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Politics / Re: Current Events
« Last post by patrick jane on August 20, 2019, 11:53:39 pm »
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Politics / Re: Trump 2020 - Winning !!!
« Last post by patrick jane on August 20, 2019, 10:52:21 pm »









08/20/19













Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
13h
Thank you Mike!
Quote Tweet

Vice President Mike Pence
@VP
 · Aug 19
President @realDonaldTrump has been delivering on his promises to the American people since day one. From the historic tax cuts to rolling back red tape to unleashing American energy, our Administration is working hard for Americans all across the country!
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Vice President Mike Pence
@VP
·
Aug 19
Since election day, businesses large and small have created more than 6.2 MILLION jobs and the unemployment rate is at a 50-year low! The forgotten men and women of America are forgotten no more!
Image
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Donald J. Trump Retweeted

The White House
@WhiteHouse
·
Aug 19
"Foreign individuals should not be allowed to come to America in order to take advantage of its welfare programs⁠," the Washington Examiner editorial board writes.

"This shouldn't be a controversial statement."

Today's stories: http://45.wh.gov/8V3xFi
Image

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
13h
Two incredible people. I can’t believe they’re not working (few work harder)!
Quote Tweet

Ivanka Trump
@IvankaTrump
 · Aug 19
The sun has set on an incredible weekend. 🧡
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Donald J. Trump Retweeted

The White House
@WhiteHouse
·
Aug 19
Wall construction is underway near Otay Mesa, California! 👷
0:11

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
14h
The Fake and Corrupt Media is sooo bad for our Country, The Enemy of the People!
Quote Tweet

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
 · Aug 19
Massive overflow crowds in New Hampshire last week. Couldn’t get into packed SNHU Arena. Fake and Corrupt News would like you to believe otherwise. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
0:12
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
Aug 19
THANK YOU! #MAGA
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Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Vice President Mike Pence
@VP
·
Aug 19
The average household has seen their income go up by more than $5,000, wages are rising at their fastest pace in an almost decade—and, most important, they’re rising fastest for our blue-collar workers. Our economy is thriving and Americans are winning! 🇺🇸






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Politics / Re: Politics Today
« Last post by patrick jane on August 20, 2019, 10:52:09 pm »









08/20/19













Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
13h
Thank you Mike!
Quote Tweet

Vice President Mike Pence
@VP
 · Aug 19
President @realDonaldTrump has been delivering on his promises to the American people since day one. From the historic tax cuts to rolling back red tape to unleashing American energy, our Administration is working hard for Americans all across the country!
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Vice President Mike Pence
@VP
·
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Since election day, businesses large and small have created more than 6.2 MILLION jobs and the unemployment rate is at a 50-year low! The forgotten men and women of America are forgotten no more!
Image
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The White House
@WhiteHouse
·
Aug 19
"Foreign individuals should not be allowed to come to America in order to take advantage of its welfare programs⁠," the Washington Examiner editorial board writes.

"This shouldn't be a controversial statement."

Today's stories: http://45.wh.gov/8V3xFi
Image

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
13h
Two incredible people. I can’t believe they’re not working (few work harder)!
Quote Tweet

Ivanka Trump
@IvankaTrump
 · Aug 19
The sun has set on an incredible weekend. 🧡
Image
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

The White House
@WhiteHouse
·
Aug 19
Wall construction is underway near Otay Mesa, California! 👷
0:11

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
14h
The Fake and Corrupt Media is sooo bad for our Country, The Enemy of the People!
Quote Tweet

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
 · Aug 19
Massive overflow crowds in New Hampshire last week. Couldn’t get into packed SNHU Arena. Fake and Corrupt News would like you to believe otherwise. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
0:12
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
Aug 19
THANK YOU! #MAGA
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Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Vice President Mike Pence
@VP
·
Aug 19
The average household has seen their income go up by more than $5,000, wages are rising at their fastest pace in an almost decade—and, most important, they’re rising fastest for our blue-collar workers. Our economy is thriving and Americans are winning! 🇺🇸






