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Quote from: MichaelC on July 27, 2019, 08:20:52 pm

Hey All, this post is not polished yet.  The quotes don't always get noted correctly as to who they are from.  I'm sleepy now.


My Dear TJ,

You are female, yes?  First, I must say that I do not go to CF, I go to TF.  I used to go to CF years ago.

Also, hon, I do not know how to do this quote/ unquote thing, and will do my best to find a way to get this right, so it will reach you okay.

This will be hard to tell you, but you will all find out soon enough.  We know that man has a vessel for his soul and spirit which is his ‘earthly body.’

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That's because man needs a physical earthly body while here on earth because man is physical.

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Yes, that's why a man needs an earthly body.  He is on Earth.  When he 'dies,' his soul and spirit pops out of his body and he is then spiritual.  What happens next is determined upon whether he goes to Heaven, or his soul rests in the dust of the Earth.  If he goes to Heaven, his soul and spirit will remain alive and free to move as they do in Heaven.  He will be given a star/planet {Venus} to live in, as a usual 'home-base,' but according to what God wants, he can move freely from his home-base and fly around the Heavens as he wants.

Remember that Jesus said He was the bright and morning star, as He received from His Father?  That's Venus.  Further, man can fly very fast in Heaven and is not limited to a slower pace, like when he had legs.  This will be hard to tell you, but you will all find out soon enough.  We know that man has a vessel for his soul and spirit which is his ‘earthly body.’

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That's because man needs a physical earthly body while here on earth because man is physical.

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Yes, that's why a man needs an earthly body.  He is on Earth.  When he 'dies,' his soul and spirit pops out of his body and he is then spiritual.  What is next is determined whether he goes to Heaven, or his soul rests in the dust of the Earth.  If he goes to Heaven, his soul and spirit will remain alive and free to move as they do in Heaven.  He will be given a star/planet {Venus} to live in, as a usual 'home-base,' but according to what God wants, he can move freely from his home-base and fly around the Heavens as he wants,  if it is God's Will.  He can fly very fast and is not limited to a slower pace, like when he had legs.

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Well, for those people who go to Heaven, their souls and spirit will go into a heavenly body, namely a star.  This is why it is written in Daniel 12:3KJV, “And those who turn many to righteousness shall BE as the stars forever and ever.”  The angels are stars giving off holy light, which is of God's Spirit, and they shine brightly.  See the verse I’ve noted above, please.

John was called a lamp because he shined forth light as a lamp but he wasn't a lamp. He was a man. John 5:35
The righteous shine light as the sun but they aren't the sun and never will be. John 13:43
The righteous shine light as the stars but they aren't the stars and never will be. Dan. 12:3

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Now, there are people all over the Earth.  The Lord God Jehovah has a vessel that He dwells in and spends His time in.  Also, John perhaps 'personified' a lamp, just as a candle does, or even Jesus and His disciples, etc.  It is written in Rev. 11:3KJV that the two witnesses who would come in the latter days would be the 'olive trees and candlesticks' before the Lord, as they prophesied for God and Jesus.  Of course, they weren't actual candles or trees.

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God is Spirit and invisible. John 4:24
He doesn't need a physical vessel to dwell in and spend his time in. Even the heaven of heavens cannot contain him.2Chr. 2:6 God is not limited that way. Spirit is not confined by the physical.

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I know that He does not need a vessel.  It is done for the sake of mankind being too simple.  Man has to have something physical to look at and the Lord God feels it best to use the moon as His Seat or Throne, and He will reveal Himself and His Throne before the Lord Jesus returns again.  I know that God's Spirit is everywhere, but He still has a Throne.  Jesus' body was Spirit confined to a physical body, remember?

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Just like it is written, 'Satan, I know where thy seat is.'  Well, the Lord told me that it is the center of the Earth.  Moon, Earth, go figure.  God designed things the way that He did.  Take it up with Him.  God’s Spirit is everywhere throughout the Universe, but His seat right now is what we call our ‘Moon.’  As it is written, "His Great White Throne."

Is the moon heaven? According to scripture His throne is in heaven.Isa. 66:1
It doesn't mention the moon as being His throne. The moon was part of creation. The moon is physical. God is Spirit. His throne is in heaven.[/quote]

The moon is Not Heaven.  But it is In Heaven, also called the Firmament.  The sun and moon have different uses or reasons for being here.  The sun is the lake of fire.  I would answer the rest that you've said here, but I already have earlier in this post.

The Moon is a heavenly body which is a vessel for the Lord Jehovah {similarly like a satellite, even}.  It travels around the Earth every 24 hours, watching over mankind below.  The Lord God can be advised about the details of mankind in His Journey around the globe and He sees with His Eyes and by His Spirit.  He is also given information by the guardian angels who guide the people below on the Earth.[/Quote]

God doesn't need a physical vessel to travel in to watch over mankind or to travel around the globe. That limits God. His eyes watch over mankind and examine them from his throne in heaven. John 34:21For His eyes are on the ways of man, and He sees his every step.

God isn't limited at all, for His Spirit is everywhere and no, His present Throne is what He wants.  I'm not going to disagree with Him.

Humans are physical and need a physical vessel to travel in. God is not physical like man and He does not need a physical vessel to travel and journey in.

Of course, He can help anyone at any time whether He is on one side of the Earth or the other.  It is also the Lord Who controls the weather below.  High pressures meeting lows to do what He will here.

Man also has technology to control weather and man is most certainly using that technology putting all life on earth at risk.

Man's technology only helps him to do very little, like tell what weather is coming sometimes or perhaps, use silver iodide, etc.  Man cannot cause a tornado, hurricane, roaring waves, earthquakes, tsunamis and most floods to happen.  God has the great power and is in control of it all.  He can leave one house or city undisturbed and demolish the next right beside each other!!

Do not 'worship' the Moon.  Instead, worship as you have been doing, for THAT is the Spirit of God.  I want to help the people who are unwise about it.  Don't Do It!

I don't worship the creation. I worship the Creator. Rom. 1:25.{/quote]

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That is the only way to do it.  I'm glad that you feel that way.  I think some people will screw up because they don't know the Lord God well enough.

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The Earth waxes old, and there are too many people on it.  God's intention is to take 2/3 of the inhabitants off of it.  Once again, the meek shall inherit the Earth.  Our climate is as it should be right now.

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Do you know that there are those who say that there are too many people on Earth and they are trying to eliminate about 2/3 of the earth's population to bring in the New World Order?

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There won't be any 'new world order,' so don't fret.  The Lord will cause everything to be done according to His Will.

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Our climate is not as it should be right now because man has tampered with the climate too much and it is endangering man and animals and plants and sea life. Man has also polluted the earth and destroyed it in many ways. God says that he will destroy those who destroy the earth. Rev. 11:18.

[Quote}Our climate is okay, for God knew it would happen a very long time ago.  He is causing great occurrences in the Earth and the Heaven.  He's trying to let people down here know that the latter days are with us and they just think it is 'global warming.'  No matter what He does on Earth, people rationalize it and call it all Mother Nature.  There is no Mother Nature.  There is the Lord who is bringing All of it.  A butterfly evolving from a caterpillar, that is God doing that, not Mother Nature.  The same with great earthquakes or torrential rain and storms.

TJ, I'm sorry I couldn't do a better job than this, but I spent hours on trying to figure out how to do this right.  I don't know how to do 3-quote codes.  I had to give up because I could not figure out how to do it.  I've been working on this for 7 hours, from 1 a.m. to 8 a.m.  I've been up all night.  Gonna hit the hay now.  You have an excellent day.

May God Reside In Your Heart & Mind!!

Michael