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[Galatians 1:22 KJV] "And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:"
[Galatians 1:23 KJV] "But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed."

This passage is Paul speaking about the churches of Judea.
They were definitely churches.
They HEARD ONLY that Paul who persecuted them now preached the faith. The faith which Paul once destroyed was the faith of the little flock believing remnant of Israel. They believed only that Jesus was Christ, the Son of God. That they HEARD ONLY of Paul's conversion means they hadn't heard Paul's gospel, which  means they weren't in the body of Christ.
This does indeed prove there is a little flock church.

I will show that there were two churches that for a time existed together. There was a church in Jerusalem I call the temple church, the little flock and the believing remnant of Israel. This church had Peter and the eleven as their apostles. Then after Paul's conversion Jesus revealed to him the church, the body of Christ. Paul is our apostle in the body.

[Matthew 9:35 KJV] "And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.".........The gospel of the kingdom Christ was that the time was fulfilled for Israel to receive their prophetic Davidic kingdom on earth.

[Luke 12:32 KJV] "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."........the little flock of believing Israel will be given the Davidic kingdom on earth.

[2 Samuel 7:12 KJV] "And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom."
[2 Samuel 7:13 KJV] "He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever."..........This passage establishes that the throne of David will be established forever. Christ will rule in David's throne in the millennial kingdom.

[Exodus 19:5 KJV] "Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth [is] mine:"
[Exodus 19:6 KJV] "And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These [are] the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel............Only Israel was promised to be priests and an holy nation...............[1 Peter 1:1 KJV] "Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,".........Peter is writing to the scattered little flock believing remnant.,,...,,,,,,,,[1 Peter 2:9 KJV] "But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:"...........Peter is saying the scattered little flock will be the priesthood and holy nation promised in Exodus 19:5-6. Paul never applies this to the body of Christ; he never says the body of Christ will be a holy nation or a priesthood.

[Galatians 1:13 KJV] "For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:".........The church of God Paul persecuted was not the body of Christ. The body of Christ revealed to Paul by Jesus wasn't yet revealed.............[Acts 7:58 KJV] "And cast [him] out of the city, and stoned [him]: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul."
[Acts 7:59 KJV] "And they stoned Stephen, calling upon [God], and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit."[Acts 8:1 KJV] "And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles."
[Acts 11:19 KJV] "Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.".........Paul(Saul) consented to Stephen's death and Paul's persecution of the little flock resulted in them being scattered.

[Psalm 44:11 KJV] "Thou hast given us like sheep [appointed] for meat; and hast scattered us among the heathen."............God scattered Israel.

[Joel 3:2 KJV] "I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and [for] my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land."
[Matthew 9:36 KJV] "But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them, because they fainted, and were scattered abroad, as sheep having no shepherd."
[John 11:52 KJV] "And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad."..........Scripture describes the children of God, Israel, as being scattered as can be seen in James..........[James 1:1 KJV] "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting."

The church that Paul persecuted can only be the little flock that was scattered. The believing remnant of Israel were scattered. This was the only church that existed for Paul to persecute, the body of Christ was yet to be revealed. The church under Peter was primarily composed of believing Jews. Gentiles weren't included, for the most part, until Acts 10. Nowhere in scripture is the body of Christ said to be scattered. The only entity that was scattered was the believing remnant of Israel.

[1 Corinthians 11:5 KJV] "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with [her] head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.".........This passage is difficult, and I don't say I have the ability to explain it. I will only present scripture that I think pertains to this passage and are pertinent for consideration. How can Paul say a women can prophesy in the church if she has to be silent?.......[1 Corinthians 14:34 KJV] "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.".

There were no commandments specifically addressing women's head coverings that I could find. We can find a few verses that verify head coverings were a practice among women...........  [Genesis 24:65 KJV] "For she [had] said unto the servant, What man [is] this that walketh in the field to meet us? And the servant [had] said, It [is] my master: therefore she took a vail, and covered herself."
[Song of Songs 5:7 KJV] "The watchmen that went about the city found me, they smote me, they wounded me; the keepers of the walls took away my veil from me."
[Numbers 5:18 KJV] "And the priest shall set the woman before the LORD, and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which [is] the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse:"........head coverings were common in the old testament.