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General Discussion / Re: Trump 2020 - Winning !!!
« Last post by patrick jane on August 20, 2019, 10:51:34 pm »









08/20/19













Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
13h
Thank you Mike!
Quote Tweet

Vice President Mike Pence
@VP
 · Aug 19
President @realDonaldTrump has been delivering on his promises to the American people since day one. From the historic tax cuts to rolling back red tape to unleashing American energy, our Administration is working hard for Americans all across the country!
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Vice President Mike Pence
@VP
·
Aug 19
Since election day, businesses large and small have created more than 6.2 MILLION jobs and the unemployment rate is at a 50-year low! The forgotten men and women of America are forgotten no more!
Image
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Donald J. Trump Retweeted

The White House
@WhiteHouse
·
Aug 19
"Foreign individuals should not be allowed to come to America in order to take advantage of its welfare programs⁠," the Washington Examiner editorial board writes.

"This shouldn't be a controversial statement."

Today's stories: http://45.wh.gov/8V3xFi
Image

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
13h
Two incredible people. I can’t believe they’re not working (few work harder)!
Quote Tweet

Ivanka Trump
@IvankaTrump
 · Aug 19
The sun has set on an incredible weekend. 🧡
Image
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

The White House
@WhiteHouse
·
Aug 19
Wall construction is underway near Otay Mesa, California! 👷
0:11

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
14h
The Fake and Corrupt Media is sooo bad for our Country, The Enemy of the People!
Quote Tweet

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
 · Aug 19
Massive overflow crowds in New Hampshire last week. Couldn’t get into packed SNHU Arena. Fake and Corrupt News would like you to believe otherwise. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
0:12
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
Aug 19
THANK YOU! #MAGA
Image
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Vice President Mike Pence
@VP
·
Aug 19
The average household has seen their income go up by more than $5,000, wages are rising at their fastest pace in an almost decade—and, most important, they’re rising fastest for our blue-collar workers. Our economy is thriving and Americans are winning! 🇺🇸






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General Discussion / Re: Politics Today
« Last post by patrick jane on August 20, 2019, 10:51:12 pm »









08/20/19













Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
13h
Thank you Mike!
Quote Tweet

Vice President Mike Pence
@VP
 · Aug 19
President @realDonaldTrump has been delivering on his promises to the American people since day one. From the historic tax cuts to rolling back red tape to unleashing American energy, our Administration is working hard for Americans all across the country!
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Vice President Mike Pence
@VP
·
Aug 19
Since election day, businesses large and small have created more than 6.2 MILLION jobs and the unemployment rate is at a 50-year low! The forgotten men and women of America are forgotten no more!
Image
Image
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

The White House
@WhiteHouse
·
Aug 19
"Foreign individuals should not be allowed to come to America in order to take advantage of its welfare programs⁠," the Washington Examiner editorial board writes.

"This shouldn't be a controversial statement."

Today's stories: http://45.wh.gov/8V3xFi
Image

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
13h
Two incredible people. I can’t believe they’re not working (few work harder)!
Quote Tweet

Ivanka Trump
@IvankaTrump
 · Aug 19
The sun has set on an incredible weekend. 🧡
Image
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

The White House
@WhiteHouse
·
Aug 19
Wall construction is underway near Otay Mesa, California! 👷
0:11

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
14h
The Fake and Corrupt Media is sooo bad for our Country, The Enemy of the People!
Quote Tweet

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
 · Aug 19
Massive overflow crowds in New Hampshire last week. Couldn’t get into packed SNHU Arena. Fake and Corrupt News would like you to believe otherwise. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
0:12
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
Aug 19
THANK YOU! #MAGA
Image
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Vice President Mike Pence
@VP
·
Aug 19
The average household has seen their income go up by more than $5,000, wages are rising at their fastest pace in an almost decade—and, most important, they’re rising fastest for our blue-collar workers. Our economy is thriving and Americans are winning! 🇺🇸






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Christian Theology / Re: Hell's Population Clock
« Last post by Olde Tymer on August 20, 2019, 09:39:13 am »
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Years ago when I underwent recruit training in the US Army, we were processed in alphabetical order; consequently I was at the back of the line for just about everything except chow because my last name begins with W --very few guys' names began with X, Y, or Z.

