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Dear TJ,

I don't hold back just because of you, but instead because of anyone who can read my words, especially visitors.
MC


I felt that way for a long time. I kept quiet for different reasons. I decided that I wasn't helping anyone else by keeping silent. Even if others didn't believe what I said, at least I drew attention to it. I tried to shine a light on what is being done in secret and in the darkness. Because so many people aren't aware and I felt that they needed to know.


Dear TJ,

I still have to keep such secrets and will mull it over to decide if you all can deal with it.  I may write about something big in my next post, but then everyone will gripe at me, I think.  We'll see.

Mike





Dear TJ,

This will be hard to tell you, but you will all find out soon enough.  We know that man has a vessel for his soul and spirit which is his ‘earthly body.’  Well, for those people who go to Heaven, their souls and spirit will go into a heavenly body, namely a star.  This is why it is written in Daniel 12:3KJV, “And those who turn many to righteousness shall BE as the stars forever and ever.”  The angels are stars giving off holy light, which is of God's Spirit, and they shine brightly.  See the verse I’ve noted above, please.

Now, there are people all over the Earth.  The Lord God Jehovah has a vessel that He dwells in and spends His time in.  God’s Spirit is everywhere throughout the Universe, but His seat right now is what we call our ‘Moon.’  As it is written, "His Great White Throne."

It is a heavenly body which is a vessel for the Lord Jehovah {similar like a satellite}.  The moon travels around the Earth every 24 hours, watching over mankind below.  The Lord God can be advised about the details of mankind in His Journey around the globe.  He is also given information by the guardian angels who guide the people below on the Earth.

Of course, He can help anyone at any time whether He is on one side of the Earth or the other.  It is also the Lord Who controls the weather below.  High pressures meeting lows to do what He will here.  Sometimes, the Earth eclipses the moon, and the moon eclipses the sun.  A lunar eclipse causes the Earth to be red and appear as the color of blood, figuratively.  God’s Spirit is within every living creature on Earth and in Heaven, whether plant or animals, and even rocks, which grow crystals and such within them.  Each rock different from another.  Many are beautiful inside.  Others have an inside that somewhat matches their outside.

His Spirit is inside trees – plants, flowers, etc.  Also within animals, bugs and the aquatic life in the lakes and sea.  God creates diamonds and jewels in the Earth, too.  There are many angels in Heaven and there are many on Earth, all helping those on the Earth.  Guardian angels help each person.  Sometimes a person has more than one angel helping them, according to what they have to experience.  The same with all other spirit-filled life on Earth {and in the sea, of course}.  You might notice that the names Jesus and Jehovah are related and similar.  So is the name, Joshua.


Do not 'worship' the Moon.  Instead, worship as you have been doing, for THAT is the Spirit of God.  I want to help the people who are unwise about it.  Don't Do It!

Okay, TJ, here is another secret that will be proven soon when you see it during the end of Armageddon.  Now, can you really handle what I've said here?  This will have to do for now.  Let you All get adjusted to it.  Cope and realize that God knew that our weather would change.  The Earth waxes old, and there are too many people on it.  God's intention is to take 2/3 of the inhabitants off of it.  Once again, the meek shall inherit the Earth.  Our climate is as it should be right now.  God's Will goes forth, as Armageddon unwraps quickly.

I may tell you about Armageddon later.  It's going to be a while because this alone that I've shared with you, is phenomenal.  Keep your heads together.  It's time to learn.  The seventh angel shall sound soon.  Once again, see Rev. 10:7KJV.

Don't kill the messenger.  I've shared because I felt that I could.

May Your Love For God Endure Forever!

Michael
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Dear TJ,

I don't hold back just because of you, but instead because of anyone who can read my words, especially visitors.
MC


I felt that way for a long time. I kept quiet for different reasons. I decided that I wasn't helping anyone else by keeping silent. Even if others didn't believe what I said, at least I drew attention to it. I tried to shine a light on what is being done in secret and in the darkness. Because so many people aren't aware and I felt that they needed to know.




Dear TJ,

I still have to keep such secrets and will mull it over to decide if you all can deal with it.  I may write about something big in my next post, but then everyone will gripe at me, I think.  We'll see.

Mike



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Dear TJ,

This will be hard to tell you, but you will all find out soon enough.  We know that man has a vessel for his soul and spirit which is his ‘earthly body.’  Well, for those people who go to Heaven, their souls and spirit will go into a heavenly body, namely a star.  This is why it is written in Daniel 12:3KJV, “And those who turn many to righteousness shall BE as the stars forever and ever.”  The angels are stars giving off holy light, which is of God's Spirit, and they shine brightly.  See the verse I’ve noted above, please.

Now, there are people all over the Earth.  The Lord God Jehovah has a vessel that He dwells in and spends His time in.  God’s Spirit is everywhere throughout the Universe, but His seat right now is what we call our ‘Moon.’  As it is written, "His Great White Throne."

It is a heavenly body which is a vessel for the Lord Jehovah {similar like a satellite}.  The moon travels around the Earth every 24 hours, watching over mankind below.  The Lord God can be advised about the details of mankind in His Journey around the globe.  He is also given information by the guardian angels who guide the people below on the Earth.

