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Great post Bladerunner, and I too agree with much of the Calvinist doctrine except the free will part. I also find it hard to accept that some people were born to go straight to hell and God knows it ahead of time. Why bring them into the world? I have see some good Calvinist VS Open Theist debates. Maybe we could post a good one here and comment as we watch?

Thank you PJ..... Not sure about what you mean by the "FREE WILL" part.if you will expand, we can get it in another post.

 you said:"I also find it hard to accept that some people were born to go straight to hell and God knows it ahead of time."

You love Jesus do you not?        Think about it for one moment before going on.     God created everyone of us.

Keep in mind that God has foreseen everything that will happen which include his actions and what events they cause. He knows everyone who ultimately will REJECT Him...Through the Free Will of Mankind, there are those that will REJECT GOD even though they have been told the punishment for continuing in SIN.

They have chosen NOT to live with GOD here on Earth.

Thus, GOD Loves them too much to force them to live with Him for an eternity.   He loves them so much He will abide by their Free Will. 

It is a little easier to see it from the other (dark) side. 

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There is another question on everyone's mind and you asked it: "Why bring them into the world?"

If Adam died before Seith was conceived, Noah and his wife would not have been born. Their Sons and their wives would not have been born thus, the population of the earth would NOT BE!

It is a problem of Genetics. How far back into the family tree (Noah and Wife) do we got to go back to erase you and I ? This is the same for every person after Adam and Eve.

As with any family, there are skeletons (in this case, unbelievers). 
Those unbelievers though their own Free Will will still have to be born for future generations to be born.

Hope this helps.

Blade