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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2020, 09:02:12 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYRXop7aPA&list=WL&index=27&t=78s
Controversial.

Yes, it is a sin.. and GOD has placed the whole world under judgement.

Rom 1: 24-25..".Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

Notice the words "gave them up to) for three times you will read this in three different judgements.
This first judgement is about sexuality and the sexual revolution that started sometime in the late 80's to early 90's.  Homo sexuality came out of the closets and hit the streets.

Rom 1:25-26.."For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Again we see the words "gave them up" and again another judgement that began in the early two thousands.... STD's became rampant and the homosexual group was now in full swing. GOD's Bow (rainBOW) a convenant to mankind yet, those who practice homosexuality fly a rainbow colored flag. Is it a sin?

In the final Judgement which started around 2014-15, The final step of letting mankind lose his mind.

Rom 1:28...."And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"   

Here GOD "gave them over to" to

Rom 1:29-31.."Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:"

Are these sins......If you (the reader) thinks NOT, it is because God has "given you over to "; well you have read His words...

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2021, 10:47:38 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYRXop7aPA&list=WL&index=27&t=78s
Controversial.

Yes, it is a sin.. and GOD has placed the whole world under judgement.

Rom 1: 24-25..".Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

Notice the words "gave them up to) for three times you will read this in three different judgements.
This first judgement is about sexuality and the sexual revolution that started sometime in the late 80's to early 90's.  Homo sexuality came out of the closets and hit the streets.

Rom 1:25-26.."For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Again we see the words "gave them up" and again another judgement that began in the early two thousands.... STD's became rampant and the homosexual group was now in full swing. GOD's Bow (rainBOW) a convenant to mankind yet, those who practice homosexuality fly a rainbow colored flag. Is it a sin?

In the final Judgement which started around 2014-15, The final step of letting mankind lose his mind.

Rom 1:28...."And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"   

Here GOD "gave them over to" to

Rom 1:29-31.."Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:"

Are these sins......If you (the reader) thinks NOT, it is because God has "given you over to "; well you have read His words...

Blade



Dear blade,

Please keep this in mind.  I am in no wise claiming that homosexuality is not a sin.  That's been my stand since I began here.  There are many sins that God and Jesus forgives, and they love the sinners in spite of their errors.  Note that Saul, traveling on the road to Damascus, was visited by the Lord, being forgiven of all of the Christians he had killed.  If Jesus forgave him for those killings, you might understand that there are other circumstances that the Lord considers, also.  Paul was a killer of Christians and the woman whom Jesus forgave for adultery was also a sinner.

BR, the Lord has had to forgive a lot of sins in continuing to love us sinners regardless.  We are ALL sinners, except Jesus.  Jesus was sent to the sinners primarily, but also the righteous.  He has forgiven sinners that have stolen, lied to, divorced, and more, but His love remains for anyone who is suffering from these problems or ways.

Wise it is if you can quit from each sin and do the Lord's will.  The Lord does try to show us how He wants us to live, by certain commandments, like thou shall not kill, or steal, bear false witness {lying}, etc.  If the Lord does not show us each sin, we would not know how to not do it {avoid it}.  Can you understand?  We all know that sin is wrong, but first we must know what is sin and what is not.

When Cain slew Abel, he most likely did not know that hitting his brother with a rock would kill him.  He was angry, upset, and didn't know it would make his brother become nonexistent or dead.  If Cain did not do this horrible thing, we would not know what we were not supposed to do, re killing his brother.  Someone had to kill someone to realize what kind of malice it caused.  This all could happen either way, no matter which sin I addressed.  The secret is to hate the sin, but love the sinner.  Jesus taught us to love even our enemies, not necessarily their sins, too.

In the Ten Commandments, God Himself said, "Thou shalt not kill."  It did not come from a disciple or apostle, but instead, God Himself.  Yet it did not stop people to keep from killing others, for the most part.  If a disciple or apostle says to not kill, should we hear it from them first, before God.  In general, if a man does not know what IS a sin, then he will then not know what to keep from doing unless it is at least explained to or shown him, first.

I guess I will just try to quit explaining.  Most of all sins are forgivable.  It is good if it ends with a victory, of course, and a sinner is redeemed/saved.  Jesus loves sinners and the righteous.  Be sure to leave the judging of a soul to God Himself.  It's best that way.  He knows more details about the subject.  He loves us, so God bless you.

MichaelC

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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2021, 09:07:52 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYRXop7aPA&list=WL&index=27&t=78s
Controversial.

Yes, it is a sin.. and GOD has placed the whole world under judgement.

Rom 1: 24-25..".Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

Notice the words "gave them up to) for three times you will read this in three different judgements.
This first judgement is about sexuality and the sexual revolution that started sometime in the late 80's to early 90's.  Homo sexuality came out of the closets and hit the streets.

Rom 1:25-26.."For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Again we see the words "gave them up" and again another judgement that began in the early two thousands.... STD's became rampant and the homosexual group was now in full swing. GOD's Bow (rainBOW) a convenant to mankind yet, those who practice homosexuality fly a rainbow colored flag. Is it a sin?