Of course, He can help anyone at any time whether He is on one side of the Earth or the other.  It is also the Lord Who controls the weather below.  High pressures meeting lows to do what He will here.  Sometimes, the Earth eclipses the moon, and the moon eclipses the sun.  A lunar eclipse causes the Earth to be red and appear as the color of blood, figuratively.  God’s Spirit is within every living creature on Earth and in Heaven, whether plant or animals, and even rocks, which grow crystals and such within them.  Each rock different from another.  Many are beautiful inside.  Others have an inside that somewhat matches their outside.

His Spirit is inside trees – plants, flowers, etc.  Also within animals, bugs and the aquatic life in the lakes and sea.  God creates diamonds and jewels in the Earth, too.  There are many angels in Heaven and there are many on Earth, all helping those on the Earth.  Guardian angels help each person.  Sometimes a person has more than one angel helping them, according to what they have to experience.  The same with all other spirit-filled life on Earth {and in the sea, of course}.  You might notice that the names Jesus and Jehovah are related and similar.  So is the name, Joshua.


Do not 'worship' the Moon.  Instead, worship as you have been doing, for THAT is the Spirit of God.  I want to help the people who are unwise about it.  Don't Do It!

Okay, TJ, here is another secret that will be proven soon when you see it during the end of Armageddon.  Now, can you really handle what I've said here?  This will have to do for now.  Let you All get adjusted to it.  Cope and realize that God knew that our weather would change.  The Earth waxes old, and there are too many people on it.  God's intention is to take 2/3 of the inhabitants off of it.  Once again, the meek shall inherit the Earth.  Our climate is as it should be right now.  God's Will goes forth, as Armageddon unwraps quickly.

I may tell you about Armageddon later.  It's going to be a while because this alone that I've shared with you, is phenomenal.  Keep your heads together.  It's time to learn.  The seventh angel shall sound soon.  Once again, see Rev. 10:7KJV.

Don't kill the messenger.  I've shared because I felt that I could.

May Your Love For God Endure Forever!

Michael

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Hey Michael,,,,at it again...LOL..keep at it Brother

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Thanks, Blade!  I'm going to take a rest for now...LOL...this is too much work for me.
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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Michael, I hope you will allow me to make comments about your last post to me and not be offended or take it too personally. I will just give my thoughts and understanding as you have given yours. It doesn't mean that I can't handle what you're saying. I just understand it in a different way. It's okay for me to have my understanding, isn't it, as it's okay for you to have your understanding.

Would you be agreeable for me to give some comments based on my understanding of what you've said? If not then I won't make any comments.
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“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

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Dear Truthj,

First, I must tell you that the Lord God's Throne in NEW JERUSALEM shall be Different than it is now, because the planets and moons will all dissolve after the second death.  That is the Apocalypse.  The Earth shall be gone and the New Jerusalem is a new place/ city that we will end up in.   Surely, it would be wonderful to hear anything you have to say.  You don't have to ask me.  I do have to get going for now, but will check it out later.

Mike


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Dear TJ,

This will be hard to tell you, but you will all find out soon enough.  We know that man has a vessel for his soul and spirit which is his ‘earthly body.’

That's because man needs a physical earthly body while here on earth because man is physical.

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Well, for those people who go to Heaven, their souls and spirit will go into a heavenly body, namely a star.  This is why it is written in Daniel 12:3KJV, “And those who turn many to righteousness shall BE as the stars forever and ever.”  The angels are stars giving off holy light, which is of God's Spirit, and they shine brightly.  See the verse I’ve noted above, please.
John was called a lamp because he shined forth light as a lamp but he wasn't a lamp. He was a man. John 5:35
The righteous shine light as the sun but they aren't the sun and never will be. John 13:43
The righteous shine light as the stars but they aren't the stars and never will be. Dan. 12:3

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Now, there are people all over the Earth.  The Lord God Jehovah has a vessel that He dwells in and spends His time in.
God is Spirit and invisible. John 4:24
He doesn't need a physical vessel to dwell in and spend his time in. Even the heaven of heavens cannot contain him.2Chr. 2:6 God is not limited that way. Spirit is not confined by the physical.

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God’s Spirit is everywhere throughout the Universe, but His seat right now is what we call our ‘Moon.’  As it is written, "His Great White Throne."
Is the moon heaven? According to scripture His throne is in heaven.Isa. 66:1
It doesn't mention the moon as being His throne. The moon was part of creation. The moon is physical. God is Spirit. His throne is in heaven.

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It is a heavenly body which is a vessel for the Lord Jehovah {similar like a satellite}.  The moon travels around the Earth every 24 hours, watching over mankind below.  The Lord God can be advised about the details of mankind in His Journey around the globe.  He is also given information by the guardian angels who guide the people below on the Earth.
God doesn't need a physical vessel to travel in to watch over mankind or to travel around the globe. That limits God. His eyes watch over mankind and examine them from his throne in heaven. John 34:21For His eyes are on the ways of man, and He sees his every step.
Humans are physical and need a physical vessel to travel in. God is not physical like man and He does not need a physical vessel to travel and journey in.

