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How long were Adam and Eve in Eden: Comment
« on: October 08, 2018, 12:25:35 am »
How Long did Adam and Eve Stay in Eden

 *Satan was a Murderer from the Beginning.  This is what Jesus tells us in John 8:14. When Satan deceived EVE, his lie not only killed Adam and Eve but he also killed us all. (all of their descendents). A murderer from the Beginning without a doubt. (1)

*We know that at Seith's birth Adam was 130 years old.(2)

*After the murder of Abel by Cain, we find the Population of the world was very significant as there were people throughout the region including east of the Euphrates River (NOD)
 
(1) Cain was afraid others would kill Him.
 
(2) He took a wife from the land of NOD East of EDEN.

To produce a substantial population that would allow this number of population in other parts of the world (NOD) in only 130 years;  the first Reproductive cycle of Eve could not have been missed. The first child of Adam and Eve (Cain) had to be close to the Fall as there was no birth's during their time in Eden.

After Adam and Eve were created, God told them to go forth and multiply. (Gen 1:28). Since their bodies would have been perfect condition and they would have "in tune" with each other, Eve would have been able to conceive within the first reproductive cycle.

Keep in mind, there was NO conception prior to the fall as we are told in Gen 4:1 (after the Fall)  Eve conceived Cain.

IF we consider the Female reproductive cycle was the same in Eden as it is now and has been for centuries after the fall, it would place her first cycle beginning within two weeks to a month after her creation.

IF we consider that the Beginning of Creation started on Tishrei 1 ( the Jewish New Year) and (3),

IF the "Wedding Chamber" (a type of the ancient Jewish Wedding ceremony)  leaves the groom and bride in the wedding chamber for seven days; They (the Groom and Bride) were left alone for those seven days. This seven days takes us through the 13th day and God would have talked to them on the 14th day since creation.(4)

Then GOD gave Adam and Eve sacrificed animal skins (Gen 3:21) on the 14th day. A future Day (the 14th day of the FIRST month) that will become passover, sacrifice of the Lamb.(5)

This same 14th day God removed them from Eden. The days Adam and Eve were in Eden in my opinion would have be eight days at the most. The seventh day of Creation was for rest. The Wedding Chamber typology (6) would have been started on the first day of the week or Saturday evening ending on Saturday evening. God would have talked with them on the first day of the week 14th day since the beginning of creation, Sunday.

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(1) Truth: in defense of the PRe-Trib Rapture, page 98
(2) Genesis 5:3
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(6)  (Genesis 29:21-23, 27-28) for the seven days of the huppah
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Re: How long was Adam and Eve in Eden
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2018, 02:10:04 am »
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Satan was a Murderer from the Beginning.  This is what Jesus tells us in John 8:14.
No, in John 8:44 he calls the devil a murderer, not Satan. Also the doctrine of original sin fails of the presumption of innocence.
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Re: How long was Adam and Eve in Eden
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2018, 02:22:35 am »
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Satan was a Murderer from the Beginning.  This is what Jesus tells us in John 8:14.
No, in John 8:44 he calls the devil a murderer, not Satan. Also the doctrine of original sin fails of the presumption of innocence.


This is kind of a derail but I will answer.

The doctrine of original sin stands on the same principle as Levy tithing while still in Abraham's loins.


We sinned while still in Adam's loins.
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Re: How long was Adam and Eve in Eden
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2018, 07:20:37 pm »
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Satan was a Murderer from the Beginning.  This is what Jesus tells us in John 8:14.
No, in John 8:44 he calls the devil a murderer, not Satan. Also the doctrine of original sin fails of the presumption of innocence.

OK, is the devil; not Satan, prince of the air and a bunch of other names for him.

you must be one of those lawyers... There was no presumption of innocence, they were quilty and GOD judged them.

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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2018, 11:58:28 pm »
you must be one of those lawyers... There was no presumption of innocence, they were quilty and GOD judged them.

No, the presumption of innocence is implied by the requirement for witnesses for crimes worthy of death. You're just repeating Pauline doctrine.

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Re: How long was Adam and Eve in Eden
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2018, 08:21:39 pm »
you must be one of those lawyers... There was no presumption of innocence, they were quilty and GOD judged them.

No, the presumption of innocence is implied by the requirement for witnesses for crimes worthy of death. You're just repeating Pauline doctrine.