If perchance the great white throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 is scheduled to be done in alphabetical order, it would quite possibly be centuries before my turn came to face the music were I among those in line to be called forward.

Let's say, for example, that the pop clock update below represents one hour in court per person. No doubt that's an extremely conservative amount of time allotted to evaluate every little detail in peoples' lives but we're just being hypothetical here so it doesn't matter.

Well; 20,102,280 hours equals 837,595 days of twenty-fours hours each; which adds up to 2,295 years if the great white throne event is scheduled to run non-stop, day and night, 24/7


POP CLOCK UPDATE: 330 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the figures in post #1 are in the ball park, then something like 20,102,280 new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of hades since Sept 24, 2018.
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Christian Theology / Re: A Journey Thru Genesis
« Last post by Olde Tymer on August 20, 2019, 08:13:04 am »
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● Gen 37:29-30 . .When Reuben returned to the pit and saw that Joseph was not in the pit, he rent his clothes. Returning to his brothers, he said: The boy is gone! Now, what am I to do?

Precisely where, and why, Reuben wasn't present when his brothers sold Joseph isn't stated.

Reuben wasn't privy to his brothers' scheme to sell Joseph so he innocently "informs" them of their kid brother's disappearance. Imagine his dismay to discover that they, of all people, sold their own blood kin into slavery! How in blazes is he supposed to explain that to his dad!?!

Reuben is so disturbed that he can't think straight; so his brothers, in their characteristic cold, calculating way, devise yet another nefarious scheme. They will stain Joseph's ornamental garment with blood and let their dad draw his own conclusions about it.

● Gen 37:31-32 . .Then they took Joseph's tunic, slaughtered a kid, and dipped the tunic in the blood. They had the ornamented tunic taken to their father, and they said: We found this. Please examine it; is it your son's tunic or not?

So without any explanation, nor details of the circumstances leading up to Joseph's disappearance, they let Jacob jump to his own conclusion. That is a very, very common, and very, very human way of perpetrating a lie.

● Gen 37:33-34 . . He recognized it, and said: My son's tunic! A savage beast devoured him! Joseph was torn by a beast! Jacob rent his clothes, put sackcloth on his loins, and mourned for his son many days.

This is the very first mention of sackcloth in the Bible. It's a rough, coarse material like burlap commonly used for packaging grain in bags. Though an inexpensive fabric, it's prickly and chafes the skin so it's not really suitable for undergarments. Exactly where Jacob got the idea to abuse himself like that is unknown; but it's common in the Old Testament: mostly donned as an outer garment rather than under.

If Joseph was "torn" then why was his tunic still in one piece? It's not uncommon for carnivorous beasts like grizzly bears to devour a portion of people's clothing right along with their flesh.

Well . . poor Jacob is so overcome with grief over the loss of his favorite son that his logic chip just simply overheated and crashed. People who are gravely upset sometimes have trouble finding their car keys even if they're right inside their own pants pocket.

● Gen 37:35a . . All his sons and daughters sought to comfort him

"sons and daughters" is somewhat ambiguous and can indicate not just Jacob's progeny, but every man, woman, and child in the whole family regardless of age with himself the paterfamilias of the whole bunch.

● Gen 37:35b . . but he refused to be comforted, saying: No, I will go down to the grave mourning for my son.

The Hebrew word translated "grave" is sheol (sheh-ole') and this is its first appearance in the Bible.

Sheol is sometimes translated grave, sometimes hell, sometimes netherworld (a.k.a. the world of the dead; viz: the afterlife) and sometimes not translated at all but left as-is in Hebrew; presumably to avoid controversy.

