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Why Are There So Many Christian Denominations? | Christian Arrogance


"The numbers seem to be based on just a few sources which are fairly consistent where they can be compared:

The World Christian Encyclopedia (David A. Barrett; Oxford University Press, 1982) apparently estimated almost 21,000 denominations, and the updated World Christian Encyclopedia (Barrett, Kurian, Johnson; Oxford Univ Press, 2nd edition, 2001) estimated at least 33,000. “Denomination” is defined as “an organised christian group within a country”.
The Center for the Study of Global Christianity at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary estimated 34,000 denominations in 2000, rising to an estimated 43,000 in 2012. These numbers have exploded from 1,600 in the year 1900."


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Very good topic
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Why Are There So Many Christian Denominations?

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Catholic diocese donates $50,000 to three black churches damaged by arson attack

The Greater Union Baptist Church in St. Landry Parish, La. was set ablaze on April, 2, 2019.
A Roman Catholic diocese donated an estimated $50,000 to three historically African-American churches that were the victims of a series of arson attacks in Louisiana.

Earlier this year, St. Mary’s Baptist Church of Port Barre, Greater Union Baptist Church and Mt. Pleasant Baptist Church of Opelousas were attacked by an arsonist.

Bishop J. Douglas Deshotel of the Catholic Diocese of Lafayette presented the donation last Thursday to the pastors of the three congregations at the site of the former St. Mary’s Baptist, according to local newspaper The Acadiana Advocate.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/catholic-diocese-donates-50000-to-three-black-churches-damaged-by-arson-attack.html


"Where there are sins there are also divisions, schisms, heresies and disputes. Where there is virtue, however, there also are harmony and unity, from which arise the one heart and one soul of all believers."
Origen, Hom. in 9, 1: PG 13, 732.
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I always have looked at denomination more as stacked from four root groups.   The first is based on Catholicism: The Catholic Church, The Orthodox Church, the Coptics, and the Ethiopians.   The second is the original church that formed from the reformers like Luther and Calvin.  The third was the Anglicans and their derivatives and final the fourth is everyone else.

All of this have their roots in the simple teachings of Jesus of Nazareth before he was elevated to Christ.   But that is how I have looked at it as it made it easier to handle everything Academically.
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I always have looked at denomination more as stacked from four root groups.   The first is based on Catholicism: The Catholic Church, The Orthodox Church, the Coptics, and the Ethiopians.   The second is the original church that formed from the reformers like Luther and Calvin.  The third was the Anglicans and their derivatives and final the fourth is everyone else.

All of this have their roots in the simple teachings of Jesus of Nazareth before he was elevated to Christ.   But that is how I have looked at it as it made it easier to handle everything Academically.
Yes I agree
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I always have looked at denomination more as stacked from four root groups.   The first is based on Catholicism: The Catholic Church, The Orthodox Church, the Coptics, and the Ethiopians.   The second is the original church that formed from the reformers like Luther and Calvin.  The third was the Anglicans and their derivatives and final the fourth is everyone else.

All of this have their roots in the simple teachings of Jesus of Nazareth before he was elevated to Christ.   But that is how I have looked at it as it made it easier to handle everything Academically.

From the first century Church, a split happened around 375 AD. The split resulted in the group we now know as Baptist and their derivatives (ana-Baptist, etc) that went underground until later in the first millennial AD.

The other part of the split went to the Catholic Church when Constantine married the state to the Church. From the  Catholic brand of Christianity came all other denominations, sects and non-denominations, Orthodox (both eastern and western) you speak of.

While the Protestant groups began in the 1500/1600s, all come out of the Catholic Church and most all held onto many doctrines of the ROC.

Of course through the years there have been some splits within these denominations; some splits that took a turn away from ROC doctrines and some splits that stepped closer to the ROC...We see this today in the Ecumenical churches including some like Billy Graham's who has sided with the ROC.

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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I have never related the modern Baptist groups in our country with the split that had a baptist church
 from 375 CE.   Just my viewpoint in looking at the baptist then and now and do not seem enough relative sameness.   But then I am sure the same can be said fro all denomination currently.
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I have never related the modern Baptist groups in our country with the split that had a baptist church
 from 375 CE.   Just my viewpoint in looking at the baptist then and now and do not seem enough relative sameness.   But then I am sure the same can be said fro all denomination currently.
Hi, Mark.

I mistakingly spoke out of turn here (so to speak).. the split came sometime in the 1st century to the middle of the 2nd century...when the church was married to the state. Thus, the Roman Church was born. (two emperors after Constantine)

I would suggest you pick up a copy of the book, "The Trail of Blood" by Dr. J.M. Carrol. It is interesting reading.


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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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I have never related the modern Baptist groups in our country with the split that had a baptist church
 from 375 CE.   Just my viewpoint in looking at the baptist then and now and do not seem enough relative sameness.   But then I am sure the same can be said fro all denomination currently.
Hi, Mark.

I mistakingly spoke out of turn here (so to speak).. the split came sometime in the 1st century to the middle of the 2nd century...when the church was married to the state. Thus, the Roman Church was born. (two emperors after Constantine)

I would suggest you pick up a copy of the book, "The Trail of Blood" by Dr. J.M. Carrol. It is interesting reading.


Blade
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