God had two witnesses. Satan and Adam. that EVE ate the fruit. It would have been her death (implied).

Since their bodies were of Light, this must have disappeared immediately after eating the fruit (also implied) for they knew they were naked.

Of course, Adam loved Eve SOooooooo much(implied) that he ate the fruit in place of doing without her. This is implied in the story.

As one older scholar once said: I certainly don't love you that much to give up my salvation. Would I lose it to save my wife. YES!

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God had two witnesses. Satan and Adam.
"God" is ambiguous, and in context Adam isn't a proper name. האדמ = the man

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Re: How long was Adam and Eve in Eden
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2018, 07:28:10 pm »
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God had two witnesses. Satan and Adam.
"God" is ambiguous, and in context Adam isn't a proper name. האדמ = the man

God ambiguous? Why do you say that?

in context Adam isn't a proper name. האדמ = the man

 ʼÂdâm, aw-dawm'; the same as H120; Adam the name of the first man, also of a place in Palestine:—Adam.

h120
אָדָם 'adam

Are you trying to convert everyone to Judaism?

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Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2018, 01:43:46 pm »
How Long did Adam and Eve Stay in Eden

 *Satan was a Murderer from the Beginning.  This is what Jesus tells us in John 8:14. When Satan deceived EVE, his lie not only killed Adam and Eve but he also killed us all. (all of their descendents). A murderer from the Beginning without a doubt. (1)

*We know that at Seith's birth Adam was 130 years old.(2)

*After the murder of Abel by Cain, we find the Population of the world was very significant as there were people throughout the region including east of the Euphrates River (NOD)
 
(1) Cain was afraid others would kill Him.
 
(2) He took a wife from the land of NOD East of EDEN.

To produce a substantial population that would allow this number of population in other parts of the world (NOD) in only 130 years;  the first Reproductive cycle of Eve could not have been missed. The first child of Adam and Eve (Cain) had to be close to the Fall as there was no birth's during their time in Eden.

After Adam and Eve were created, God told them to go forth and multiply. (Gen 1:28). Since their bodies would have been perfect condition and they would have "in tune" with each other, Eve would have been able to conceive within the first reproductive cycle.

Keep in mind, there was NO conception prior to the fall as we are told in Gen 4:1 (after the Fall)  Eve conceived Cain.

IF we consider the Female reproductive cycle was the same in Eden as it is now and has been for centuries after the fall, it would place her first cycle beginning within two weeks to a month after her creation.

IF we consider that the Beginning of Creation started on Tishrei 1 ( the Jewish New Year) and (3),

IF the "Wedding Chamber" (a type of the ancient Jewish Wedding ceremony)  leaves the groom and bride in the wedding chamber for seven days; They (the Groom and Bride) were left alone for those seven days. This seven days takes us through the 13th day and God would have talked to them on the 14th day since creation.(4)

Then GOD gave Adam and Eve sacrificed animal skins (Gen 3:21) on the 14th day. A future Day (the 14th day of the FIRST month) that will become passover, sacrifice of the Lamb.(5)

This same 14th day God removed them from Eden. The days Adam and Eve were in Eden in my opinion would have be eight days at the most. The seventh day of Creation was for rest. The Wedding Chamber typology (6) would have been started on the first day of the week or Saturday evening ending on Saturday evening. God would have talked with them on the first day of the week 14th day since the beginning of creation, Sunday.

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(1) Truth: in defense of the PRe-Trib Rapture, page 98
(2) Genesis 5:3
(3) Koinonia House, "The Feast of Trumpets"
(4) Koinonia House, "The Wedding Model".
(5) Lev 23:5
(6)  (Genesis 29:21-23, 27-28) for the seven days of the huppah

I can't argue with that timeline Blade. Very good analysis. I believe you are 100% correct.
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Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2019, 02:16:11 am »
How Long did Adam and Eve Stay in Eden

 *Satan was a Murderer from the Beginning.  This is what Jesus tells us in John 8:14. When Satan deceived EVE, his lie not only killed Adam and Eve but he also killed us all. (all of their descendents). A murderer from the Beginning without a doubt. (1)

*We know that at Seith's birth Adam was 130 years old.(2)

*After the murder of Abel by Cain, we find the Population of the world was very significant as there were people throughout the region including east of the Euphrates River (NOD)
 
(1) Cain was afraid others would kill Him.
 
(2) He took a wife from the land of NOD East of EDEN.

