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The Trinity: 2.0
« on: March 13, 2020, 12:35:57 am »
As always I urge you not believe a think I say but be a good Berean and find out for yourself in Acts 17:11......For GOD in Pro 25:2..(KJV).."It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter."

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 Throughout history, there has been a movement within churches and denominations that deny the GodHead as a Trinity (all the essence in one GOD and three in person). Although the Bible does not have the word "trinity" within it pages, it does through scripture tell us the 'Father', 'Son' and 'Holy Spirit' are one GOD numerous times!

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Gen 1:1). One GOD (plural in form--'Elohiym ) or Gods ('Elohiym ) appears with singular verb form ('Created') .

'Elohiym appears 680 times throughout the Bible as a plural form. Notice the plural pronouns ("us"; "our") that are accompanying the follow scritpures.

Gen 1:26.."And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:.."
Gen 3:22 .."And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,.."
Gen 11:7 .."Go to, let us go down,..."
Isa 6:8.. "Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?"

The plurality of GOD is spelled out for everyone to see in the New Testament.

Mat 28:19.."Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

Cor 13:14.."The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen"

 John 14:17.."Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."
 

Exchanges among the GodHead.


Gen 3:22.."And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,.."
Gen 11:7.."Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language,..."
Isa 6:8.."Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?.."
Isa 48:12.."Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last."
Isa 48:13.."Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together."
Isa 48:16.."... I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me."
Ps 2:7.."I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee."
Ps 45:7.."Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows."
ps 110:1.."....The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."
Mat 11:27.."All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him."
John 8:42.."Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me."
Joh 17:24.."Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world."

In the Old Testament we see the singularity of GOD:

Deu 6:4 .."Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:..."  and
Exo 20:2..."I am the LORD thy God,"  is declared yet, the Hebrew plural form of "'elohiym" is present in all. 

We see the Monotheism (belief of a singular GOD) in these scriptures.


Deu 30:16.."In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God,..."
Rom 3:30.."Seeing it is one God,...".
John 6:27.."....which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed."
John 20:28.."And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."
Rom 9:5.."Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."
2 Peter 1:1.."....through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:"
Acts 5:3-5.."....why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, .....v4. ....thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. v5.And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: ......"
 John 1:16-17 .."And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. v7.For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

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In the following scriptures are various events that will show  the Trinity in work. These are by no means an exhaustive catalog of all the scriptures but rather a few to help in the search for truth.(1)


                                     Creation of the Universe

Father : Psalm 102:25.."Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands."

Son: Col 1:14,16.."In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:  v16..For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"

Son: John 1:1-3.."In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. v2..The same was in the beginning with God. v3..All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

Holy Spirit: Gen 1:2.."And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

Holy Spirit: Job 26:13.."By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent"

Father, Son, The Holy Spirit:  Gen 1:1.."In the beginning God ('elohiym ) created the heaven and the earth." (emphasis added)

                                            Creation Of Man

Father: Gen 2:7 .."And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Son: Col 1:16.."For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"

Spirit: Job 33:4.."The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life."

Plurals: Ecc 12:1.."Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, while the evil days come not, nor the years draw nigh, when thou shalt say, I have no pleasure in them;"

Plurals: Isa 54:5.."For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his        name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called."

                                                I AM

"I Am" is used 742 times in the Authorized King James Edition. These two words inform us actually who GOD is.....In the early days of the Exodus, God meet Moses at the burning bush on Mt. Sinai. In Exo 3:14, we find one of the names of GOD is "I AM"....Then in later scripture, John 8:58, Jesus tells us He is "I AM"


Exo 3:14.."And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."

John 8:58.."Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."


                                             The Incarnation

Father: Hebrews 10:5.."Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:"

Son: Phil 2:7.."But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:"

Spirit:  Luke 1:35.."And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God."

                                          The Death of Christ

Father:  Psalm 22:15,,"My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death."

Father: Romans 8:32.."He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?"

Father: John 10:18.."No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."

Son: (John 10,18), Galations 2:20.."I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."

Spirit: Hebrews 9:14.."How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?"

                                 The Resurrection of Christ

Father: Acts 2:24.."Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it."

Father: Romans 6:4.." Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."

Son: John 10:17-18.."Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.  v18..No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."

Son: John 2:19.."Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."

Holy Spirit: 1 Peter 3;18.."For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:"
 
Holy Spirit: Romans 8:11.."But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."

                                The Resurrection of All Mankind

Father: John 5:21.."For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will."

Son: John 5:21.."For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will."

Holy Spirit: Romans 8:11.."But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."


                               The Inspiration of the Scriptures

Father: 2 Timothy 3:16.."All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

Son: 1 Peter 1:10-11.."Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:"

Spirit: 2 Peter 1:21.."For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."