In the final Judgement which started around 2014-15, The final step of letting mankind lose his mind.

Rom 1:28...."And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"   

Here GOD "gave them over to" to

Rom 1:29-31.."Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:"

Are these sins......If you (the reader) thinks NOT, it is because God has "given you over to "; well you have read His words...

Blade



Dear blade,

Please keep this in mind.  I am in no wise claiming that homosexuality is not a sin.  That's been my stand since I began here.  There are many sins that God and Jesus forgives, and they love the sinners in spite of their errors.  Note that Saul, traveling on the road to Damascus, was visited by the Lord, being forgiven of all of the Christians he had killed.  If Jesus forgave him for those killings, you might understand that there are other circumstances that the Lord considers, also.  Paul was a killer of Christians and the woman whom Jesus forgave for adultery was also a sinner.

BR, the Lord has had to forgive a lot of sins in continuing to love us sinners regardless.  We are ALL sinners, except Jesus.  Jesus was sent to the sinners primarily, but also the righteous.  He has forgiven sinners that have stolen, lied to, divorced, and more, but His love remains for anyone who is suffering from these problems or ways.

Wise it is if you can quit from each sin and do the Lord's will.  The Lord does try to show us how He wants us to live, by certain commandments, like thou shall not kill, or steal, bear false witness {lying}, etc.  If the Lord does not show us each sin, we would not know how to not do it {avoid it}.  Can you understand?  We all know that sin is wrong, but first we must know what is sin and what is not.

When Cain slew Abel, he most likely did not know that hitting his brother with a rock would kill him.  He was angry, upset, and didn't know it would make his brother become nonexistent or dead.  If Cain did not do this horrible thing, we would not know what we were not supposed to do, re killing his brother.  Someone had to kill someone to realize what kind of malice it caused.  This all could happen either way, no matter which sin I addressed.  The secret is to hate the sin, but love the sinner.  Jesus taught us to love even our enemies, not necessarily their sins, too.

In the Ten Commandments, God Himself said, "Thou shalt not kill."  It did not come from a disciple or apostle, but instead, God Himself.  Yet it did not stop people to keep from killing others, for the most part.  If a disciple or apostle says to not kill, should we hear it from them first, before God.  In general, if a man does not know what IS a sin, then he will then not know what to keep from doing unless it is at least explained to or shown him, first.

I guess I will just try to quit explaining.  Most of all sins are forgivable.  It is good if it ends with a victory, of course, and a sinner is redeemed/saved.  Jesus loves sinners and the righteous.  Be sure to leave the judging of a soul to God Himself.  It's best that way.  He knows more details about the subject.  He loves us, so God bless you.

MichaelC

Good evening Michael....Thanks for the info and I agree  and disagree with different parts..  The two parts are Sin and the ten commandments. 

Sin.... I agree sin is in all of us. We lose our ability to chose between sin and Jesus when our bodies die the 1st death. If we have not chosen to Believe in His Gospel (according to scripture), we will be condemned to live eternally away from Him in the Lake of Fire. Therefore the only unforgivable Sin is "Unbelief"

The Ten Commandments.. were KNOWN most likely known long before Exodus was written. It is obvious that Cain and Abel knew about the Sacrifice ritual which is the reason why GOD did not find favor with Cain.

Jesus in the NT repeated seven commandments from the original ten. These were given to us by our Apostle, Paul.  The other three commandments were
ceremonial in nature and with the end of Laws of Moses, they could not be properly followed.

It is good to converse with you my friend...Pray you have a very blessed week.

Blade



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Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2021, 12:28:12 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYRXop7aPA&list=WL&index=27&t=78s
Controversial.

Yes, it is a sin.. and GOD has placed the whole world under judgement.

Rom 1: 24-25..".Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

Notice the words "gave them up to) for three times you will read this in three different judgements.
This first judgement is about sexuality and the sexual revolution that started sometime in the late 80's to early 90's.  Homo sexuality came out of the closets and hit the streets.

Rom 1:25-26.."For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Again we see the words "gave them up" and again another judgement that began in the early two thousands.... STD's became rampant and the homosexual group was now in full swing. GOD's Bow (rainBOW) a convenant to mankind yet, those who practice homosexuality fly a rainbow colored flag. Is it a sin?

In the final Judgement which started around 2014-15, The final step of letting mankind lose his mind.

Rom 1:28...."And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"   

Here GOD "gave them over to" to

Rom 1:29-31.."Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:"

Are these sins......If you (the reader) thinks NOT, it is because God has "given you over to "; well you have read His words...

Blade



Dear blade,

Please keep this in mind.  I am in no wise claiming that homosexuality is not a sin.  That's been my stand since I began here.  There are many sins that God and Jesus forgives, and they love the sinners in spite of their errors.  Note that Saul, traveling on the road to Damascus, was visited by the Lord, being forgiven of all of the Christians he had killed.  If Jesus forgave him for those killings, you might understand that there are other circumstances that the Lord considers, also.  Paul was a killer of Christians and the woman whom Jesus forgave for adultery was also a sinner.