To produce a substantial population that would allow this number of population in other parts of the world (NOD) in only 130 years;  the first Reproductive cycle of Eve could not have been missed. The first child of Adam and Eve (Cain) had to be close to the Fall as there was no birth's during their time in Eden.

After Adam and Eve were created, God told them to go forth and multiply. (Gen 1:28). Since their bodies would have been perfect condition and they would have "in tune" with each other, Eve would have been able to conceive within the first reproductive cycle.

Keep in mind, there was NO conception prior to the fall as we are told in Gen 4:1 (after the Fall)  Eve conceived Cain.

IF we consider the Female reproductive cycle was the same in Eden as it is now and has been for centuries after the fall, it would place her first cycle beginning within two weeks to a month after her creation.

IF we consider that the Beginning of Creation started on Tishrei 1 ( the Jewish New Year) and (3),

IF the "Wedding Chamber" (a type of the ancient Jewish Wedding ceremony)  leaves the groom and bride in the wedding chamber for seven days; They (the Groom and Bride) were left alone for those seven days. This seven days takes us through the 13th day and God would have talked to them on the 14th day since creation.(4)

Then GOD gave Adam and Eve sacrificed animal skins (Gen 3:21) on the 14th day. A future Day (the 14th day of the FIRST month) that will become passover, sacrifice of the Lamb.(5)

This same 14th day God removed them from Eden. The days Adam and Eve were in Eden in my opinion would have be eight days at the most. The seventh day of Creation was for rest. The Wedding Chamber typology (6) would have been started on the first day of the week or Saturday evening ending on Saturday evening. God would have talked with them on the first day of the week 14th day since the beginning of creation, Sunday.

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(1) Truth: in defense of the PRe-Trib Rapture, page 98
(2) Genesis 5:3
(3) Koinonia House, "The Feast of Trumpets"
(4) Koinonia House, "The Wedding Model".
(5) Lev 23:5
(6)  (Genesis 29:21-23, 27-28) for the seven days of the huppah

Wow, neat analysis, love you guys here.

How long were Adam and Eve in the Garden, before and after they sinned, and their days numbered?

Well we know how long they stayed after they sinned, for that very day God kicked them out to the surrounding area of Eden. So let's see how long Adam, then Adam and Eve were in the garden before they sinned?

God created Adam first,

Genesis 2:4 This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, 5 before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.


Life in God’s Garden

8 The Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed.

We don't get lonely that fast, not when we enjoy doing what we love. Adam must have been keeping himself busy keeping the garden, all the different plants, flowers, fruit bushes and trees, I know it would keep me busy for many years! But yes, without  wildlife around gardening would eventually get boring, and this is what God noticed there was something missing in Adams life, so:

.. 18 And the Lord God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.”
19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name.


It must have taken Adam a long time to name all the animals, millions of species, but what is "time" when you live in eternity? Adam never aged through all this, it is not mentioned how old he was when he started naming the animals, nor how long it took him, (like with Noah, it documents everything.) So we can safely assume that Adam was in the Garden for many more years now with pets around!

20 So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him.

He must have enjoyed meeting all the animals God created just for him, to keep him company, and I'm sure he was surrounded by pets. A Lyon here, an Elephant there, a few monkeys to make him laugh, some parrots who he could teach to talk, beautiful pheasants etc.  but again, this is in eternity, no time is counted in eternity, the sun comes up, and the sun sets, day after day and Adam does not age.

Whatever age God created Adam at (I doubt God created him as a baby) Adam stayed that same age for many, many years, decades, centuries, even millennia, it does not say, but he must have been busy all the time, and now that he had all the animals, millions of them to keep him company, it must have taken a long time for him to get bored of them all, I know I could easily live a few todays lifetimes before I get bored of millions of exotic, funny, interesting pets, while I do my gardening, and I'm sure many here would agree!? Matter of fact, there was a survey of men and women who were asked the question: If you were stranded on an island, and if you had a choice, who would you choose to be stranded with, .. your favorite pet, or your husband/wife" An amazingly higher percentage chose the pet. But I doubt these were Believers? lol

and so we read that once again God noticed: "But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him." That he eventually got tired of changing pets, having from a few hundred at a time to just a few he really liked (I'm just going by what I would of done not knowing anything else, because there were no other humans around. I know I could live for many years, even lifetimes if I could have any animal I wanted for pets, for company. Play with them, run with them, train them etc. and this while I was gardening, growing my own food, fruit trees etc. I'm just going by what I would of done not knowing any other humans existed!?
Anyways, God seen that once again Adam got bored:

Genesis 2:21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. 22 Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.