The New Testament equivalent of sheol is haides (hah'-dace) which is an afterlife place where all the dead go, both the good dead and the bad dead, and the young and the old regardless of age, race, religion, and/or gender.

The prophet Jonah went to sheol at some time during his nautical adventure (Jonah 2:2) a place that he described as the roots of the mountains (Jonah 2:6a). Well; the mountains aren't rooted in the tummies of fish; they're rooted down deep in the earth (Jonah 2:6b).

According to Ps 16:8-10 and Acts 2:22-31, Christ spent some time in sheol/haides while waiting for his body to be restored to life.

According to Matt 12:40, sheol/haides is in the heart of the earth. Well; Christ wasn't buried in the heart of the earth; he was buried on the surface in a rock-hewn tomb. So in order for Christ to be on the surface of the earth and simultaneously in the heart of the earth, he and his body had to part company.

● Gen 37:35c . .Thus his father bewailed him.

Sometimes it's really best to leave people alone and let them grieve through their loss. Many a well-meaning "comforter" has only succeeded in making matters worse by attempting to talk friends out of their grief with good-intentioned, but nevertheless; tiresome philosophical platitudes.

And people who stifle their grief are only forestalling the inevitable. One day, possibly when they least expect it, and quite possibly inconveniently, it will catch up to them.

● Gen 37:36 . .The Midianites, meanwhile, sold him in Egypt to Potiphar, a courtier of Pharaoh, and his chief steward.

Although slavery normally isn't regarded a blessing, in this case Joseph couldn't have been sold into a better situation. Potiphar was well-connected instead of just another plantation owner who would work Joseph to the bone; undernourished, inadequately housed, and poorly clothed.

Courtiers were typically royalty's personal assistants and performed a variety of duties. Potiphar was "chief steward". The Hebrew words means boss of the butchers; an ambiguous term which implies not just slaughtering and/or cooking animals for food, but also supervising capital punishments, and/or supervising Pharaoh's personal bodyguards along with the oversight of his own private jails; especially jails for political prisoners.
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Christian Theology / Re: Christ's Ways
« Last post by Olde Tymer on August 20, 2019, 08:00:46 am »
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Eph 6:7-8 . . Slaves, serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving The Lord instead of men.

If believers wish to hear The Lord say "Well done thou good and faithful servant" then fighting with management is simply out of the question. No, don't fight, instead: bite the bullet.

"For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake." (Phil 1:29)

"Servants, be submissive to your masters with all fear, not only to the good and gentle, but also to the harsh. For this is commendable, if because of conscience toward God one endures grief, suffering wrongfully. For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently?

. . . But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God. For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps: Who committed no sin, nor was deceit found in His mouth; who, when He was reviled, did not reciprocate; when He suffered, He did not threaten, but committed Himself to Him who judges righteously." (1Pet 2:18-24)

Now there's a good, practical application of turning the other cheek.
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II Timothy 2:15 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.



There is actually so much in this verse even without all the context but saying that I am NOT suggesting leaving out context.  What I am most interested in in this discussion is how we can study in such a way as to ensure we are rightly dividing the word of truth....what are your thoughts.  We have tons of different interpretations and ideas of what scripture is saying and all of us can claim to be right or spirit taught, those are easy claims to make....but how do we ensure that we are rightly dividing the word?  What is the process, or key to being right in our understanding?
I've learned over the last sixty years after going to so many different churches that there's a difference between what I would call head knowledge and heart knowledge. While going to those different churches, I could answer questions exactly as I was taught yet I knew that I couldn't be truly spiritually fulfilled until I started learning with my heart.

I've found it helpful to pray about something that I don't understand, maybe a scripture or a certain doctrine. I pray for understanding. God has different ways to answer a prayer for understanding. He can use a person, a situation, an experience or He will bring understanding to our hearts and minds through the Holy Spirit.