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Of course, He can help anyone at any time whether He is on one side of the Earth or the other.  It is also the Lord Who controls the weather below.  High pressures meeting lows to do what He will here.
Man also has technology to control weather and man is most certainly using that technology putting all life on earth at risk.

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Do not 'worship' the Moon.  Instead, worship as you have been doing, for THAT is the Spirit of God.  I want to help the people who are unwise about it.  Don't Do It!
I don't worship the creation. I worship the Creator. Rom. 1:25

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The Earth waxes old, and there are too many people on it.  God's intention is to take 2/3 of the inhabitants off of it.  Once again, the meek shall inherit the Earth.  Our climate is as it should be right now.
Do you know that there are those who say that there are too many people on Earth and they are trying to eliminate about 2/3 of the earth's population to bring in the New World Order?

Our climate is not as it should be right now because man has tampered with the climate too much and it is endangering man and animals and plants and sea life. Man has also polluted the earth and destroyed it in many ways. God says that he will destroy those who destroy the earth. Rev. 11:18



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Hey All, this post is not polished yet.  The quotes don't always get noted correctly as to who they are from.  I'm sleepy now.


My Dear TJ,

You are female, yes?  First, I must say that I do not go to CF, I go to TF.  I used to go to CF years ago.

Also, hon, I do not know how to do this quote/ unquote thing, and will do my best to find a way to get this right, so it will reach you okay.

This will be hard to tell you, but you will all find out soon enough.  We know that man has a vessel for his soul and spirit which is his ‘earthly body.’

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That's because man needs a physical earthly body while here on earth because man is physical.

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Yes, that's why a man needs an earthly body.  He is on Earth.  When he 'dies,' his soul and spirit pops out of his body and he is then spiritual.  What happens next is determined upon whether he goes to Heaven, or his soul rests in the dust of the Earth.  If he goes to Heaven, his soul and spirit will remain alive and free to move as they do in Heaven.  He will be given a star/planet {Venus} to live in, as a usual 'home-base,' but according to what God wants, he can move freely from his home-base and fly around the Heavens as he wants.

Remember that Jesus said He was the bright and morning star, as He received from His Father?  That's Venus.  Further, man can fly very fast in Heaven and is not limited to a slower pace, like when he had legs.  This will be hard to tell you, but you will all find out soon enough.  We know that man has a vessel for his soul and spirit which is his ‘earthly body.’

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That's because man needs a physical earthly body while here on earth because man is physical.

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Yes, that's why a man needs an earthly body.  He is on Earth.  When he 'dies,' his soul and spirit pops out of his body and he is then spiritual.  What is next is determined whether he goes to Heaven, or his soul rests in the dust of the Earth.  If he goes to Heaven, his soul and spirit will remain alive and free to move as they do in Heaven.  He will be given a star/planet {Venus} to live in, as a usual 'home-base,' but according to what God wants, he can move freely from his home-base and fly around the Heavens as he wants,  if it is God's Will.  He can fly very fast and is not limited to a slower pace, like when he had legs.

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Well, for those people who go to Heaven, their souls and spirit will go into a heavenly body, namely a star.  This is why it is written in Daniel 12:3KJV, “And those who turn many to righteousness shall BE as the stars forever and ever.”  The angels are stars giving off holy light, which is of God's Spirit, and they shine brightly.  See the verse I’ve noted above, please.


John was called a lamp because he shined forth light as a lamp but he wasn't a lamp. He was a man. John 5:35
The righteous shine light as the sun but they aren't the sun and never will be. John 13:43
The righteous shine light as the stars but they aren't the stars and never will be. Dan. 12:3

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Now, there are people all over the Earth.  The Lord God Jehovah has a vessel that He dwells in and spends His time in.  Also, John perhaps 'personified' a lamp, just as a candle does, or even Jesus and His disciples, etc.  It is written in Rev. 11:3KJV that the two witnesses who would come in the latter days would be the 'olive trees and candlesticks' before the Lord, as they prophesied for God and Jesus.  Of course, they weren't actual candles or trees.

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God is Spirit and invisible. John 4:24
He doesn't need a physical vessel to dwell in and spend his time in. Even the heaven of heavens cannot contain him.2Chr. 2:6 God is not limited that way. Spirit is not confined by the physical.

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I know that He does not need a vessel.  It is done for the sake of mankind being too simple.  Man has to have something physical to look at and the Lord God feels it best to use the moon as His Seat or Throne, and He will reveal Himself and His Throne before the Lord Jesus returns again.  I know that God's Spirit is everywhere, but He still has a Throne.  Jesus' body was Spirit confined to a physical body, remember?

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Just like it is written, 'Satan, I know where thy seat is.'  Well, the Lord told me that it is the center of the Earth.  Moon, Earth, go figure.  God designed things the way that He did.  Take it up with Him.  God’s Spirit is everywhere throughout the Universe, but His seat right now is what we call our ‘Moon.’  As it is written, "His Great White Throne."

