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Did Jesus Die on a Friday?
« on: May 20, 2020, 03:02:53 pm »
As always I urge you not believe a word that is written in this thread but rather be a good Berean and find out for yourself in Acts 17:11......For GOD in Pro 25:2..(KJV).."It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter."

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                                             Did Jesus Die on Friday?


As always in each post 'Sharing God's Word' ask you to use Acts 17:11 as we can only bring to you the information of what we believe. It is up to you to search the scriptures to see if what we say is true.

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I recently had a conversation with another who had concerns over what day the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ happened. Was it on Friday or was it a Thursday Crucifixion. With the days of Friday, Saturday and Sunday being the main focal point and the thought that any part of these days would suffice as a full day, either a Friday or Thursday Crucifixion could be true.

Any time one is questioning the WORDs of GOD, one has to ask another question: Is it an attempt by Satan to spread doubt throughout the earth that the WORDs of GOD cannot be trusted? Therefore, I will through scriptures and other reputable sources 'weed out' the mistakes of a Friday or Thursday Crucifixion in favor of the truth.

Most of the Christian world agree that the Crucifixion occurred on Friday (Good Friday). Since Jesus was crucified around 3 PM. and was buried the same day, with Saturday being the second day and Sunday being the third day, the "will arise on the third day" prophecies in Matthew, Mark, Luke and Acts (1) have also been fulfilled IF 'any part of a day is used as a whole day"

Yet, a single prophecy found in Mat 12:40.."..For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."  contradicts both the Friday, Thursday Crucifixions and presents a question to all. How can three full days and nights in the grave happen if the Crucifixion happened on Friday or Thursday with the Resurrection on the following Sunday.    IT CAN NOT!

The following are a few of the scriptures found in the Bible that specify Jesus would arise 'at the third day' similar to what 1 Cor 15:4 states: "........And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" (2)

GOOD NEWS: There is evidence that "three full days and nights (Mat 12:40)" and all those scriptures that state:"He (Jesus) will arise on the third day" are BOTH RIGHT!

Here are a few definitions needed to understand how this can happen. We will then take you from the sixth day before Passover through the Resurrection Sunday. I apologize for its length but this subject demands all short cuts be removed.

*Hebrew Days were based on God's calendar of  a 360 day year.   Their days beginning in the evening at 6 PM and ending four and twenty hours later at 6 PM...the next day by our calendar.

*Our days in both the Georgian and Julian calendars begin with Sunday being the first day of the week and Saturday the end of the week. Keep in mind that the Hebrews/Jews also had a civil calendar that views the days of the week as we do now.  This particular year 32 AD(3), 14th Nisan was on Wednesday with the 15th Nisan, an extra Sabbath being on Thursday.,

*Passover is always on 14th of Nisan, the first month of Israel's religious calendar.(4).."In the fourteenth day of the first month at even (evening)  is the LORD'S passover."  (Lev 23:5)   (emphasis added)

*The Feast of Unleavened Bread (a seven day period) that always begins on 15th of Nisan. The first day of this feast is considered a Sabbath.   ."And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.,In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein."
(Lev 23:6-7)

*The Feast of First Fruits (Resurrection Sunday) - 18th of Nisan....."Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:..And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the Sabbath  (Sunday)  the priest shall wave it." (Lev 23:10-11) 
  (emphasis added)

*There are  erroneous assumptions made by many Churches and Scholars alike. The most notable is the Friday Crucifixion (Good Friday). While it is a Christian holiday commemorating Jesus' Crucifixion, it was based on : ..."And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath," (Mark 15:42)

*The Hebrew Sabbaths were on the 7th day of the week.  Saturday began Friday evening at 6 PM and ended Saturday evening at 6 PM.  There were other sabbaths in the year that would make two in one week. The Feast of Unleavened Bread is one of those....

*NOTE: : "In the end of the sabbath (error) as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre." (Mat 28:1)

 ( Emphasis Added), The error is that the KJV translators did not pick up the fact that there were two Sabbaths that week. The correct Sabbath should have been plural instead of singular.

