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Re: Spotlight on the Pachamama Controversy
« on: November 10, 2019, 08:50:12 pm »
Dear epostle,
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I just have to say that you should ask Blade to explain more fully what he was saying.
I know exactly what he is saying. A meaningless flaming zinger based on blind prejudice. 
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I do have a problem with the Pope worshiping Jesus' mother and other 'saints.' 
Of course you do. Anti-Catholic myths has been part of your training. It's so automatic you don't realize you are doing it. You will have to show me in any official Catholic document in a 2000 year period that instructs Catholics to worship Mary or other saints. It's a stupid canard.
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Jesus did not tell us to worship His mother.
Please stop saying Catholics worship Mary. It's insulting. The honor we give to Mary is the same kind of honor that you give to Paul. Human to human. Only more of it. Paul didn't give birth to the Messiah. We think that makes Mary special. Don't you? The anti-Mary animus in Protestantism is not biblical. Are we not to imitate Christ? Did Jesus honor His mother? Oh sure, imitate Christ, but not that!?!

We honor saints because of their exemplary life in Christ. We marvel at their holiness centuries later, and even recent ones.
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  He said to worship GOD.
Catholics worship only God and God alone. But don't take my word for it; attend a Mass and see for yourself.
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The same thing goes with the various saints that they put on a pedestal.
  I'm sure you have met holy Christians in your life, who bear abundant fruit. Do you put them on a pedestal? Of course not.
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There is no Mother Nature either. It is simply the Lord who causes all of the weather, etc.  Hey, I've always felt this way.
Agreed.  It's a common euphemism that doesn't necessarily mean creation worship. It's used in every day language.
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  But, I do love the Catholic people and the fact that they accept Jesus as God's Son, and their own Savior.  That tells me a lot and I feel they are Christians, too.
Thank you.
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I'm not a moderator, but thought I should share these things. It is not right for them to play bingo at the church either, for that is gambling and it is a house of worship.  Something is just not right.
People go to bingos for fellowship and to raise money for charity. They are strictly regulated by various government entities. Every penny is accounted for according to the laws of the land. They were never held in a church, but in a hall. Now, various charities take turns running them in public places. I haven't seen a church bingo in 40 years.  Equating church bingos with casinos is nit picking phariseeism.

The Pope deemed Mary as Co-redemtrix..She can save you as well as Jesus can.....wellllllllll   NOT in the real world reality but only in the catholic church

 While I do not subscribe to Wikipedia in any form, I did copy the following from its pages just for your info.....enjoy.....The Catholic Church has fallen away from Jesus Christ and if you read the letter to Thyatira  you will find the problems they are having parallel the Catholic church down through the centuries.
Rev 2:18-29


Blade




Howdy, Blade --

I hope that you are doing decent, lately, and that you are full of joy regarding the time that is at hand.  We are blessed to live during these days and will see many incredible occurrences.

Now, Blade, I don't know what to say to you right now.  I know that His disciples were given the power or ability to heal others, but I don't know if they have the power to 'save' souls.  No, I don't see that happening, so I can see what you mean.

She is indeed a lady with no match among women during our generation of Adam.  It is good to revere her, but not to put her status above God or Jesus.  I think that John the Baptist had a hard job to do, besides her.

That's really all that I have to say about it for now.  Let's not be caught up in whether Mary is worthy of worship in saving souls, or not.  I doubt it, too.  I think we must leave it to her Son & God, to be saving souls.

Tons Of Love & Pleasant Times, For You & Yours,

Michael




Dear epostle,

I am just fine with you and figure that Mary is precious indeed.  Perhaps, she can save souls because of how much the Lord God loved her, considering she birthed His son.  That is beyond words in a way.  She could certainly put in a good word to God or Jesus to help save that soul.  So, you don't believe Mary can save souls?  I don't either, but her influence must be enormous.  I love her dearly, but God is my dear best friend, and Father.

Jesus is the same as God, even though they are different vessels.  They both are filled with God's Spirit.  I love them both very much, but God takes a bit more precedence than Jesus, because the Father is more than the Son.  Still, I worship them as One.  And the Holy Ghost is extremely excellent and He has visited me a number of times.  Sometimes, I cry and laugh at the same time.  I am so very thankful that the Lord God would send Him to me so often.  He usually comes at a time when I really need the help, inspiration, and solace/ peace.

You are Catholic and that is fine with me.  You're loved by God and Jesus, the Holy Ghost, and God's angels.  You don't need any more than that.  We all get difficulties sometimes because of our beliefs.  Have to get going, buddy!

May Jesus Charge His Angels To Give You Strength and Joy!!

Michael




« Last Edit: November 11, 2019, 06:34:37 pm by MichaelC »
I believe in the Lord God and how He wanted us to live.  I worship Him and love Him exceedingly much.  I also believe in Jesus Christ and His commandments, and in the example He gave us on how to live our lives.  With them both, and I love and adore Him as my Savior, Master and best Brother & King.  My love is strong and encompassing.

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