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guest8 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2019, 08:51:57 pm »

Quote from: patrick jane on March 01, 2019, 11:02:34 am

Quote from: Ted T. on March 01, 2019, 10:57:42 am
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TED, I did not get past this phrase...You said: "cannot refer to everyone He created as there are others whom He cast out because He did NOT know them,"

It is obvious you have decide NOT to take Jesus Christ up on His GRACE Gift Package. For GOD LOVES you so much, He will abide by your free-will decision. Yes, He loves you, and he will not make you live with Him when it is evident, You do not want to. Of course there are only one choice that is the right choice.

First, I can barely navigate this site -it is just too busy and confusing.
Second, I cannot find the reply with quote feature so there is no link back link, sigh.

Third, you make a lot of assumptions about why I quoted a verse that you stated you do not understand why I quoted it... Do you often have knee jerk opposition to other's non-Calvinist approach?

So let's try something new...Put the phrase you have difficulty with in context of the verse I used to introduce the concept, Romans 8:29-30..."For whom he did foreknow... ie "cannot refer to everyone He created as there are others whom He cast out because He did NOT know them,"

the concept being that foreknown cannot refer to everyone because some HE never knew ! Matthew 7:23... It's too bad you stopped there because the rest of the essay developes of the concept.

Instead of maligning me with false accusations, will you deal with the contention I made, exegete the verse as I did and tell me how you believe I missed the mark like a good debater does?
Ted, sorry the quote feature is ABOVE the post at the top right. Most forums have them at the bottom right. I hope you get used to it here brother.

Hi Ted..mind if I step into this debate?

I see you are doubting GOD's WORD. I agree that the verses in the Bible are sometimes hard to read.

First we have Romans 8:29 that tell us HE foreknew us and then the verse you quoted: YET!

Mat 7:23..."And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

But then what is the content...Lets go back a verse or two and see.

Mat 7:21-22."Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. "

We find out that the Lord is speaking to the Jews about how to get into heaven, the good works has to be of the Father's will?

Mat 7:22...Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?"

In the Mat.7:22....many will tell Him what they have done for Him (Jesus) but is it really what He wants?

Mat 7:23... Jesus tells them He does not even know them. I ask you Ted:
'Did you did you ever know someone but because of something they have done, You did not know them? Would you be like Peter and deny you did not know them?'

God gives you a Gift and all one has to do is believe and accept Jesus Christ as You Lord and Savior. (1 Cor 15:1-4). If you turn away from GOD as you are doing, What do you REALLY expect GOD to do with you.

Luke 21:18..."But there shall not an hair of your head perish." How does He know how many hairs are on your head and if one of them has perished? In other words, He knows what you are doing, thinking, etc.

In Job 31:15 we find.."Did not he that made me in the womb make him? and did not one fashion us in the womb?"

Did Jesus make you in the Womb? Did he give you that first breath of life?

In Rom 9:12..we find God speaking to Rebecca and tell her the two babies within her Esau and Jacob..
"It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger."

How would He know that, but it really happened.

Mat 6:8.."“Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him."

In Jer 1:5, we find God already knew him....as He has said He knows you and me and everyone else!

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;[/b] (He made us, YES)
Before you were born I sanctified you;
I ordained you a prophet to the nations.”"[/color]

And you have doubts for your sins, lifestyle, worldview, etc. will not let you see the truth in front of you.

We are not discussing if GOD lied, we are discussing His omniscience or His ability to know everything.

There are some 108 prophecies from the OT that were fulfilled completely about the first coming of Jesus Christ and His death on the Cross..... Yet you say God does not know some.

Ted, GOD has the power, and foresight to see and know you before you were born. It is really up to you whether GOD in your future says to you "I never knew you" or NOT? YOUR CHOICE!

Have a good evening and please do a lot of soul searching.

This is not a game or trying to live life (here on earth) to the fullest, it is about spending an Eternity...........

In The Lake of FIRE (eternal torment)
or
Heaven (eternal bliss)

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