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The BIBLE balance is the judgement, we are predestined and elected to be the church, the people of God, sons, predestiny and election are not said to be unto salvation … that is what people suppose, naturally we must be saved in order to be conformed to Christ.

Oh, will Michael and Gabriel, the holy warriors of GOD, need to be saved to conform to Christ? When did they sin?

As for salvation, it is the worldly fulfillment of the promise of election to elect sinners  given pre-world...and I deny you can find one word of the constituents of predestiny and election that are not prerequisites for or fulfillments of salvation...not one.

But that says NOTHING about others who are not so chosen … they will be judged and God has promised to judge with equity.

To say nothing is to say all that is needed! They were obviously not elected so they were passed over for election. If you can't figure out what this means then I will tell you.

 If there was no reason for electing some then there was no reason for not electing others. If there was no reason of sinfulness in them so that they were passed over for election then they were innocent and if there was sinfulness in them that caused them to be passed over then there was also a reason for the election of the others, that is, they did not sin the sin that caused people to be passed over for election which is what I declare.

I can't believe that some people have been accepting this foolishness for some 500 years! Yikes! Innocents going to hell! Elect for no reason!