BR, the Lord has had to forgive a lot of sins in continuing to love us sinners regardless.  We are ALL sinners, except Jesus.  Jesus was sent to the sinners primarily, but also the righteous.  He has forgiven sinners that have stolen, lied to, divorced, and more, but His love remains for anyone who is suffering from these problems or ways.

Wise it is if you can quit from each sin and do the Lord's will.  The Lord does try to show us how He wants us to live, by certain commandments, like thou shall not kill, or steal, bear false witness {lying}, etc.  If the Lord does not show us each sin, we would not know how to not do it {avoid it}.  Can you understand?  We all know that sin is wrong, but first we must know what is sin and what is not.

When Cain slew Abel, he most likely did not know that hitting his brother with a rock would kill him.  He was angry, upset, and didn't know it would make his brother become nonexistent or dead.  If Cain did not do this horrible thing, we would not know what we were not supposed to do, re killing his brother.  Someone had to kill someone to realize what kind of malice it caused.  This all could happen either way, no matter which sin I addressed.  The secret is to hate the sin, but love the sinner.  Jesus taught us to love even our enemies, not necessarily their sins, too.

In the Ten Commandments, God Himself said, "Thou shalt not kill."  It did not come from a disciple or apostle, but instead, God Himself.  Yet it did not stop people to keep from killing others, for the most part.  If a disciple or apostle says to not kill, should we hear it from them first, before God.  In general, if a man does not know what IS a sin, then he will then not know what to keep from doing unless it is at least explained to or shown him, first.

I guess I will just try to quit explaining.  Most of all sins are forgivable.  It is good if it ends with a victory, of course, and a sinner is redeemed/saved.  Jesus loves sinners and the righteous.  Be sure to leave the judging of a soul to God Himself.  It's best that way.  He knows more details about the subject.  He loves us, so God bless you.

MichaelC

Good evening Michael....Thanks for the info and I agree  and disagree with different parts..  The two parts are Sin and the ten commandments. 

Sin.... I agree sin is in all of us. We lose our ability to chose between sin and Jesus when our bodies die the 1st death. If we have not chosen to Believe in His Gospel (according to scripture), we will be condemned to live eternally away from Him in the Lake of Fire. Therefore the only unforgivable Sin is "Unbelief"

The Ten Commandments.. were KNOWN most likely known long before Exodus was written. It is obvious that Cain and Abel knew about the Sacrifice ritual which is the reason why GOD did not find favor with Cain.

Jesus in the NT repeated seven commandments from the original ten. These were given to us by our Apostle, Paul.  The other three commandments were
ceremonial in nature and with the end of Laws of Moses, they could not be properly followed.

It is good to converse with you my friend...Pray you have a very blessed week.

Blade


Dear Blade,

Hey Buddy,

Thanks for your pleasant reply.  I don't usually get time to respond this soon, but I've got a dentist appt. after this, so I had to get up early.  I wonder if blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is not the most unforgivable sin.  Disbelief is a real bummer and you can't really get much taught to you because of it.

So, did Cain actually know what he was doing when he struck Abel with a rock and killed him.  Get back to me and let me know more about it.

Dying the first death is dying during this next resurrection, as far as I know.  Dying the second death is after this first resurrection to come when Jesus returns for us.  If you are taken during the first resurrection, you don't have to be concerned with the 2nd.

It was made known to me that the meek shall inherit the Earth after this 1st resurrection and they will populate the Earth one last time.  Note that the 'rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were fulfilled.'  During those thousand years, those who die during this 1st resurrection will rule with Jesus over the people still on Earth.  See Rev. 20:5KJV.

From what I understand, the 2nd death will culminate with the lack of our present Earth and a new Earth provided.  See Rev. 21:1.  There will be a new Heaven and no sea.  As far as I know, there will be a great explosion, possibly of the sun, and it shall dissolve the elements.  I don't know too much about it because God doesn't tell me things that can wait until some other time later.  I have had enough to deal with and it has often not been easy.  There will be two nations:  Gog & Magog.

Blade, you are one of the closest of friends that I know here on FEF.  I would love to be on this forum a lot more often, but so far, I have been having tasks and medical predicaments that keep me busy.  It now takes me a long time just to do a load of laundry.  I was in the hospital for 2 months at once and I only weigh 124 lbs. now.  Perhaps it's soon time to give up the ghost.  Only God knows when.  I used to weigh 173 lbs. a while back.  I'm glad to lose some weight, but Whoa!

If the Lord had not visited me often, I would not know all of the things that I've learned from Him.  I have had a few overwhelming visions also, but they were worth it.  I knew about the CA fires back in 1982.  Now, that was a tremendous vision -- not the most pleasant, but the most heavy.  I saw a great, massive earthquake after the brush fires burned there for quite a while.  It is written about in my book which was published in 1999.  I'd best shut up now and get going.