Is the moon heaven? According to scripture His throne is in heaven.Isa. 66:1
It doesn't mention the moon as being His throne. The moon was part of creation. The moon is physical. God is Spirit. His throne is in heaven.[/quote]

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The moon is Not Heaven.  But it is In Heaven, also called the Firmament.  The sun and moon have different uses or reasons for being here.  The sun is the lake of fire.  I would answer the rest that you've said here, but I already have earlier in this post.

The Moon is a heavenly body which is a vessel for the Lord Jehovah {similarly like a satellite, even}.  It travels around the Earth every 24 hours, watching over mankind below.  The Lord God can be advised about the details of mankind in His Journey around the globe and He sees with His Eyes and by His Spirit.  He is also given information by the guardian angels who guide the people below on the Earth.[/Quote]

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God doesn't need a physical vessel to travel in to watch over mankind or to travel around the globe. That limits God. His eyes watch over mankind and examine them from his throne in heaven. John 34:21For His eyes are on the ways of man, and He sees his every step.

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God isn't limited at all, for His Spirit is everywhere and no, His present Throne is what He wants.  I'm not going to disagree with Him.

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Humans are physical and need a physical vessel to travel in. God is not physical like man and He does not need a physical vessel to travel and journey in.

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Of course, He can help anyone at any time whether He is on one side of the Earth or the other.  It is also the Lord Who controls the weather below.  High pressures meeting lows to do what He will here.

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Man also has technology to control weather and man is most certainly using that technology putting all life on earth at risk.

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Man's technology only helps him to do very little, like tell what weather is coming sometimes or perhaps, use silver iodide, etc.  Man cannot cause a tornado, hurricane, roaring waves, earthquakes, tsunamis and most floods to happen.  God has the great power and is in control of it all.  He can leave one house or city undisturbed and demolish the next right beside each other!!

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Do not 'worship' the Moon.  Instead, worship as you have been doing, for THAT is the Spirit of God.  I want to help the people who are unwise about it.  Don't Do It!

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I don't worship the creation. I worship the Creator. Rom. 1:25.{/quote]

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That is the only way to do it.  I'm glad that you feel that way.  I think some people will screw up because they don't know the Lord God well enough.

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The Earth waxes old, and there are too many people on it.  God's intention is to take 2/3 of the inhabitants off of it.  Once again, the meek shall inherit the Earth.  Our climate is as it should be right now.

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Do you know that there are those who say that there are too many people on Earth and they are trying to eliminate about 2/3 of the earth's population to bring in the New World Order?

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There won't be any 'new world order,' so don't fret.  The Lord will cause everything to be done according to His Will.

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Our climate is not as it should be right now because man has tampered with the climate too much and it is endangering man and animals and plants and sea life. Man has also polluted the earth and destroyed it in many ways. God says that he will destroy those who destroy the earth. Rev. 11:18.

[Quote}Our climate is okay, for God knew it would happen a very long time ago.  He is causing great occurrences in the Earth and the Heaven.  He's trying to let people down here know that the latter days are with us and they just think it is 'global warming.'  No matter what He does on Earth, people rationalize it and call it all Mother Nature.  There is no Mother Nature.  There is the Lord who is bringing All of it.  A butterfly evolving from a caterpillar, that is God doing that, not Mother Nature.  The same with great earthquakes or torrential rain and storms.

TJ, I'm sorry I couldn't do a better job than this, but I spent hours on trying to figure out how to do this right.  I don't know how to do 3-quote codes.  I had to give up because I could not figure out how to do it.  I've been working on this for 7 hours, from 1 a.m. to 8 a.m.  I've been up all night.  Gonna hit the hay now.  You have an excellent day.

May God Reside In Your Heart & Mind!!

Michael

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My Dear TJ,

You are female, yes?  First, I must say that I do not go to CF, I go to TF.  I used to go to CF years ago.
I meant to say TF.

Yes, I am female.
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Yes, that's why a man needs an earthly body.  He is on Earth.  When he 'dies,' his soul and spirit pops out of his body and he is then spiritual.  What is next is determined whether he goes to Heaven, or his soul rests in the dust of the Earth.
Yes, I know what happens to a person when they die. My husband went into cardiac arrest and for thirty minutes he had no heart beat and very little to none brain activity and he wasn't getting enough oxygen to his brain. He had a NDE and told me where he went and what happened to him there.

When a person dies their spirit returns to God who gave it. There are different meanings to the word spirit depending on the context as in this example with Jesus.
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into your hands I commend my spirit: and having said this, he gave up the spirit.
Mark 15:37 But Jesus let out a loud cry and breathed His last. He breathed his last breath of life.

Compare Gen. 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Note that it says that man became a living soul not that his soul was a separate thing but that he was a living soul. The breath of life from God made him a living soul.
Also compare Job 33:4 The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Eccl. 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Jesus' spirit or breath of life returned to God who gave it.