                                      Doubting Thomas   
                                       
After the resurrection of Jesus, Thomas did not believe it would be his Jesus. In the Gospel of John we find in chapter 20, that Jesus puts the doubts of Thomas to rest. In the end, Thomas calls Jesus.."My Lord and my God". There is little doubt here as to who Jesus is for Thomas would have been committing Idolatry if this was NOT the GOD who said in Exo 20:3.."Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

John 20:26.."And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you." 

John 20:27.."Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing."

 John 20:28.."And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." Here Thomas call Jesus, his Lord and GOD! Jesus is GOD.



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In Asaph’s Psalm 2, there is a dialog between the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, the Trinity


                                             1st Paragraph

Psa 2:1 ..Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

Psa 2:2 ..The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

Psa 2:3..Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.



* Speaking is either God (the Father) who is speaking in the third person or the Holy Spirit *


                                                  2nd Paragraph

Psa 2:4 ..He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Psa 2:5 ..Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Psa 2:6 .. Yet have I set my king (Jesus Christ) upon my holy hill of Zion.      (emphasis added)



           *The one speaking here is Jesus Christ as seen in Psa 2:6.

                 

                                               3rd Paragraph

Psa 2:7 ..I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. (Jesus Christ is speaking here)
Psa 2:8..Ask of me,(God the Father speaking here) and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. (emphasis added)

 Psa 2:9 ..Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.



*Speaking here is Jesus Christ and God (the Father)..as we see in Psa 2: 7-8 *



                                                 4th Paragraph

Psa 2:10 ..Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

Psa 2:11 ..Serve the LORD (God, the Father) with fear, and rejoice with trembling.  (emphasis added)

Psa 2:12..Kiss the Son (Jesus Christ) , lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. (emphasis added)



*The one speaking here is the Holy Spirit…..as seen both are spoken of in Psa 2:11-12*



                                                    Commentary:

Psalm 2 not only shows the Trinity having a conversation between themselves but Psalm 2 brings forth:

1. a prophecy about the Battle of Armageddon that will come at the time of the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ!

2. shows the infinite awesome absolute power and sovereignty of GOD!

3. the mystery of Grace through Jesus Christ!    (from the OT)



                                                 1st Paragraph

In Psa 2:1,,,the people of the earth are rising up against GOD...We see that GOD upon high is seeing this as it is happening in the distant future.  Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?   A vain thing?   Yes, GOD is looking at the stupidity and arrogance of thinking that they can challenge HIM in battle when all HE had to do in creating the earth and all it’s inhabitants was speak “Let there BE”.

I find it incomprehensible that man would consider such a move, even with the backing of Satan. Yet, It was tried before when the Tower of Babel was being built. The main theme at that time was to overtake GOD’s place in Heaven. At this time, God uses the same words He used here in Psa 2:3..”LET US” confound the single language of the day into 70 different languages and spread the people over the earth.

The Battle of Armageddon is shown to us in Rev 19 and is at the very least a grand failure on the part of mankind.  With the WORD of GOD (Jesus Christ) riding a white Horse, A spoken word is all that will be needed to end this charade.


                                              2nd Paragraph

We actually find God is laughing at those who would contemplate such a thing.  (Psa 2:4-5.) His Wrath will consume all of them. Yet, He sends His KING (Jesus Christ) to sit upon the throne of David on the Holy hill of Zion. This last verse also speaks to the very physical 1000 years as HE said “I set my king (Jesus Christ) upon my holy hill of Zion.” This is not a spiritual event


                                              3rd Paragraph

We find Jesus Christ speaking about what His father has said to him in verse 7 and GOD (the Father) telling Jesus, “Ask of me”  and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. God (the father) continues to instruct Jesus to rule (the millennium) with an iron rod in Psa 2:8


                                              4th Paragraph

Here we find the Holy Spirit asking the kings of the earth to serve the Lord (God the Father) or be destroyed, then tells them and “us”  that those who put their faith in HIM (the Son, Jesus Christ) will be blessed.  As we can see here in the OT, in a Psalm of Asaph, the mystery of GRACE through Jesus Christ is alive and well.

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*The Authorized King James Edition (1611, 1769) was used exclusively as other versions are somewhat different depending upon the year of their printing.

*All verses in the Bible are: “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:” (2 Tim 3:16)  (Note: we have placed all scripture in RED for your convenience)

*Thus God is considered the author of all 66 books through 40 writers including those Words of Psalm 2.


 **We welcome your comments and questions..Please keep them precise and clean.


 1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"


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Sources:

1.  Authorized King James Edition, Old and New Testaments

2..  Koinonia House: One God or Three?  The Trinity: Chuck Missler

3.  Ligonier Ministries, R. C. Sproul

4.  Grace to You, John MacArthur



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Posted by Bladerunner at 9:22 PM      @http://justifiedends.blogspot.com
« Last Edit: April 03, 2020, 07:43:07 pm by Bladerunner »
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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