For every video that supposedly shows a distance that should have been obscured by the curvature of the Earth (caused by refraction), there is a video that clearly shows the curvature of the Earth obscuring something (caused by perspective?). I stopped caring about videos like those when I realized that neither side was going to convince anyone with such videos.

Theo102 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 11, 2018, 10:25:10 pm »

Quote from: 1Mind1Spirit on October 11, 2018, 08:44:23 pm

But even gravitational lensing does not bring anything into sight that is not already at least partially visible from the observers point of view.

In theory it could. Lensing bends light, and bent light can go around obstructions.

guest2 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 12, 2018, 07:58:49 pm »

Quote from: Theo102 on October 11, 2018, 10:25:10 pm

Quote from: 1Mind1Spirit on October 11, 2018, 08:44:23 pm
But even gravitational lensing does not bring anything into sight that is not already at least partially visible from the observers point of view.
In theory it could. Lensing bends light, and bent light can go around obstructions.

When you find a physical example let me know.

Theo102 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 13, 2018, 03:11:38 pm »

Quote

When you find a physical example let me know.

if you can't understand the theory then how could you interpret the observation?

patrick jane · « **Reply #18 on:** November 11, 2018, 07:43:12 am »

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Theo102 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 12, 2018, 02:12:48 am »

The angle of Polaris matching the latitude of the observer debunks the FE pretty well, just as the consistent apparent size of the moon does. If the moon was relatively close then it should appear to be bigger overhead.

patrick jane · « **Reply #20 on:** November 12, 2018, 07:50:31 am »

Quote from: Theo102 on November 12, 2018, 02:12:48 am

The angle of Polaris matching the latitude of the observer debunks the FE pretty well, just as the consistent apparent size of the moon does. If the moon was relatively close then it should appear to be bigger overhead.

Apparently you haven't watched any of the videos I posted, nor have you ever researched flat earth. Polaris proves flat earth and the size of the moon is the same as the sun, about 50 miles wide. The sun and moon are equal in size like Enoch tells us and they are much closer at about 3,000 to 5,000 miles away.

patrick jane · « **Reply #21 on:** November 16, 2018, 08:21:14 am »

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patrick jane · « **Reply #22 on:** November 22, 2018, 05:30:48 pm »

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patrick jane · « **Reply #23 on:** November 22, 2018, 08:09:27 pm »

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patrick jane · « **Reply #24 on:** November 25, 2018, 07:13:29 am »

The heavens have an end and the heavens are measured and can be measured by God alone. Deep endless infinite space does not exist. As God tells here in Psalm 19, the sun's going forth (moving) is from the end of the heaven . . . The sun moves, the moon moves, stars move, debris in the firmament move, the earth does NOT move.

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19 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,

5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.

8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.

9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.

10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.

13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.

14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.

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patrick jane · « **Reply #25 on:** January 29, 2019, 08:34:22 pm »

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