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We find through scripture Jesus spent the Sabbath (Saturday) in Bethany at the home of Simon the leper (Mar 14:3) (5).  Bethany being 1.8 miles from Jerusalem, Jesus could not have traveled on Friday evening or Saturday as the Sabbath was upon them at 6 PM and Hebrew law prevented any travel/work on a Sabbath.

In John 12:1, we are told: "Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany,......." This sets up the date of when He actually died.

Six days before Passover, Wednesday -14th Nisan - April 9, 32 AD was:

Friday, 9th Nisan (-Sixth day), began Thursday evening 6 PM and would end Friday at 6 PM

Saturday, The weekly Sabbath, 10th Nisan, (- Fifth day),  began Friday evening 6 PM and would end Saturday at 6 PM

Sunday - 11th Nisan- Palm Sunday (-Fourth day) began Saturday Evening 6 PM and would end Sunday at 6 PM.
Jesus rode into Jerusalem this day, April 6, 32 AD. (3)

Monday- 12th Nisan (-Third Day) began Sunday evening at 6 PM ending Monday at 6PM

Tuesday - 13th Nisan (-Second day) began Monday evening at 6 PM and ended Tuesday evening at 6 PM

Wednesday -14th Nisan, Passover (Day ONE), began Tuesday evening at 6 PM and ended Wednesday at 6 PM.

*Here Jesus was crucified at around 3 pm, was removed then prepared and placed in the burial chamber shortly before the next day began at 6 PM. Thursday, the 15th of Nisan was considered a Sabbath enforcing the law that  Jesus (or any other person crucified) could not remain on the cross during this day.

And now when the even (evening)  was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath," (Mat 15:42).  (emphasis added)

Thus, Jesus began His three days and three nights in the grave on Thursday, 15th of Nisan

Thursday - Day one of the Feast of Unleavened Bread,  a Sabbath, 15th Nisan began Wednesday evening at 6 PM and ended Thursday evening at 6 PM.
(Day 1 to Resurrection Day) 

Friday - 16th Nisan began Thursday evening at 6 PM  and ended Friday evening at 6 PM. (Day 2 to Resurrection Day)

Saturday - 17th Nisan - Weekly Sabbath- began Friday evening at 6pm and ended Saturday evening at 6 PM. (Day 3 to Resurrection Day)

*Thus, we have three full days and three full nights at 6 PM. on Saturday evening fulfilling Mat 12:40.

Also according to the civil calendar, He did indeed stay in the grave for three days fulfilling numerous prophecies.

NOTE: Jesus is also telling us that He was arisen some time between Saturday 6 PM. start of a new religious day and 12 midnight, the end of the civil day, Saturday.

Here is where both of these prophecies are right.

Of course Sunday- 18th Nisan, Feast of First Fruits (Resurrection day) began  on Saturday evening at 6 PM. and ended on Sunday evening at 6 PM according to the religious customs of the Hebrew in 32 AD.

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Jesus uses many different ways to prove to us that it is HE who is the author of the Holy Bible as He states so elegantly in : Prob 25:2.."It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." Obviously this is referring to Rev 5:9-10..


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*The Authorized King James Edition (1611, 1769) was used exclusively as other versions are somewhat different depending upon the year of their printing.

*All verses in the Bible are: “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”  (Note: we have placed all scripture in RED for your convenience)

*Thus God is considered the author of all 66 books through 40 writers including those of Psalm 2.



 **We welcome your comments and questions..Please keep them precise and clean.


 1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"
                               
                                         
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Sources:

1.  All Scriptures in above article, King James Edition
2. (Mat_16:21, Mat_17:23, Mat_20:19, Mat_27:64, Mar_9:31, Mar_10:34, Luk_9:22, Luk_18:33, Luk_24:7, Luk_24:21, Luk_24:46, Act_10:40 )

3. The Coming Prince, Sir Robert Andersen
4. The Feasts of Israel - Koinonia House
5.  Luke 19:1, Mar 10:46

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                           This article was originally published in the
        5/20/2020, 'Sharing God's Word' @ Justifiedends.blogspot.com

Posted by Bladerunner at 12:43 PM           
« Last Edit: May 20, 2020, 03:10:27 pm by Bladerunner »
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Did Jesus Die on a Friday?
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2020, 06:57:11 am »
Bladerunner,

How do you reconcile a 4th day of the week crucifixion with Luke 24:21?
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Re: Did Jesus Die on a Friday?
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2020, 09:07:02 am »
Bladerunner,

How do you reconcile a 4th day of the week crucifixion with Luke 24:21?

