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Re: Tobit
« on: November 13, 2019, 11:50:02 am »
So dakk, what do you make of the account in Tobit? Was it written before or after Pauls's writings and do you think one story is grafted from another, as are many Biblical accounts?
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It is full of symbolism just as is all of scripture, and yes, I believe it is written before the writings of Paul, and yes, I believe it is all interwoven, (scripture). For instance, you will find a somewhat partial explanation in Tobit concerning the three friends of Daniel, whose names were Hananiah, Azariah, and Mishael. Mishael is likely a reference to Michael, (one of the seven holy Angels who watch), while the other two names transliterated from the LXX are the same as those found in Tobit where the Angel Raphael gives his name, that is Azarias, which is the same as Azariah.

Moreover, not only that, but you can see from Tobit 5:12 quoted above herein, that Raphael says, "I am Azarias, the son of Ananias the great(er)".

Azarias = Azariah (Dan 1:6)
Ananias = Hananiah (Dan 1:6)
Mishael = Michael (Dan 1:6)

Therefore, with Gabriel, we may actually have not two but rather four holy Angels in the book of Daniel: and this cannot likely be understood without the book of Tobit and what it says about Raphael. If therefore we have Raphael, (Azariah-Azarias, Dan 1:6), and Gabriel, (Dan 8:16, 9:21) and Michael, (Dan 10:13, 10:21, 12:1), who is the fourth holy Angel?

Enoch tells us about the four that are roundabout the throne, (they are the same four in the Apocalypse). Whoever the fourth one is: he is also likely Hananiah-Ananias the greater, (or more likely elder, that is, in antiquity).
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