I had a very profound experience when I was about four or five years old. I was in a church and there was a large picture of Jesus in front of the pulpit. I asked this woman a question about the picture and what she said to me...well, you could have knocked me over with a feather. Because at that age I hadn't read the bible, had no understanding of scripture or doctrines. It was what I knew about God in my heart. It has stayed with me all these years. It was very important to me and definitely made a lasting impression. Let's just say that maybe this woman needed to have given more thought to my question before she answered.

I've had experiences that have helped me to come to know God better and even helped me to understand some scriptures that I struggled with for years.
I won't go into all that but some of those experiences were very profound and made me think about some things that I didn't understand and needed answers to.

That being said, I'm continually learning and seeking answers and understanding. God is patient and loving like a good Father.

 ◄ Proverbs 3 ►

1My son, do not forget my law,
But let your heart keep my commands;
2For length of days and long life
And peace they will add to you.

3Let not mercy and truth forsake you;
Bind them around your neck,
Write them on the tablet of your heart,
4And so find favor and high esteem
In the sight of God and man.

5Trust in the LORD with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
6In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He shall direct your paths.

Deut. 11:18 And ye shall store these words in your heart and in your soul, and ye shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and it shall be fixed before your eyes.
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Politics / Re: Trump 2020 - Winning !!!
« Last post by patrick jane on August 19, 2019, 06:37:36 pm »









08/19/19













Donald J. Trump Retweeted

The White House
@WhiteHouse
·
Aug 17
Thanks to President
@realDonaldTrump
, we're the first country with comprehensive legislation on women's leadership in political and civic life. 🇺🇸 http://45.wh.gov/Cj5yuP
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
Aug 17
Thank you to
@SaraCarterDC
. A great and legitimate reporter, as opposed to those at the Failing New York Times!
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Sara A. Carter
@SaraCarterDC
 · Aug 17
.@nytimes Executive Editor Outlines Plans to Shift Trump Coverage from #Russia to Race http://bit.ly/33HKUFl via @BreitbartNews
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Maria Bartiromo
@MariaBartiromo
·
Aug 17
The Justice Department must investigate Glenn Simpson, the head of opposition-research firm Fusion GPS, writes
@KimStrassel
 tomorrow ⁦
@SundayFutures
⁩ ⁦
@FoxNews
⁩ 10am live ⁦
@LindseyGrahamSC
⁩ ⁦
@jsolomonReports


Opinion | Fusion, the ‘Collusion’ Puppeteer
Bruce Ohr’s 302s, just released to the public, show Glenn Simpson pulling the strings.
wsj.com
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Team Trump
@TeamTrump
·
Aug 17
MUST WATCH:

Massive overflow crowd outside of
@realDonaldTrump
's rally in New Hampshire chants "Four More Years!" & "USA!" while watching the president speak.

For the HATERS, "overflow" is the area outside a packed arena where people who can't get in can watch on screens!
0:37
Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Team Trump
@TeamTrump
·
Aug 17
From Daily Mail:

NH fire marshal:
@realDonaldTrump
 DID smash Elton John’s arena attendance record
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
Aug 17
Major consideration is being given to naming ANTIFA an “ORGANIZATION OF TERROR.” Portland is being watched very closely. Hopefully the Mayor will be able to properly do his job!
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Dan Scavino
@DanScavino
·
Aug 17
Soooo much love in Ocean City, Maryland! ThankU! #KAG2020🇺🇸
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
Aug 16
Biggest crowd EVER, according to Arena people. Thousands outside trying to get in. Place was packed! Radical Left Dems & their Partner, LameStream Media, saying Arena empty. Check out pictures. Fake News. The Enemy of the People!
Quote Tweet

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
 · Aug 15
Great news! Tonight, we broke the all-time attendance record previously held by Elton John at #SNHUArena in Manchester, New Hampshire! https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1162175486560280577






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August 20, 2019, 11:53:39 pm

Trump 2020 - Winning !!! by patrick jane
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