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If he goes to Heaven, his soul and spirit will remain alive and free to move as they do in Heaven.
After death a person is no longer a living soul because he no longer has the breath of life.
I believe that after death a person is then spirit but this is another meaning for the word spirit in a different context. In this context, spirit doesn't mean the breath of life because in spirit a person doesn't need the breath of life since they are no longer in the flesh and physical.

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He will be given a star/planet {Venus} to live in, as a usual 'home-base,' but according to what God wants, he can move freely from his home-base and fly around the Heavens as he wants,  if it is God's Will.  He can fly very fast and is not limited to a slower pace, like when he had legs.  This will be hard to tell you, but you will all find out soon enough.  We know that man has a vessel for his soul and spirit which is his ‘earthly body.’

I can think of at least two different religions that teach that when a person dies they live on a planet. Those religions are Mormon and Scientology. Even JWs used to teach that God lived on a planet but later on they stopped teaching that. So this is nothing new that I haven't heard before.
 
Some people have already found out what happens at death and where they go. My husband was one of those people among many others, and he didn't mention anything about being on a planet.

This is my understanding. Thanks for allowing me to express it.
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My Dear TJ,
Remember that Jesus said He was the bright and morning star, as He received from His Father?  That's Venus. Further, man can fly very fast in Heaven and is not limited to a slower pace, like when he had legs.  This will be hard to tell you, but you will all find out soon enough.  We know that man has a vessel for his soul and spirit which is his ‘earthly body.
Are you saying that Jesus is Venus or that Jesus lives on Venus? According to scripture Jesus is in heaven at the right hand of God the Father.
Colossians 3:1 If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.

It might be hard for you to tell me but it isn't hard for me to read.

Man doesn't have a soul. Man is a living soul. Gen. 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

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He will be given a star/planet {Venus} to live in, as a usual 'home-base,' but according to what God wants, he can move freely from his home-base and fly around the Heavens as he wants,  if it is God's Will.  He can fly very fast and is not limited to a slower pace, like when he had legs.
So we go to Venus when we die? Where I'm going doesn't look anything like Venus. Not even close.

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Also, John perhaps 'personified' a lamp, just as a candle does, or even Jesus and His disciples, etc.
Yes, and the same applies to the righteous who shine light as a star. That doesn't mean that they are literally stars or will live on a star any more than John was a literal lamp. The righteous aren't literally stars. The same rule applies.

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I know that He does not need a vessel.  It is done for the sake of mankind being too simple.  Man has to have something physical to look at and the Lord God feels it best to use the moon as His Seat or Throne, and He will reveal Himself and His Throne before the Lord Jesus returns again.  I know that God's Spirit is everywhere, but He still has a Throne.  Jesus' body was Spirit confined to a physical body, remember?
Why would we need something physical to look at? Do we not live by faith and not by sight? I would think that those who lack faith need something physical to look at.

1Pet. 1:8 Though you have not seen Him, you love Him; and though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and rejoice with an inexpressible and glorious joy,
John 4:38 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.
John 20:29 Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

Yes, God has a throne in heaven.

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Just like it is written, 'Satan, I know where thy seat is.'  Well, the Lord told me that it is the center of the Earth.  Moon, Earth, go figure.  God designed things the way that He did.  Take it up with Him.  God’s Spirit is everywhere throughout the Universe, but His seat right now is what we call our ‘Moon.’  As it is written, "His Great White Throne."
Why the moon? Is the moon the only white thing out there? Again, scripture says God's throne is in heaven. It doesn't say it's on the moon. Nowhere in scripture is the moon called heaven. Nowhere in scripture does it say that God's throne is on the moon.

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The Moon is a heavenly body which is a vessel for the Lord Jehovah {similarly like a satellite, even}.  It travels around the Earth every 24 hours, watching over mankind below.  The Lord God can be advised about the details of mankind in His Journey around the globe and He sees with His Eyes and by His Spirit.  He is also given information by the guardian angels who guide the people below on the Earth.

God doesn't need a physical vessel to travel in to watch over mankind or to travel around the globe. That limits God. His eyes watch over mankind and examine them from his throne in heaven.
John 34:21For His eyes are on the ways of man, and He sees his every step.

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God isn't limited at all, for His Spirit is everywhere and no, His present Throne is what He wants.  I'm not going to disagree with Him.
I haven't read anywhere in scripture that God wants his throne on the moon.

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Of course, He can help anyone at any time whether He is on one side of the Earth or the other.  It is also the Lord Who controls the weather below.  High pressures meeting lows to do what He will here.

Man also has technology to control weather and man is most certainly using that technology putting all life on earth at risk.

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Man's technology only helps him to do very little, like tell what weather is coming sometimes or perhaps, use silver iodide, etc.  Man cannot cause a tornado, hurricane, roaring waves, earthquakes, tsunamis and most floods to happen.  God has the great power and is in control of it all.  He can leave one house or city undisturbed and demolish the next right beside each other!!
Man's technology does a lot more than tell what weather is coming. Yes, man can cause a tornado, a hurricane, roaring waves, earthquakes, tsunamis and floods.
These are psychopaths and sociopaths that we're dealing with who do these things. I won't cut them any slack. I call it like I see it. They have the technology to do all these things and they could care less how many people they kill. Their goal is to eliminate the bulk of the world's population. They view us as cockroaches to be exterminated.

