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Re: Tobit
« on: November 13, 2019, 11:51:14 am »
So dakk, what do you make of the account in Tobit? Was it written before or after Pauls's writings and do you think one story is grafted from another, as are many Biblical accounts?
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It is full of symbolism just as is all of scripture, and yes, I believe it is written before the writings of Paul, and yes, I believe it is all interwoven, (scripture). For instance, you will find a somewhat partial explanation in Tobit concerning the three friends of Daniel, whose names were Hananiah, Azariah, and Mishael. Mishael is likely a reference to Michael, (one of the seven holy Angels who watch), while the other two names transliterated from the LXX are the same as those found in Tobit where the Angel Raphael gives his name, that is Azarias, which is the same as Azariah.

Moreover, not only that, but you can see from Tobit 5:12 quoted above herein, that Raphael says, "I am Azarias, the son of Ananias the great(er)".

Azarias = Azariah (Dan 1:6)
Ananias = Hananiah (Dan 1:6)
Mishael = Michael (Dan 1:6)

Therefore, with Gabriel, we may actually have not two but rather four holy Angels in the book of Daniel: and this cannot likely be understood without the book of Tobit and what it says about Raphael. If therefore we have Raphael, (Azariah-Azarias, Dan 1:6), and Gabriel, (Dan 8:16, 9:21) and Michael, (Dan 10:13, 10:21, 12:1), who is the fourth holy Angel?

Enoch tells us about the four that are roundabout the throne, (they are the same four in the Apocalypse). Whoever the fourth one is: he is also likely Hananiah-Ananias the greater, (or more likely elder, that is, in antiquity).
Interesting. I suppose I could find Tobit online and read it all. I have wondered about this because I heard there are four archangels but it doesn't seem the other two are mentioned much, only Gabriel and Michael. Where is Raphael mentioned in the 66?
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Loukas is "Leukos the White", the Physician-Healer of El, (Raphael means "Healer of El" or "Healing of El", ("God's Physician")). In Acts 13:1 Lukios, (generally rendered as "Lucius"), maybe a possible reference to him. Moreover Symeon Nijer is "Symeon the Black", (the meaning of Nijer is black), and Sopater Pyrrhus is "Sopater the Red", (the meaning of Pyrrhus is red, Acts 20:4), while the fourth is of course Philippos, ("friend of horses", (face of an eagle, Uriel)), one of the Seven, (Acts 21:8). And Philippos, like Uriel, has four virgin daughters of his doctrine which prophesy, (which is why you see in other writings that Uriel is combined with names of angels, such as in Enoch, where Uriel is also Phanuel as well as his name being a portion of the compound name Arsayalalyur, 1Enoch 10:1-2).
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