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Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« on: September 03, 2018, 10:30:07 am »




Answers #26 | Does Trauma Cause Homosexuality?


There's no scientific evidence that  anyone is born gay but there is a lot of evidence that homosexuality is linked to emotional trauma and psychological scarring in developmental years. In this Answers video we take a look at famous examples.


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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2018, 10:37:36 am »
Is Homosexuality a Sin? | Can Christians be Gay?



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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2018, 10:44:21 am »
What The Bible Really Says About Being Gay



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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2018, 09:06:00 pm »
Is Homosexuality a Sin? | Can Christians be Gay?



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It appears that JOE is telling us that scripturally, Homosexuality is a sin but then in the next sentence he tells us it is the same as his sins. Thus as a Christian, (sins are forgiven) including Homosexuality.

I have a problem with that. If a Homosexual repent and turns away from this sin and finds Jesus, OK.... However, it going to be hard to live in 24 hour sin and be a true Christian. I do not believe in Carnal Chrisitans. In a OSAS scenario, homosexuality could not be part of ones life.

Joe also touched on Marriage of Homosexuals and it seems He is OK with it.  WOW....We were designed to be one man and one woman. Marriage is where one Man and One Woman become ONE!.

To me this is 'Sticking it to GOD' and placing Man's  sovereignty over that of GOD's.

Think of it this way for all of you that think this way.  GOD did not destroy Sodom because of Homosexuality itself but because EVERY MAN in the town condoned it. I live with 9it around me because I cannot go anywhere it is not. As far as condoning it, I DO NOT!

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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
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Is Homosexuality a Sin? | Can Christians be Gay?



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It appears that JOE is telling us that scripturally, Homosexuality is a sin but then in the next sentence he tells us it is the same as his sins. Thus as a Christian, (sins are forgiven) including Homosexuality.

I have a problem with that. If a Homosexual repent and turns away from this sin and finds Jesus, OK.... However, it going to be hard to live in 24 hour sin and be a true Christian. I do not believe in Carnal Chrisitans. In a OSAS scenario, homosexuality could not be part of ones life.

Joe also touched on Marriage of Homosexuals and it seems He is OK with it.  WOW....We were designed to be one man and one woman. Marriage is where one Man and One Woman become ONE!.

To me this is 'Sticking it to GOD' and placing Man's  sovereignty over that of GOD's.

Think of it this way for all of you that think this way.  GOD did not destroy Sodom because of Homosexuality itself but because EVERY MAN in the town condoned it. I live with 9it around me because I cannot go anywhere it is not. As far as condoning it, I DO NOT!

Blade

I'm with you 100% on this. Homosexuality is an abomination as far as I'm concerned. You may like the other two short videos "What the Bible says about" - Very good study in those vids. The use of Homosexual in the Bible and what the word originally means, as well as the word "unnatural".




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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2018, 03:15:15 pm »
If itís a choice and itís described as a sin, then yeah itís a sin. I definitely agree that it is not this gigantic unforgivable salvation threatening sin. One of those videos seemed to imply that homosexuality may be a sort of ďside effectĒ of trauma and abuse, if you go that route youíve got to bring psychology into the discussion in a larger capacity than just a passing mention, we would have to look into obsession/compulsion, cognitive function, any disorders that would get lumped into a similar category, maybe even a few more relevant things within that field of study.
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It appears that JOE is telling us that scripturally, Homosexuality is a sin but then in the next sentence he tells us it is the same as his sins. Thus as a Christian, (sins are forgiven) including Homosexuality.

I have a problem with that. If a Homosexual repent and turns away from this sin and finds Jesus, OK.... However, it going to be hard to live in 24 hour sin and be a true Christian. I do not believe in Carnal Chrisitans. In a OSAS scenario, homosexuality could not be part of ones life.

Joe also touched on Marriage of Homosexuals and it seems He is OK with it.  WOW....We were designed to be one man and one woman. Marriage is where one Man and One Woman become ONE!.

To me this is 'Sticking it to GOD' and placing Man's  sovereignty over that of GOD's.

Think of it this way for all of you that think this way.  GOD did not destroy Sodom because of Homosexuality itself but because EVERY MAN in the town condoned it. I live with 9it around me because I cannot go anywhere it is not. As far as condoning it, I DO NOT!

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Iím not sure I agree with homosexuality as being a thing that is all encompassing in a persons existence. Iím not consciously checking up on my own heterosexuality all day. Iím not thinking about or engaging in sex all of the time. I think the homosexual thoughts and actions are what do it as far as sinning goes, unless you hold a belief that gay people will always be gay and it is outside of their control.

Iím no advocate for gay marriage, I believe a religious leader has the right to turn away people who are gay and want to be officiated by them. If it is legal for them to be married in whatever state they live in, federal and state employees are required to grant them the request if they qualify and should not let bias impede their duty. If you cannot carry out your job because of religious convictions, then state and federal agencies are not the best place to work for you. In those places, the law of the land is what you are hired to carry out, even when it contradicts the law of God. God wins out over state and country to me.
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2018, 08:54:45 pm »
It appears that JOE is telling us that scripturally, Homosexuality is a sin but then in the next sentence he tells us it is the same as his sins. Thus as a Christian, (sins are forgiven) including Homosexuality.