May Jesus Hold Your Hands & Heart.  Looking forward until we speak again.

With Much Love For A Wonderful Brethren,

MichaelC
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2021, 08:58:01 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYRXop7aPA&list=WL&index=27&t=78s
Controversial.

Yes, it is a sin.. and GOD has placed the whole world under judgement.

Rom 1: 24-25..".Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

Notice the words "gave them up to) for three times you will read this in three different judgements.
This first judgement is about sexuality and the sexual revolution that started sometime in the late 80's to early 90's.  Homo sexuality came out of the closets and hit the streets.

Rom 1:25-26.."For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Again we see the words "gave them up" and again another judgement that began in the early two thousands.... STD's became rampant and the homosexual group was now in full swing. GOD's Bow (rainBOW) a convenant to mankind yet, those who practice homosexuality fly a rainbow colored flag. Is it a sin?

In the final Judgement which started around 2014-15, The final step of letting mankind lose his mind.

Rom 1:28...."And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"   

Here GOD "gave them over to" to

Rom 1:29-31.."Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:"

Are these sins......If you (the reader) thinks NOT, it is because God has "given you over to "; well you have read His words...

Blade



Dear blade,

Please keep this in mind.  I am in no wise claiming that homosexuality is not a sin.  That's been my stand since I began here.  There are many sins that God and Jesus forgives, and they love the sinners in spite of their errors.  Note that Saul, traveling on the road to Damascus, was visited by the Lord, being forgiven of all of the Christians he had killed.  If Jesus forgave him for those killings, you might understand that there are other circumstances that the Lord considers, also.  Paul was a killer of Christians and the woman whom Jesus forgave for adultery was also a sinner.

BR, the Lord has had to forgive a lot of sins in continuing to love us sinners regardless.  We are ALL sinners, except Jesus.  Jesus was sent to the sinners primarily, but also the righteous.  He has forgiven sinners that have stolen, lied to, divorced, and more, but His love remains for anyone who is suffering from these problems or ways.

Wise it is if you can quit from each sin and do the Lord's will.  The Lord does try to show us how He wants us to live, by certain commandments, like thou shall not kill, or steal, bear false witness {lying}, etc.  If the Lord does not show us each sin, we would not know how to not do it {avoid it}.  Can you understand?  We all know that sin is wrong, but first we must know what is sin and what is not.

When Cain slew Abel, he most likely did not know that hitting his brother with a rock would kill him.  He was angry, upset, and didn't know it would make his brother become nonexistent or dead.  If Cain did not do this horrible thing, we would not know what we were not supposed to do, re killing his brother.  Someone had to kill someone to realize what kind of malice it caused.  This all could happen either way, no matter which sin I addressed.  The secret is to hate the sin, but love the sinner.  Jesus taught us to love even our enemies, not necessarily their sins, too.

In the Ten Commandments, God Himself said, "Thou shalt not kill."  It did not come from a disciple or apostle, but instead, God Himself.  Yet it did not stop people to keep from killing others, for the most part.  If a disciple or apostle says to not kill, should we hear it from them first, before God.  In general, if a man does not know what IS a sin, then he will then not know what to keep from doing unless it is at least explained to or shown him, first.

I guess I will just try to quit explaining.  Most of all sins are forgivable.  It is good if it ends with a victory, of course, and a sinner is redeemed/saved.  Jesus loves sinners and the righteous.  Be sure to leave the judging of a soul to God Himself.  It's best that way.  He knows more details about the subject.  He loves us, so God bless you.

MichaelC

Good evening Michael....Thanks for the info and I agree  and disagree with different parts..  The two parts are Sin and the ten commandments. 

Sin.... I agree sin is in all of us. We lose our ability to chose between sin and Jesus when our bodies die the 1st death. If we have not chosen to Believe in His Gospel (according to scripture), we will be condemned to live eternally away from Him in the Lake of Fire. Therefore the only unforgivable Sin is "Unbelief"

The Ten Commandments.. were KNOWN most likely known long before Exodus was written. It is obvious that Cain and Abel knew about the Sacrifice ritual which is the reason why GOD did not find favor with Cain.

Jesus in the NT repeated seven commandments from the original ten. These were given to us by our Apostle, Paul.  The other three commandments were
ceremonial in nature and with the end of Laws of Moses, they could not be properly followed.

It is good to converse with you my friend...Pray you have a very blessed week.

Blade

Dear Blade,

Hey Buddy,

Thanks for your pleasant reply.  I don't usually get time to respond this soon, but I've got a dentist appt. after this, so I had to get up early.  I wonder if blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is not the most unforgivable sin.  Disbelief is a real bummer and you can't really get much taught to you because of it.

I stand corrected..according to Mat 12:31.."Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."

Yet without unbelief, blasphemy would not be possible!


So, did Cain actually know what he was doing when he struck Abel with a rock and killed him.  Get back to me and let me know more about it.