OK, so we have Adam and Eve now, what did God tell them when He created Eve for Adam?

Genesis 1:28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

So what do you think Adam and Eve did the next, .. oh we don't know how long because passing of time is not counted in eternity, before they sinned, so I would say they did what commanded them to do: were fruitful and multiplied.
We read later on that they had tribes, villages, and maybe even cities all around Eden, that's where Cain went. They are the ones who he thought would kill him after God put a mark on him!

There was no need to mention the children in eternity, or in the Garden, what is mentioned is the first children Adam and Eve had "after the fall", outside the Garden. Eve knew God was angry at her, and probably thought God will not bless her with children again for who knows how long? God did shut the womb of many women throughout Biblical history.

Genesis 3:22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.

Genesis 4:1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the Lord.” 2 Then she bore again, this time his brother Abel.


Here is when genealogy started, not in the Garden in eternity, but when genealogy mattered, when man was dying a little bit more every day, and they knew that just as God promised, that: "this day (Gods Day within 1,000 years) you will die!" This was the beginning of the plan that was made before the creation of the world, to save mankind, so this is where history began, not in eternity in the Garden.

Where did Cain go?

Genesis 4:The Family of Cain
16 Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. 17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son—Enoch.


Here we can understand that; by the time they were kicked out of the Garden, there were cities, nations, like "the Land of Nod" mentioned here! Remember God told them to "multiply and fill the earth" and not fill just a small garden. They always had access to the whole world, only the true beauty was the Garden in Eden where the children could come and visit their parents and talk with God when He came to visit them in the cool of the day.

Of course this is how the Lord gave me understanding of it, and I am open to your, and everyone here suggestion. We have to stick to the Bible, and not to other books like the "Book of Enoch". There may have been a "Book of Enoch", but it is definitely not the one being passed around today. But that's another topic.

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Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2019, 06:34:43 pm »
How Long did Adam and Eve Stay in Eden

 *Satan was a Murderer from the Beginning.  This is what Jesus tells us in John 8:14. When Satan deceived EVE, his lie not only killed Adam and Eve but he also killed us all. (all of their descendents). A murderer from the Beginning without a doubt. (1)

*We know that at Seith's birth Adam was 130 years old.(2)

*After the murder of Abel by Cain, we find the Population of the world was very significant as there were people throughout the region including east of the Euphrates River (NOD)
 
(1) Cain was afraid others would kill Him.
 
(2) He took a wife from the land of NOD East of EDEN.

To produce a substantial population that would allow this number of population in other parts of the world (NOD) in only 130 years;  the first Reproductive cycle of Eve could not have been missed. The first child of Adam and Eve (Cain) had to be close to the Fall as there was no birth's during their time in Eden.

After Adam and Eve were created, God told them to go forth and multiply. (Gen 1:28). Since their bodies would have been perfect condition and they would have "in tune" with each other, Eve would have been able to conceive within the first reproductive cycle.

Keep in mind, there was NO conception prior to the fall as we are told in Gen 4:1 (after the Fall)  Eve conceived Cain.

IF we consider the Female reproductive cycle was the same in Eden as it is now and has been for centuries after the fall, it would place her first cycle beginning within two weeks to a month after her creation.

IF we consider that the Beginning of Creation started on Tishrei 1 ( the Jewish New Year) and (3),

IF the "Wedding Chamber" (a type of the ancient Jewish Wedding ceremony)  leaves the groom and bride in the wedding chamber for seven days; They (the Groom and Bride) were left alone for those seven days. This seven days takes us through the 13th day and God would have talked to them on the 14th day since creation.(4)

Then GOD gave Adam and Eve sacrificed animal skins (Gen 3:21) on the 14th day. A future Day (the 14th day of the FIRST month) that will become passover, sacrifice of the Lamb.(5)

This same 14th day God removed them from Eden. The days Adam and Eve were in Eden in my opinion would have be eight days at the most. The seventh day of Creation was for rest. The Wedding Chamber typology (6) would have been started on the first day of the week or Saturday evening ending on Saturday evening. God would have talked with them on the first day of the week 14th day since the beginning of creation, Sunday.