I have a problem with that. If a Homosexual repent and turns away from this sin and finds Jesus, OK.... However, it going to be hard to live in 24 hour sin and be a true Christian. I do not believe in Carnal Chrisitans. In a OSAS scenario, homosexuality could not be part of ones life.

Joe also touched on Marriage of Homosexuals and it seems He is OK with it.  WOW....We were designed to be one man and one woman. Marriage is where one Man and One Woman become ONE!.

To me this is 'Sticking it to GOD' and placing Man's  sovereignty over that of GOD's.

Think of it this way for all of you that think this way.  GOD did not destroy Sodom because of Homosexuality itself but because EVERY MAN in the town condoned it. I live with 9it around me because I cannot go anywhere it is not. As far as condoning it, I DO NOT!

Blade

Iím not sure I agree with homosexuality as being a thing that is all encompassing in a persons existence. Iím not consciously checking up on my own heterosexuality all day. Iím not thinking about or engaging in sex all of the time. I think the homosexual thoughts and actions are what do it as far as sinning goes, unless you hold a belief that gay people will always be gay and it is outside of their control.

Iím no advocate for gay marriage, I believe a religious leader has the right to turn away people who are gay and want to be officiated by them. If it is legal for them to be married in whatever state they live in, federal and state employees are required to grant them the request if they qualify and should not let bias impede their duty. If you cannot carry out your job because of religious convictions, then state and federal agencies are not the best place to work for you. In those places, the law of the land is what you are hired to carry out, even when it contradicts the law of God. God wins out over state and country to me.

You said:"unless you hold a belief that gay people will always be gay and it is outside of their control."

Jon, in answer to your question above, I do not KNOW? 

What I believe is GOD's WORD (KJV) and Mankinds Medical Science.

With Science there is no proof whatsoever including DNA that would legitimize Homosexuality.

God's WORD is sovereign above all else. I think you already know the verses that are associated with this behavior.

Here is an article I found... (ex-GAY) http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2007/1224/print/

I do know that you are taking a terrible chance. For everyone has a Rapture date(death). After that time has passed, no further choices can be made. It will be too late and what if you and your assumptions are wrong?

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2018, 11:51:08 pm »
You said:"unless you hold a belief that gay people will always be gay and it is outside of their control."

Jon, in answer to your question above, I do not KNOW? 

What I believe is GOD's WORD (KJV) and Mankinds Medical Science.

With Science there is no proof whatsoever including DNA that would legitimize Homosexuality.

God's WORD is sovereign above all else. I think you already know the verses that are associated with this behavior.

Here is an article I found... (ex-GAY) http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2007/1224/print/

I do know that you are taking a terrible chance. For everyone has a Rapture date(death). After that time has passed, no further choices can be made. It will be too late and what if you and your assumptions are wrong?

Blade


Iím quicker than a good many people to admit the possibility that I could be wrong about something. I may not have come off as clearly as I intended (iím Not always the clearest speaker), but I was sure that I stated my belief that homosexuality is a choice and a sin. I believe it carries the same repercussions in a Christians life as any other sin.

Iím unsure what chance I am taking, if I speak with a homosexual on the subject I will make it abundantly clear to them that God has the only authority on the matter and that to look for all answers within Him and His will, just like everybody else. I appreciate your concerns, and I will tell you that I am aware that nothing is negotiable with God. I am well aware that a salvific error means my condemnation if I will not accept the truth. Iíve accepted the possibility of condemnation, I have acknowledged to the Lord that I may misunderstand something that is salvific and that I will raise no fuss with God about the outcome. I donít worry about my salvation, I make sure that people know how to find theirs.
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2018, 06:18:57 pm »
You said:"unless you hold a belief that gay people will always be gay and it is outside of their control."

Jon, in answer to your question above, I do not KNOW? 

What I believe is GOD's WORD (KJV) and Mankinds Medical Science.

With Science there is no proof whatsoever including DNA that would legitimize Homosexuality.

God's WORD is sovereign above all else. I think you already know the verses that are associated with this behavior.

Here is an article I found... (ex-GAY) http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2007/1224/print/

I do know that you are taking a terrible chance. For everyone has a Rapture date(death). After that time has passed, no further choices can be made. It will be too late and what if you and your assumptions are wrong?

Blade


Iím quicker than a good many people to admit the possibility that I could be wrong about something. I may not have come off as clearly as I intended (iím Not always the clearest speaker), but I was sure that I stated my belief that homosexuality is a choice and a sin. I believe it carries the same repercussions in a Christians life as any other sin.

Iím unsure what chance I am taking, if I speak with a homosexual on the subject I will make it abundantly clear to them that God has the only authority on the matter and that to look for all answers within Him and His will, just like everybody else. I appreciate your concerns, and I will tell you that I am aware that nothing is negotiable with God. I am well aware that a salvific error means my condemnation if I will not accept the truth. Iíve accepted the possibility of condemnation, I have acknowledged to the Lord that I may misunderstand something that is salvific and that I will raise no fuss with God about the outcome. I donít worry about my salvation, I make sure that people know how to find theirs.

Now this is out of the way, we can continue to debate other pressing agendas of the Bible. 

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

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