I am sure that Cain knows what killing was. Yet, His jealousy was great because GOD chose Abel's offering over his......did He really know what He was doing or did unrestrained evil take over?

I will say this; I believe that we will see Cain in Heaven when we get there!


Dying the first death is dying during this next resurrection, as far as I know.  Dying the second death is after this first resurrection to come when Jesus returns for us.  If you are taken during the first resurrection, you don't have to be concerned with the 2nd.

It was made known to me that the meek shall inherit the Earth after this 1st resurrection and they will populate the Earth one last time.  Note that the 'rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were fulfilled.'  During those thousand years, those who die during this 1st resurrection will rule with Jesus over the people still on Earth.  See Rev. 20:5KJV.

The first resurrection ended at the beginning of the millennium. Rev 20:5.."But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."

From what I understand, the 2nd death will culminate with the lack of our present Earth and a new Earth provided.  See Rev. 21:1.  There will be a new Heaven and no sea.  As far as I know, there will be a great explosion, possibly of the sun, and it shall dissolve the elements.  I don't know too much about it because God doesn't tell me things that can wait until some other time later.  I have had enough to deal with and it has often not been easy.  There will be two nations:  Gog & Magog.

Blade, you are one of the closest of friends that I know here on FEF.  I would love to be on this forum a lot more often, but so far, I have been having tasks and medical predicaments that keep me busy.  It now takes me a long time just to do a load of laundry.  I was in the hospital for 2 months at once and I only weigh 124 lbs. now.  Perhaps it's soon time to give up the ghost.  Only God knows when.  I used to weigh 173 lbs. a while back.  I'm glad to lose some weight, but Whoa!

If the Lord had not visited me often, I would not know all of the things that I've learned from Him.  I have had a few overwhelming visions also, but they were worth it.  I knew about the CA fires back in 1982.  Now, that was a tremendous vision -- not the most pleasant, but the most heavy.  I saw a great, massive earthquake after the brush fires burned there for quite a while.  It is written about in my book which was published in 1999.  I'd best shut up now and get going.

May Jesus Hold Your Hands & Heart.  Looking forward until we speak again.

With Much Love For A Wonderful Brethren,

MichaelC

Thank youi Michael for the conversation.

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2021, 10:30:11 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYRXop7aPA&list=WL&index=27&t=78s
Controversial.

Yes, it is a sin.. and GOD has placed the whole world under judgement.

Rom 1: 24-25..".Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

Notice the words "gave them up to) for three times you will read this in three different judgements.
This first judgement is about sexuality and the sexual revolution that started sometime in the late 80's to early 90's.  Homo sexuality came out of the closets and hit the streets.

Rom 1:25-26.."For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Again we see the words "gave them up" and again another judgement that began in the early two thousands.... STD's became rampant and the homosexual group was now in full swing. GOD's Bow (rainBOW) a convenant to mankind yet, those who practice homosexuality fly a rainbow colored flag. Is it a sin?

In the final Judgement which started around 2014-15, The final step of letting mankind lose his mind.

Rom 1:28...."And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"   

Here GOD "gave them over to" to

Rom 1:29-31.."Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:"

Are these sins......If you (the reader) thinks NOT, it is because God has "given you over to "; well you have read His words...

Blade



Dear blade,

Please keep this in mind.  I am in no wise claiming that homosexuality is not a sin.  That's been my stand since I began here.  There are many sins that God and Jesus forgives, and they love the sinners in spite of their errors.  Note that Saul, traveling on the road to Damascus, was visited by the Lord, being forgiven of all of the Christians he had killed.  If Jesus forgave him for those killings, you might understand that there are other circumstances that the Lord considers, also.  Paul was a killer of Christians and the woman whom Jesus forgave for adultery was also a sinner.

BR, the Lord has had to forgive a lot of sins in continuing to love us sinners regardless.  We are ALL sinners, except Jesus.  Jesus was sent to the sinners primarily, but also the righteous.  He has forgiven sinners that have stolen, lied to, divorced, and more, but His love remains for anyone who is suffering from these problems or ways.

Wise it is if you can quit from each sin and do the Lord's will.  The Lord does try to show us how He wants us to live, by certain commandments, like thou shall not kill, or steal, bear false witness {lying}, etc.  If the Lord does not show us each sin, we would not know how to not do it {avoid it}.  Can you understand?  We all know that sin is wrong, but first we must know what is sin and what is not.

When Cain slew Abel, he most likely did not know that hitting his brother with a rock would kill him.  He was angry, upset, and didn't know it would make his brother become nonexistent or dead.  If Cain did not do this horrible thing, we would not know what we were not supposed to do, re killing his brother.  Someone had to kill someone to realize what kind of malice it caused.  This all could happen either way, no matter which sin I addressed.  The secret is to hate the sin, but love the sinner.  Jesus taught us to love even our enemies, not necessarily their sins, too.