Our climate is not as it should be right now because these psychopaths and sociopaths have tampered with the climate too much and it is endangering man and animals and plants and sea life. Man has also polluted the earth and destroyed it in many ways. Have you noticed any chemtrails lately? Do you know what chemtrails do to the climate and environment? Do you know what chemtrails do to people? And that's only one thing they're doing. God says that he will destroy those who destroy the earth. Rev. 11:18.

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Our climate is okay, for God knew it would happen a very long time ago.  He is causing great occurrences in the Earth and the Heaven.  He's trying to let people down here know that the latter days are with us and they just think it is 'global warming.'  No matter what He does on Earth, people rationalize it and call it all Mother Nature.  There is no Mother Nature.  There is the Lord who is bringing All of it.  A butterfly evolving from a caterpillar, that is God doing that, not Mother Nature.  The same with great earthquakes or torrential rain and storms.
I'm not talking about global warming or mother nature. I'm talking about what these evil psychopaths and sociopaths are doing to people and to the earth, to all life on earth.

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My Dear TJ,
Remember that Jesus said He was the bright and morning star, as He received from His Father?  That's Venus. Further, man can fly very fast in Heaven and is not limited to a slower pace, like when he had legs.  This will be hard to tell you, but you will all find out soon enough.  We know that man has a vessel for his soul and spirit which is his ‘earthly body.
Are you saying that Jesus is Venus or that Jesus lives on Venus? According to scripture Jesus is in heaven at the right hand of God the Father.
Colossians 3:1 If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.

It might be hard for you to tell me but it isn't hard for me to read.

Man doesn't have a soul. Man is a living soul. Gen. 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Quote
He will be given a star/planet {Venus} to live in, as a usual 'home-base,' but according to what God wants, he can move freely from his home-base and fly around the Heavens as he wants,  if it is God's Will.  He can fly very fast and is not limited to a slower pace, like when he had legs.
So we go to Venus when we die? Where I'm going doesn't look anything like Venus. Not even close.

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Also, John perhaps 'personified' a lamp, just as a candle does, or even Jesus and His disciples, etc.
Yes, and the same applies to the righteous who shine light as a star. That doesn't mean that they are literally stars or will live on a star any more than John was a literal lamp. The righteous aren't literally stars. The same rule applies.

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I know that He does not need a vessel.  It is done for the sake of mankind being too simple.  Man has to have something physical to look at and the Lord God feels it best to use the moon as His Seat or Throne, and He will reveal Himself and His Throne before the Lord Jesus returns again.  I know that God's Spirit is everywhere, but He still has a Throne.  Jesus' body was Spirit confined to a physical body, remember?
Why would we need something physical to look at? Do we not live by faith and not by sight? I would think that those who lack faith need something physical to look at.

1Pet. 1:8 Though you have not seen Him, you love Him; and though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and rejoice with an inexpressible and glorious joy,
John 4:38 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.
John 20:29 Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

Yes, God has a throne in heaven.

Quote
Just like it is written, 'Satan, I know where thy seat is.'  Well, the Lord told me that it is the center of the Earth.  Moon, Earth, go figure.  God designed things the way that He did.  Take it up with Him.  God’s Spirit is everywhere throughout the Universe, but His seat right now is what we call our ‘Moon.’  As it is written, "His Great White Throne."
Why the moon? Is the moon the only white thing out there? Again, scripture says God's throne is in heaven. It doesn't say it's on the moon. Nowhere in scripture is the moon called heaven. Nowhere in scripture does it say that God's throne is on the moon.

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The Moon is a heavenly body which is a vessel for the Lord Jehovah {similarly like a satellite, even}.  It travels around the Earth every 24 hours, watching over mankind below.  The Lord God can be advised about the details of mankind in His Journey around the globe and He sees with His Eyes and by His Spirit.  He is also given information by the guardian angels who guide the people below on the Earth.

God doesn't need a physical vessel to travel in to watch over mankind or to travel around the globe. That limits God. His eyes watch over mankind and examine them from his throne in heaven.
John 34:21For His eyes are on the ways of man, and He sees his every step.

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God isn't limited at all, for His Spirit is everywhere and no, His present Throne is what He wants.  I'm not going to disagree with Him.
I haven't read anywhere in scripture that God wants his throne on the moon.

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Of course, He can help anyone at any time whether He is on one side of the Earth or the other.  It is also the Lord Who controls the weather below.  High pressures meeting lows to do what He will here.

Man also has technology to control weather and man is most certainly using that technology putting all life on earth at risk.

Quote
Man's technology only helps him to do very little, like tell what weather is coming sometimes or perhaps, use silver iodide, etc.  Man cannot cause a tornado, hurricane, roaring waves, earthquakes, tsunamis and most floods to happen.  God has the great power and is in control of it all.  He can leave one house or city undisturbed and demolish the next right beside each other!!
Man's technology does a lot more than tell what weather is coming. Yes, man can cause a tornado, a hurricane, roaring waves, earthquakes, tsunamis and floods.
These are psychopaths and sociopaths that we're dealing with who do these things. I won't cut them any slack. I call it like I see it. They have the technology to do all these things and they could care less how many people they kill. Their goal is to eliminate the bulk of the world's population. They view us as cockroaches to be exterminated.