The fourth day being Wednesday?  4 days and 3 make 7. It started on the day after the Sabbath (our Sunday) and ended on the Sunday one week later.

Is this what you are asking??

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Did Jesus Die on a Friday?
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2020, 04:56:01 pm »
Bladerunner,
re:  "The fourth day being Wednesday?"

Yes, in the U.S. the fourth day of the week is labeled Wednesday.


re:  "4 days and 3 make 7. It started on the day after the Sabbath (our Sunday) and ended on the Sunday one week later. Is this what you are asking??"

No.  You wrote "Wednesday -14th Nisan, Passover (Day ONE), began Tuesday evening at 6 PM and ended Wednesday at 6 PM.*Here Jesus was crucified at around 3 pm..."

I'm simply asking how you reconcile a Wednesday/4th day of the week crucifixion with Luke 24:21?   

BTW, He was crucified around 9 AM - not 3 PM. 

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Re: Did Jesus Die on a Friday?
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2020, 08:13:11 pm »
Bladerunner,
re:  "The fourth day being Wednesday?"

Yes, in the U.S. the fourth day of the week is labeled Wednesday.


re:  "4 days and 3 make 7. It started on the day after the Sabbath (our Sunday) and ended on the Sunday one week later. Is this what you are asking??"

No.  You wrote "Wednesday -14th Nisan, Passover (Day ONE), began Tuesday evening at 6 PM and ended Wednesday at 6 PM.*Here Jesus was crucified at around 3 pm..."

I'm simply asking how you reconcile a Wednesday/4th day of the week crucifixion with Luke 24:21?   

BTW, He was crucified around 9 AM - not 3 PM.

You are correct (Mark 15:25),,
Jesus did not die until the ninth hour or 3 pm.
Mark 15:33.."And when the sixth hour was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour."  12 to 3pm
Mark 15:34.."And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

He had to be buried before the 12th hour or 6pm when another day stated. A Sabbath. Yes,there were two sabbaths during this week.

Blade
 
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Did Jesus Die on a Friday?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2020, 06:35:54 am »
Bladerunner,

You have a question directed to you in Reply #1.

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Re: Did Jesus Die on a Friday?
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2020, 08:41:47 pm »
Bladerunner,

You have a question directed to you in Reply #1.

ok will try to find it..hang on, I might be a little slow but I will get there..

Thanks brstrats

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Did Jesus Die on a Friday?
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2020, 09:35:59 pm »
Bladerunner,

You have a question directed to you in Reply #1.

ok will try to find it..hang on, I might be a little slow but I will get there..

Thanks brstrats

Blade

RStrats..Is this the question??

"How do you reconcile a 4th day of the week crucifixion with Luke 24:21?"??????

We know that Jesus spent three full days and three full nights in the grave...Late Sunday evening Jesus joins several on the Emmaus Road. Luke 24:21.."But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done."

The Hebrews did not count time as we do..They throughout the Bible do not consider the day they are in as another day. They  rather counted time as "full days" not a partial days... Thus, It had been three days since it all had happened with the first day of the week as the fourth when it was finished. In this verse, we recognize it was not finished. If they had said the time of the fourth day; they would have said the so-and so hour of the fourth day. We can find this also in Luke 24:7.

In Luke 23:54.."And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on." we see "Day" being used as the same day and another day as "Sabbath Drew on".  The Hebrews simply counted time wholly different from what we do.