Blade


(1) Truth: in defense of the PRe-Trib Rapture, page 98
(2) Genesis 5:3
(3) Koinonia House, "The Feast of Trumpets"
(4) Koinonia House, "The Wedding Model".
(5) Lev 23:5
(6)  (Genesis 29:21-23, 27-28) for the seven days of the huppah

Wow, neat analysis, love you guys here.

How long were Adam and Eve in the Garden, before and after they sinned, and their days numbered?

Well we know how long they stayed after they sinned, for that very day God kicked them out to the surrounding area of Eden. So let's see how long Adam, then Adam and Eve were in the garden before they sinned?

God created Adam first,

Genesis 2:4 This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, 5 before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.


Life in God’s Garden

8 The Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed.

We don't get lonely that fast, not when we enjoy doing what we love. Adam must have been keeping himself busy keeping the garden, all the different plants, flowers, fruit bushes and trees, I know it would keep me busy for many years! But yes, without  wildlife around gardening would eventually get boring, and this is what God noticed there was something missing in Adams life, so:

.. 18 And the Lord God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.”
19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name.


It must have taken Adam a long time to name all the animals, millions of species, but what is "time" when you live in eternity? Adam never aged through all this, it is not mentioned how old he was when he started naming the animals, nor how long it took him, (like with Noah, it documents everything.) So we can safely assume that Adam was in the Garden for many more years now with pets around!

20 So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him.

He must have enjoyed meeting all the animals God created just for him, to keep him company, and I'm sure he was surrounded by pets. A Lyon here, an Elephant there, a few monkeys to make him laugh, some parrots who he could teach to talk, beautiful pheasants etc.  but again, this is in eternity, no time is counted in eternity, the sun comes up, and the sun sets, day after day and Adam does not age.

Whatever age God created Adam at (I doubt God created him as a baby) Adam stayed that same age for many, many years, decades, centuries, even millennia, it does not say, but he must have been busy all the time, and now that he had all the animals, millions of them to keep him company, it must have taken a long time for him to get bored of them all, I know I could easily live a few todays lifetimes before I get bored of millions of exotic, funny, interesting pets, while I do my gardening, and I'm sure many here would agree!? Matter of fact, there was a survey of men and women who were asked the question: If you were stranded on an island, and if you had a choice, who would you choose to be stranded with, .. your favorite pet, or your husband/wife" An amazingly higher percentage chose the pet. But I doubt these were Believers? lol

and so we read that once again God noticed: "But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him." That he eventually got tired of changing pets, having from a few hundred at a time to just a few he really liked (I'm just going by what I would of done not knowing anything else, because there were no other humans around. I know I could live for many years, even lifetimes if I could have any animal I wanted for pets, for company. Play with them, run with them, train them etc. and this while I was gardening, growing my own food, fruit trees etc. I'm just going by what I would of done not knowing any other humans existed!?
Anyways, God seen that once again Adam got bored:

Genesis 2:21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. 22 Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.

OK, so we have Adam and Eve now, what did God tell them when He created Eve for Adam?

Genesis 1:28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

So what do you think Adam and Eve did the next, .. oh we don't know how long because passing of time is not counted in eternity, before they sinned, so I would say they did what commanded them to do: were fruitful and multiplied.
We read later on that they had tribes, villages, and maybe even cities all around Eden, that's where Cain went. They are the ones who he thought would kill him after God put a mark on him!

There was no need to mention the children in eternity, or in the Garden, what is mentioned is the first children Adam and Eve had "after the fall", outside the Garden. Eve knew God was angry at her, and probably thought God will not bless her with children again for who knows how long? God did shut the womb of many women throughout Biblical history.

Genesis 3:22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.

Genesis 4:1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, “I have acquired a man from the Lord.” 2 Then she bore again, this time his brother Abel.


Here is when genealogy started, not in the Garden in eternity, but when genealogy mattered, when man was dying a little bit more every day, and they knew that just as God promised, that: "this day (Gods Day within 1,000 years) you will die!" This was the beginning of the plan that was made before the creation of the world, to save mankind, so this is where history began, not in eternity in the Garden.

Where did Cain go?

Genesis 4:The Family of Cain
16 Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. 17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son—Enoch.