In the Ten Commandments, God Himself said, "Thou shalt not kill."  It did not come from a disciple or apostle, but instead, God Himself.  Yet it did not stop people to keep from killing others, for the most part.  If a disciple or apostle says to not kill, should we hear it from them first, before God.  In general, if a man does not know what IS a sin, then he will then not know what to keep from doing unless it is at least explained to or shown him, first.

I guess I will just try to quit explaining.  Most of all sins are forgivable.  It is good if it ends with a victory, of course, and a sinner is redeemed/saved.  Jesus loves sinners and the righteous.  Be sure to leave the judging of a soul to God Himself.  It's best that way.  He knows more details about the subject.  He loves us, so God bless you.

MichaelC

Good evening Michael....Thanks for the info and I agree  and disagree with different parts..  The two parts are Sin and the ten commandments. 

Sin.... I agree sin is in all of us. We lose our ability to chose between sin and Jesus when our bodies die the 1st death. If we have not chosen to Believe in His Gospel (according to scripture), we will be condemned to live eternally away from Him in the Lake of Fire. Therefore the only unforgivable Sin is "Unbelief"

The Ten Commandments.. were KNOWN most likely known long before Exodus was written. It is obvious that Cain and Abel knew about the Sacrifice ritual which is the reason why GOD did not find favor with Cain.

Jesus in the NT repeated seven commandments from the original ten. These were given to us by our Apostle, Paul.  The other three commandments were
ceremonial in nature and with the end of Laws of Moses, they could not be properly followed.

It is good to converse with you my friend...Pray you have a very blessed week.

Blade

Dear Blade,

Hey Buddy,

Thanks for your pleasant reply.  I don't usually get time to respond this soon, but I've got a dentist appt. after this, so I had to get up early.  I wonder if blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is not the most unforgivable sin.  Disbelief is a real bummer and you can't really get much taught to you because of it.

I stand corrected..according to Mat 12:31.."Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."

Yet without unbelief, blasphemy would not be possible!


So, did Cain actually know what he was doing when he struck Abel with a rock and killed him.  Get back to me and let me know more about it.

I am sure that Cain knows what killing was. Yet, His jealousy was great because GOD chose Abel's offering over his......did He really know what He was doing or did unrestrained evil take over?

I will say this; I believe that we will see Cain in Heaven when we get there!


Dying the first death is dying during this next resurrection, as far as I know.  Dying the second death is after this first resurrection to come when Jesus returns for us.  If you are taken during the first resurrection, you don't have to be concerned with the 2nd.

It was made known to me that the meek shall inherit the Earth after this 1st resurrection and they will populate the Earth one last time.  Note that the 'rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were fulfilled.'  During those thousand years, those who die during this 1st resurrection will rule with Jesus over the people still on Earth.  See Rev. 20:5KJV.

The first resurrection ended at the beginning of the millennium. Rev 20:5.."But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."

From what I understand, the 2nd death will culminate with the lack of our present Earth and a new Earth provided.  See Rev. 21:1.  There will be a new Heaven and no sea.  As far as I know, there will be a great explosion, possibly of the sun, and it shall dissolve the elements.  I don't know too much about it because God doesn't tell me things that can wait until some other time later.  I have had enough to deal with and it has often not been easy.  There will be two nations:  Gog & Magog.

Blade, you are one of the closest of friends that I know here on FEF.  I would love to be on this forum a lot more often, but so far, I have been having tasks and medical predicaments that keep me busy.  It now takes me a long time just to do a load of laundry.  I was in the hospital for 2 months at once and I only weigh 124 lbs. now.  Perhaps it's soon time to give up the ghost.  Only God knows when.  I used to weigh 173 lbs. a while back.  I'm glad to lose some weight, but Whoa!

If the Lord had not visited me often, I would not know all of the things that I've learned from Him.  I have had a few overwhelming visions also, but they were worth it.  I knew about the CA fires back in 1982.  Now, that was a tremendous vision -- not the most pleasant, but the most heavy.  I saw a great, massive earthquake after the brush fires burned there for quite a while.  It is written about in my book which was published in 1999.  I'd best shut up now and get going.

May Jesus Hold Your Hands & Heart.  Looking forward until we speak again.

With Much Love For A Wonderful Brethren,

MichaelC

Thank you Michael for the conversation.

Blade


Oh Blade,

I don't know what to tell you.  The first resurrection happens when the Lord Jesus raises up the elect into the sky or Heaven during the last days and they are seen by many.  The 1st resurrection happens before the 1,000 years that Christ will reign.  See Rev. 4-6KJV.  A resurrection means some one or more is raised up to Heaven.  God {Jehovah/ Yahweh} is reigning now.  Jesus will reign after Armageddon for 1,000 years.  The Lord God said to the Lord Jesus, 'Sit thou on my right hand until I make your enemies become your footstool.'

Google the word 'resurrection.'  It is that time when Christ returns to the Earth for the Rapture.  The first.  Those who take part in the 1st need not worry about the '2nd death' because they are already judged and saved, whereas those who are not judged and saved yet have to wait until this 2nd death to find out if they are saved after God judges them.  See Rev. 20:13.