Our climate is not as it should be right now because these psychopaths and sociopaths have tampered with the climate too much and it is endangering man and animals and plants and sea life. Man has also polluted the earth and destroyed it in many ways. Have you noticed any chemtrails lately? Do you know what chemtrails do to the climate and environment? Do you know what chemtrails do to people? And that's only one thing they're doing. God says that he will destroy those who destroy the earth. Rev. 11:18.

Quote
Our climate is okay, for God knew it would happen a very long time ago.  He is causing great occurrences in the Earth and the Heaven.  He's trying to let people down here know that the latter days are with us and they just think it is 'global warming.'  No matter what He does on Earth, people rationalize it and call it all Mother Nature.  There is no Mother Nature.  There is the Lord who is bringing All of it.  A butterfly evolving from a caterpillar, that is God doing that, not Mother Nature.  The same with great earthquakes or torrential rain and storms.
I'm not talking about global warming or mother nature. I'm talking about what these evil psychopaths and sociopaths are doing to people and to the earth, to all life on earth.

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Yes, that's why a man needs an earthly body.  He is on Earth.  When he 'dies,' his soul and spirit pops out of his body and he is then spiritual.  What is next is determined whether he goes to Heaven, or his soul rests in the dust of the Earth.
Yes, I know what happens to a person when they die. My husband went into cardiac arrest and for thirty minutes he had no heart beat and very little to none brain activity and he wasn't getting enough oxygen to his brain. He had a NDE and told me where he went and what happened to him there.

When a person dies their spirit returns to God who gave it. There are different meanings to the word spirit depending on the context as in this example with Jesus.
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into your hands I commend my spirit: and having said this, he gave up the spirit.
Mark 15:37 But Jesus let out a loud cry and breathed His last. He breathed his last breath of life.

Compare Gen. 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Note that it says that man became a living soul not that his soul was a separate thing but that he was a living soul. The breath of life from God made him a living soul.
Also compare Job 33:4 The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Eccl. 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Jesus' spirit or breath of life returned to God who gave it.

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If he goes to Heaven, his soul and spirit will remain alive and free to move as they do in Heaven.
After death a person is no longer a living soul because he no longer has the breath of life.
I believe that after death a person is then spirit but this is another meaning for the word spirit in a different context. In this context, spirit doesn't mean the breath of life because in spirit a person doesn't need the breath of life since they are no longer in the flesh and physical.

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He will be given a star/planet {Venus} to live in, as a usual 'home-base,' but according to what God wants, he can move freely from his home-base and fly around the Heavens as he wants,  if it is God's Will.  He can fly very fast and is not limited to a slower pace, like when he had legs.  This will be hard to tell you, but you will all find out soon enough.  We know that man has a vessel for his soul and spirit which is his ‘earthly body.’

I can think of at least two different religions that teach that when a person dies they live on a planet. Those religions are Mormon and Scientology. Even JWs used to teach that God lived on a planet but later on they stopped teaching that. So this is nothing new that I haven't heard before.
 
Some people have already found out what happens at death and where they go. My husband was one of those people among many others, and he didn't mention anything about being on a planet.

This is my understanding. Thanks for allowing me to express it.



Dear truthj,

You are welcome to express yourself Any Time.  Now, TJ, I am going to have to answer all of your post at the end of it because I make a mess of them when I try to go back to your post and my post.  I just don't understand how to do it correctly, but I feel that I am so close.  It don't know how to put in the quote and /quote where they go.

I must tell you that I am surprised that you are saying that a soul does not go to Heaven.  I know that the breath we are given is from God and that we cannot take another breath of oxygen every time we breathe without Him.  It is a gift from God and another one of the things He does for us.  I do understand that the spirit within us is of God.  I do not believe that a soul doesn't go to Heaven, nor lies in the dust of the Earth until the place where it is going is determined.  For those going to Heaven, the soul goes there.  Google it.

I shouldn't have mentioned to you about Venus.  It is too far advanced and must wait until a later time for you.  You must note that Jesus said, "I am the bright and morning star."  See Rev. 22:16KJV, Rev. 2:28KJV.  Venus is the bright and morning star.

Truthj, I don't have all of the answers, but only the things that I was made privy to.  I am glad that your husband had a NDE.  I experienced leaving my body and looking down on it, and believed it would enter back into my body.  It was a calm, peaceful occurrence.  It was quite a revealing experience.

Well, I should get going for now.  It is already after 3:30 a.m. and I have to wait until later to answer another post or two.  Thanks for understanding, dear lady.  It takes me a while to answer each post.  Will chat with you another time.

May Jesus Always Walk With You,

Mike

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I must tell you that I am surprised that you are saying that a soul does not go to Heaven.
I guess that depends on your definition or understanding of what a soul is.

