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Quote from: patrick jane on February 05, 2019, 10:52:29 pm

Great post Bladerunner, and I too agree with much of the Calvinist doctrine except the free will part. I also find it hard to accept that some people were born to go straight to hell and God knows it ahead of time. Why bring them into the world? I have see some good Calvinist VS Open Theist debates. Maybe we could post a good one here and comment as we watch?

No-one is predestined to go to hell, sin was not predestined. God never created man a sinner.

But God foreknew and does know and foreknow.

So foreknowing that man would sin God predestined man's redemption.

You have to ask "if God foreknew that His beautiful creature would sin and utterly wreck His creation, should He therefore resign Himself to not creating at all?"

Where would you and I be?

People never really get to grips with predestination because they shun it out of hand, predestiny is grained into every aspect of life and nature. For example the prodigal son MUST return to his father or die a starving and ignominious death because man is created with the need to renew his strength by food, this characteristic is part of predestiny.