The elect can not be deceived during the Last Days.  The elect are those who are predetermined to be saved and they are raised to Heaven first.  The 1st resurrection written of in Rev. 20:5 is not referring to the initial raising of Christ right after His death on the cross. 

How else could the millennium's beginning have to deal with those who did not receive the mark of the beast Rev. 20:4KJV.  That is during the last days, not the 1st millennium.  When Jesus first was resurrected on Easter, it was not during the time that some were supposed to avoid the mark of the beast.

Satan shall be let loose again after the thousand years were fulfilled {See Rev. 20:2KJV}.  The beginning of the 1st millennium is not the same time as during the latter days 2,000 years later.  It refers to 1,000 years after Christ was on Earth.  Satan shall go out to deceive the nations of Gog and Magog.  They aren't established until after Jesus' second coming.

Have I explained this well enough so that you can see what I mean?  Let me know and I will try harder to convince you, if necessary.  I do know what Google says.  This is sort of a tough one, I must admit.  If you can't agree with me, BR, then that is fine.  Just tell me that you feel or think differently about it.  I will not bite your head off, of course.  I do suppose there are others who may interpret it the way that you do.  No big deal really, for we shall find out later in Heaven.  These things are written so that Satan and other evil people will not understand.

I'll get going for now.  May you rest your head on the Lord God's shoulder!

MichaelC

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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2021, 10:39:22 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYRXop7aPA&list=WL&index=27&t=78s
Controversial.

Yes, it is a sin.. and GOD has placed the whole world under judgement.

Rom 1: 24-25..".Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

Notice the words "gave them up to) for three times you will read this in three different judgements.
This first judgement is about sexuality and the sexual revolution that started sometime in the late 80's to early 90's.  Homo sexuality came out of the closets and hit the streets.

Rom 1:25-26.."For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Again we see the words "gave them up" and again another judgement that began in the early two thousands.... STD's became rampant and the homosexual group was now in full swing. GOD's Bow (rainBOW) a convenant to mankind yet, those who practice homosexuality fly a rainbow colored flag. Is it a sin?

In the final Judgement which started around 2014-15, The final step of letting mankind lose his mind.

Rom 1:28...."And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"   

Here GOD "gave them over to" to

Rom 1:29-31.."Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:"

Are these sins......If you (the reader) thinks NOT, it is because God has "given you over to "; well you have read His words...

Blade



Dear blade,

Please keep this in mind.  I am in no wise claiming that homosexuality is not a sin.  That's been my stand since I began here.  There are many sins that God and Jesus forgives, and they love the sinners in spite of their errors.  Note that Saul, traveling on the road to Damascus, was visited by the Lord, being forgiven of all of the Christians he had killed.  If Jesus forgave him for those killings, you might understand that there are other circumstances that the Lord considers, also.  Paul was a killer of Christians and the woman whom Jesus forgave for adultery was also a sinner.

BR, the Lord has had to forgive a lot of sins in continuing to love us sinners regardless.  We are ALL sinners, except Jesus.  Jesus was sent to the sinners primarily, but also the righteous.  He has forgiven sinners that have stolen, lied to, divorced, and more, but His love remains for anyone who is suffering from these problems or ways.

Wise it is if you can quit from each sin and do the Lord's will.  The Lord does try to show us how He wants us to live, by certain commandments, like thou shall not kill, or steal, bear false witness {lying}, etc.  If the Lord does not show us each sin, we would not know how to not do it {avoid it}.  Can you understand?  We all know that sin is wrong, but first we must know what is sin and what is not.

When Cain slew Abel, he most likely did not know that hitting his brother with a rock would kill him.  He was angry, upset, and didn't know it would make his brother become nonexistent or dead.  If Cain did not do this horrible thing, we would not know what we were not supposed to do, re killing his brother.  Someone had to kill someone to realize what kind of malice it caused.  This all could happen either way, no matter which sin I addressed.  The secret is to hate the sin, but love the sinner.  Jesus taught us to love even our enemies, not necessarily their sins, too.

In the Ten Commandments, God Himself said, "Thou shalt not kill."  It did not come from a disciple or apostle, but instead, God Himself.  Yet it did not stop people to keep from killing others, for the most part.  If a disciple or apostle says to not kill, should we hear it from them first, before God.  In general, if a man does not know what IS a sin, then he will then not know what to keep from doing unless it is at least explained to or shown him, first.

I guess I will just try to quit explaining.  Most of all sins are forgivable.  It is good if it ends with a victory, of course, and a sinner is redeemed/saved.  Jesus loves sinners and the righteous.  Be sure to leave the judging of a soul to God Himself.  It's best that way.  He knows more details about the subject.  He loves us, so God bless you.

MichaelC

Good evening Michael....Thanks for the info and I agree  and disagree with different parts..  The two parts are Sin and the ten commandments. 