I couldn't find any verses that could shed light on this verse....[1 Corinthians 11:6 KJV] "For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.".......This is the only related verse I could find........[Deuteronomy 21:11 KJV] "And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;"
[Deuteronomy 21:12 KJV] "Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;"........were captive women uncovered and had to be shorn?

There were women in the old testament who prophesized, who spoke the word of the Lord........ [2 Kings 22:14 KJV] "So Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam, and Achbor, and Shaphan, and Asahiah, went unto Huldah the prophetess, the wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah, the son of Harhas, keeper of the wardrobe; (now she dwelt in Jerusalem in the college;) and they communed with her."
[2 Kings 22:15 KJV] "And she said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Tell the man that sent you to me,"
[2 Kings 22:16 KJV] "Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof, [even] all the words of the book which the king of Judah hath read:"

There was a prophetess during the earthly ministry of Christ amid the twelve apostles......[Luke 2:36 KJV] "And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity;"
[Luke 2:37 KJV] "And she [was] a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served [God] with fastings and prayers night and day."

The Corinthian church was a mixture of the little flock believing remnant and the body of Christ. The little flock may be the ones under consideration here. The little flock did not have to abandon the law and were influenced by their traditions. This determination of mine can be supported by this verse.........[1 Corinthians 10:1 KJV] "Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;"........Paul was Jewish and identifies himself with the "fathers" which is restricted to the Jews only. He could very well be dealing with Jewish situations including head coverings.

[1 Corinthians 11:16 KJV] "But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.".......I think Paul may have been addressing concerns from the little flock over head coverings, but Paul was saying that in the body of Christ, they had no such customs. Paul never said that he was discussing women prophesying in the church, the body of Christ.

[1 Timothy 3:1 KJV] "This [is] a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.".........a bishop is an overseer, an elder, in the church. We would call them pastors. A women can't meet the qualifications set out in scripture to be a bishop.

[1 Timothy 3:2 KJV] "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;"
[Titus 1:5 KJV] "For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:"
[Titus 1:6 KJV] "If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.".........In both Timothy and Titus, a bishop must be a husband. A women can't be a husband and therefore is disqualified from holding that office.

[1 Timothy 3:4 KJV] "One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;"
[1 Timothy 3:5 KJV] "(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)".........Both of these verses say a bishop has to be one who rules HIS own house well. They both place this obligation on men NOT women. This passage also asks "how shall HE take care of the church of God?" which limits that office to men. 

[1 Timothy 3:6 KJV] "Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.".........This restricts a bishop as being a man who is a novice, new to the faith.

[1 Timothy 3:7 KJV] "Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.".......... HE must have a good report, lest HE fall into reproach: there is no accommodation for women.

[Titus 1:9 KJV] "Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers."..........HE must hold fast the Word, not he and she, not she. There are strictly confined parameters of who can be a bishop and there are no exemptions or provisions for a woman to occupy the office of a bishop in the church.

[1 Timothy 2:12 KJV] "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."..........If a woman claims the office of a bishop she would be usurping the authority God gave to men to occupy that office. God determines how he sets the church in order. Not placing women in the role of a bishop is not a slight toward women. God sets responsibilities and our roles as he sees fit. A women has a function in the church that was only prescribed for her to fulfill.

[1 Corinthians 14:34 KJV] "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.".........Women are to keep silence in churches. This verse is saying Women are not to speak in tongues.

[1 Corinthians 12:28 KJV] "And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues."........This verse says God has set SOME in the church, not ALL, to speak in tongues.

In the following verses only men speak in tongues. There is no verse that attributes speaking in tongues or permits women to speak in tongues..........[1 Corinthians 14:4 KJV] "He that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church."
[1 Corinthians 14:5 KJV] "I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater [is] he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying."
[1 Corinthians 14:13 KJV] "Wherefore let him that speaketh in an [unknown] tongue pray that he may interpret."
[1 Corinthians 14:27 KJV] "If any man speak in an [unknown] tongue, [let it be] by two, or at the most [by] three, and [that] by course; and let one interpret."