Hope this helps,

Blade


1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Did Jesus Die on a Friday?
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2020, 07:42:33 pm »
I don't think you theory that a full day had to unfold before it is part of prophecy. The two witnesses are in the grave for 3 1/2 days and nights. A Hebrew day starts at 6PM so night is the first part of the cycle, at 6AM it changes to day and 12 hours later a new day begins. The 3 1/2 days would be counted from the minute they were killed and their resurrection would be 84 hours layer (3 1/2 days)

On the day of the cross Jesus was arrested at 6PM and tortured until 12AM when He was on the erected cross, at 3PM He died and by 6PM (and the start of Passover) He had been in the grave (preaching to the OT Saints that were resurrected the same morning He was. God counts that as a 'full day'. The part about Him being in the grave by 6PM had to happen or his dead body would have stayed on the cross for Passover and the weekly Sabbath that followed Passover. 
When Jesus rode into Jerusalem it was on the 1st day of the week so a weekly Sabbath had just passed. It might be possible to track their movement during that visit to see that a Sabbath did not happen before the cross. 30AD is a year when Passover was the day before the weekly Sabbath. Thursday from 6AM to 6PM is the 1st day in the grave. Saturday from 6PM until Sunday at 6AM is the 3rd night.
The people Jesus sends to the grave end up being awake as well, they do not have Jesus there to preach to them. They have Satan in chains so they spend that whole time in hell mocking Satan and the fallen angels from the 'safety' of a locked cage.
1Pe:4:6:
For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead,
that they might be judged according to men in the flesh,
but live according to God in the spirit.

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Re: Did Jesus Die on a Friday?
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2020, 08:29:18 pm »
I don't think you theory that a full day had to unfold before it is part of prophecy. The two witnesses are in the grave for 3 1/2 days and nights. A Hebrew day starts at 6PM so night is the first part of the cycle, at 6AM it changes to day and 12 hours later a new day begins. The 3 1/2 days would be counted from the minute they were killed and their resurrection would be 84 hours layer (3 1/2 days)

On the day of the cross Jesus was arrested at 6PM and tortured until 12AM when He was on the erected cross, at 3PM He died and by 6PM (and the start of Passover) He had been in the grave (preaching to the OT Saints that were resurrected the same morning He was. God counts that as a 'full day'. The part about Him being in the grave by 6PM had to happen or his dead body would have stayed on the cross for Passover and the weekly Sabbath that followed Passover. 
When Jesus rode into Jerusalem it was on the 1st day of the week so a weekly Sabbath had just passed. It might be possible to track their movement during that visit to see that a Sabbath did not happen before the cross. 30AD is a year when Passover was the day before the weekly Sabbath. Thursday from 6AM to 6PM is the 1st day in the grave. Saturday from 6PM until Sunday at 6AM is the 3rd night.
The people Jesus sends to the grave end up being awake as well, they do not have Jesus there to preach to them. They have Satan in chains so they spend that whole time in hell mocking Satan and the fallen angels from the 'safety' of a locked cage.
1Pe:4:6:
For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead,
that they might be judged according to men in the flesh,
but live according to God in the spirit.
ok...Wayne, lets think about this a bit.

Jesus rode into Jerusalem on that donkey the the exact day Gabriel had told Daniel He would. That day was Sunday, April 6, 32 AD. Four days later (Sun, Mon, Tues, Wed) Jesus was crucified.

Jesus Dies on Wednesday at 3pm.  At 6pm. Thursday Feast of Unleaven Bread begins.
The first day Jesus is in the grave is Thursday. Yes, He is dead an extra 3 hours on Wednesday but his body was not in the grave. Where His spirit is during this three hours we are not told but he spends time in Paradise (beside Hell)the next three days..

Wednesday    | Thursday  | Friday    | Saturday   | Sunday
6:01PM.     6  | 01PM     6 | 01pm  6 |01 PM     6 |01PM

Crucifixion      | 1st Day    | 2nd Day | 3rd Day    | Resurrection

As you can see, His body was in the grave three days and three nights according to Jewish custom..  For sometime after 6:01Pm on Sunday night and 6 pm Sunday morning, Jesus arose. We are not told the exact time for this either.

You said:" The two witnesses are in the grave ". The two witnesses are not in the grave They lay on the ground where they died for 3.5days.

If you are saying the soul of the body is in the grave, that is not biblical. We are told that if we are in Jesus Christ, and out of our Fleshly body, we are with Him...

We are also told in the Story of the Rich man and Lazarus that when one dies if they are not believers and have been justified, their soul lands in Hell (KJV) until Judgement day (White Throne Judgement).

Our souls upon our death is either in Heaven or Hell...Not the Lake of Fire but Hades, (Hell) as in a holding pen.

Hope this helps.

Blade





1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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