Here we can understand that; by the time they were kicked out of the Garden, there were cities, nations, like "the Land of Nod" mentioned here! Remember God told them to "multiply and fill the earth" and not fill just a small garden. They always had access to the whole world, only the true beauty was the Garden in Eden where the children could come and visit their parents and talk with God when He came to visit them in the cool of the day.

Of course this is how the Lord gave me understanding of it, and I am open to your, and everyone here suggestion. We have to stick to the Bible, and not to other books like the "Book of Enoch". There may have been a "Book of Enoch", but it is definitely not the one being passed around today. But that's another topic.

God bless you all.

I am glad your GOD's right hand man!!!!! 

I guessm, the rest of us will just have to make do with Jesus Christ and His Gospel!

I don't think the Book of Enoch was even mentioned.    The references were list below the article... DOn't tell me you ignored it.?

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Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2019, 01:56:51 am »
How Long did Adam and Eve Stay in Eden

 *Satan was a Murderer from the Beginning.  This is what Jesus tells us in John 8:14. When Satan deceived EVE, his lie not only killed Adam and Eve but he also killed us all. (all of their descendents). A murderer from the Beginning without a doubt. (1)


I am glad your GOD's right hand man!!!!! 

I guessm, the rest of us will just have to make do with Jesus Christ and His Gospel!

I don't think the Book of Enoch was even mentioned.    The references were list below the article... DOn't tell me you ignored it.?

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Greetings Blade!

Sorry, .. I thought I was replying to an OP: "How long were Adam and Eve in Eden?"

I used the Bible to give my version, the way it was given to me to understand.
I was not debating others versions, but adding in mine, or how I understand it.

You don't agree? If you or anyone here think I misquoted something from the Bible, by all means I would love to hear it! I have heard about a dozen or more different versions on this topic, so I put mine in.

So tell me, where is Jesus Christ Gospel different than what I quoted and interpreted? I am really, truly interested to know!?

God bless you all.
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Re: How long were Adam and Eve in Eden
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2019, 09:23:48 am »
How Long did Adam and Eve Stay in Eden

 *Satan was a Murderer from the Beginning.  This is what Jesus tells us in John 8:14. When Satan deceived EVE, his lie not only killed Adam and Eve but he also killed us all. (all of their descendents). A murderer from the Beginning without a doubt. (1)


I am glad your GOD's right hand man!!!!! 

I guessm, the rest of us will just have to make do with Jesus Christ and His Gospel!

I don't think the Book of Enoch was even mentioned.    The references were list below the article... DOn't tell me you ignored it.?

Blade


Greetings Blade!

Sorry, .. I thought I was replying to an OP: "How long were Adam and Eve in Eden?"

I used the Bible to give my version, the way it was given to me to understand.
I was not debating others versions, but adding in mine, or how I understand it.

You don't agree? If you or anyone here think I misquoted something from the Bible, by all means I would love to hear it! I have heard about a dozen or more different versions on this topic, so I put mine in.

So tell me, where is Jesus Christ Gospel different than what I quoted and interpreted? I am really, truly interested to know!?

God bless you all.

I don't believe I said anything about your opinion was wrong???????

However, when you delete, add to the scripture, I have a problem because you are preaching a false doctrine. example below.

The reply to a post I made on « on: January 20, 2019,        06:34:43 pm

You said. "The Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed.

We don't get lonely that fast, not when we enjoy doing what we love. Adam must have been keeping himself busy keeping the garden, all the different plants, flowers, fruit bushes and trees, I know it would keep me busy for many years!But yes, without  wildlife around gardening would eventually get boring, and this is what God noticed there was something missing in Adams life, so:"


Now what part of the BIBLE did you not read? GEN 1:26-27 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. v27..So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."[/b]

They were created on the same day, a 24 hour day!..YET....

You said:"I used the Bible to give my version, the way it was given to me to understand."

You were taught wrong my friend. Adam was not alone no more than a few hours. See GOD's WORD as it is written in the KJV.

You said:".. 18 And the Lord God said, “It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.” ":  This is Gen 2:18, not Gen Chapter ONE and the six days of creation.

Here you conveniently left out the Chapter so as to give the impression that it was a loooooooooooooong time before Eve was made.

Again, be very careful for God tells us not to add, delete, change His WORD. Rev 22:18-19 and HE tells us what is going to happen to those that change it. DO you Believe HIM and HIS WORD?????

 He is very jealous of HIS WORD for His WORD is HE.
JOHN 1:1..

Have a good day.


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Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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