The traditional concept of an immaterial and immortal soul distinct from the body was not found in Judaism before the Babylonian exile, but developed as a result of interaction with Persian and Hellenistic philosophies. Accordingly, the Hebrew word נֶ֫פֶשׁ, nephesh, although translated as "soul" in some older English Bibles, actually has a meaning closer to "living being".

The only Hebrew word traditionally translated "soul" (nephesh) in English language Bibles refers to a living, breathing conscious body, rather than to an immortal soul.

According to Genesis 2:7 God did not make a body and put a soul into it like a letter into an envelope of dust; rather he formed man's body from the dust, then, by breathing divine breath into it, he made the body of dust live, i.e. the dust did not embody a soul, but it became a soul—a whole creature.

The LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath[neshemah] of life; and man became a living[chay] soul.[nephesh] (Genesis 2:7 ]
 
Here and “all through Scripture” a “living soul” denotes a “living person”. This is because, as Brevard Childs writes, in the biblical view, a person “does not have a soul, but is a soul”.

The definition of soul [psūchê] in the New Testament is based on the definition found in the Old Testament. "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul;[psūchê] the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." (1 Corinthians 15:45)

The concept of an immaterial soul separate from and surviving the body is common today but according to modern scholars, it was not found in ancient Hebrew beliefs. The word nephesh never means an immortal soul or an incorporeal part of the human being that can survive death of the body...

The modern scholarly consensus holds that the canonical teaching of the Old Testament made no reference to an immortal soul independent of the body. A wide range of scholarly reference works consistently represent this view.
Many modern theologians reject the view that the Bible teaches the doctrine of the immortal soul,..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_in_the_Bible

A person does not have a soul. A person is a living soul (Genesis 2:7 ). That means a living being that owes life itself to the Creator just as does the animal (Genesis 2:19 ).
https://www.studylight.org/dictionaries/hbd/s/soul.html



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Dear truthjourney,

You've made quite a point and I'm proud of you for searching the Scriptures.  I will tell you how I feel, so please don't be bummed at me.  Before that, how is your week going so far?  What'd you have for dinner last night.  We had baked, spiced chicken/ baked then broiled then to crisp it up, and had a half of chicken for each person, and a side of buttery rice mixed with black beans.  It is called Arroz con Pollo {Rice with Chicken}.  It is a Cuban dish.  It was delicious.

Okay, now we'll get down to the subject at hand.  I believe that those who are dead and not ready to go to Heaven are souls buried in the dirt or sea, or have become ashes from being cremated.  I also believe that Adam had a soul, but when God breathed into him, he became a Living soul.  You might realize that those buried in the ground, etc. are not living souls, but instead are sleeping souls.  When you go to Heaven, your Soul goes there.  It stays alive, too, Forever.  You are a spirit, which was given to you by God, but you still have your soul.

Tons of humans and specialists believe in this.  All you have to do is Google it on your computer.  Go to "Do souls go to Heaven?" or "Do souls die?"  You can find the same thing by typing anything similar in your browser and you will find it.  Your soul and spirit does go to Heaven.  Souls are alive when they go to hell, also.  God created souls that would never die, instead of ones that do.  That's how it goes.  It is why you hear of Souls being dead, going to Heaven, buried in the ground {they are there, yet are sleeping}, souls in the ocean, and the souls in hell.

The souls in men and women, because they are living, can be sleeping if they are buried in the ground or in the sea, and can be alive in Heaven or hell.  Souls don't die.  When God created them, He didn't make them to expire, but to live forever in Heaven or in hell, then the in the lake of fire.  It is written that even some in hell will be judged and may go to Heaven also.  Everyone who is human has a soul.  They only become a LIVING Soul when God causes them to be alive.  Even some in Sodom or Gomorrah will be saved.  It is true, hon.

Don't forget to Google it, TJ.  See Rev. 20:13KJV.  A soul IS a person, breathing or not.  It just becomes a Living soul when God puts His Spirit/ Breath into it.  God's spirit is within everything Living.  He can recall His Spirit when someone dies and is in limbo {sleeping,  not dead}, or in hell.  Those who go to the Lake of Fire are really evil souls who've, by their works and deeds, are worthy of burning eternally, for a soul does not die.  They have to go somewhere, even to be souls in hell or the lake of fire.  But God will that most everyone makes it to Him, and there will be living again before the Second Death.

Please consider what I have to say.  God's Spirit is everywhere.  Within each person, animal, bugs or critters, plants, and yes, even rocks, some who grow crystals inside of them.  There is a lot going on, but whether an animal, even sea creatures, have a soul, I cannot say.  I'm just telling you what I know.  Jesus will rule on the right hand of God, until the Second Death.  I really do not fully know enough about Jesus and Venus, but it will probably be revealed to us later.


I'll get going for now.  You take good care of yourself and your family, and try to be joyful each day.  I know that it is not always easy, especially at a funeral.  But, people should celebrate at a funeral, for the death of that person is still a soul and can live forever, if God so chooses.  The road to Heaven is narrow for those who go there during Jesus' returning.

May God Give You & Your Family His Spirit, Generously!!

Michael
 
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