Sin.... I agree sin is in all of us. We lose our ability to chose between sin and Jesus when our bodies die the 1st death. If we have not chosen to Believe in His Gospel (according to scripture), we will be condemned to live eternally away from Him in the Lake of Fire. Therefore the only unforgivable Sin is "Unbelief"

The Ten Commandments.. were KNOWN most likely known long before Exodus was written. It is obvious that Cain and Abel knew about the Sacrifice ritual which is the reason why GOD did not find favor with Cain.

Jesus in the NT repeated seven commandments from the original ten. These were given to us by our Apostle, Paul.  The other three commandments were
ceremonial in nature and with the end of Laws of Moses, they could not be properly followed.

It is good to converse with you my friend...Pray you have a very blessed week.

Blade

Dear Blade,

Hey Buddy,

Thanks for your pleasant reply.  I don't usually get time to respond this soon, but I've got a dentist appt. after this, so I had to get up early.  I wonder if blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is not the most unforgivable sin.  Disbelief is a real bummer and you can't really get much taught to you because of it.

I stand corrected..according to Mat 12:31.."Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."

Yet without unbelief, blasphemy would not be possible!


So, did Cain actually know what he was doing when he struck Abel with a rock and killed him.  Get back to me and let me know more about it.

I am sure that Cain knows what killing was. Yet, His jealousy was great because GOD chose Abel's offering over his......did He really know what He was doing or did unrestrained evil take over?

I will say this; I believe that we will see Cain in Heaven when we get there!


Dying the first death is dying during this next resurrection, as far as I know.  Dying the second death is after this first resurrection to come when Jesus returns for us.  If you are taken during the first resurrection, you don't have to be concerned with the 2nd.

It was made known to me that the meek shall inherit the Earth after this 1st resurrection and they will populate the Earth one last time.  Note that the 'rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were fulfilled.'  During those thousand years, those who die during this 1st resurrection will rule with Jesus over the people still on Earth.  See Rev. 20:5KJV.

The first resurrection ended at the beginning of the millennium. Rev 20:5.."But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."

From what I understand, the 2nd death will culminate with the lack of our present Earth and a new Earth provided.  See Rev. 21:1.  There will be a new Heaven and no sea.  As far as I know, there will be a great explosion, possibly of the sun, and it shall dissolve the elements.  I don't know too much about it because God doesn't tell me things that can wait until some other time later.  I have had enough to deal with and it has often not been easy.  There will be two nations:  Gog & Magog.

Blade, you are one of the closest of friends that I know here on FEF.  I would love to be on this forum a lot more often, but so far, I have been having tasks and medical predicaments that keep me busy.  It now takes me a long time just to do a load of laundry.  I was in the hospital for 2 months at once and I only weigh 124 lbs. now.  Perhaps it's soon time to give up the ghost.  Only God knows when.  I used to weigh 173 lbs. a while back.  I'm glad to lose some weight, but Whoa!

If the Lord had not visited me often, I would not know all of the things that I've learned from Him.  I have had a few overwhelming visions also, but they were worth it.  I knew about the CA fires back in 1982.  Now, that was a tremendous vision -- not the most pleasant, but the most heavy.  I saw a great, massive earthquake after the brush fires burned there for quite a while.  It is written about in my book which was published in 1999.  I'd best shut up now and get going.

May Jesus Hold Your Hands & Heart.  Looking forward until we speak again.

With Much Love For A Wonderful Brethren,

MichaelC

Thank you Michael for the conversation.

Blade

Oh Blade,

I don't know what to tell you.  The first resurrection happens when the Lord Jesus raises up the elect into the sky or Heaven during the last days and they are seen by many.  The 1st resurrection happens before the 1,000 years that Christ will reign.  See Rev. 4-6KJV.  A resurrection means some one or more is raised up to Heaven.  God {Jehovah/ Yahweh} is reigning now.  Jesus will reign after Armageddon for 1,000 years.  The Lord God said to the Lord Jesus, 'Sit thou on my right hand until I make your enemies become your footstool.'

Hi Michael...The 1st resurrection would include His Church (body of Christ)and will culminate in the removal of all those believers during the Rapture. Yes, Jesus will reign 1,000 years after Daniel's 70 th week has been completed



Google the word 'resurrection.'  It is that time when Christ returns to the Earth for the Rapture.  The first.  Those who take part in the 1st need not worry about the '2nd death' because they are already judged and saved, whereas those who are not judged and saved yet have to wait until this 2nd death to find out if they are saved after God judges them.  See Rev. 20:13.

The elect can not be deceived during the Last Days.  The elect are those who are predetermined to be saved and they are raised to Heaven first.  The 1st resurrection written of in Rev. 20:5 is not referring to the initial raising of Christ right after His death on the cross.

I agree with you on the deceiving part however, the elect were not all taken at the Rapture. There were many elect left behind (I believe) who will become the Tribulation Saints. These Saints are also of the 1st Resurrection which ends right before the Great Tribulation (the 2nd half of Daniel's 70th week). For at this time there will be no believers left on earth including the 144,000 Jewish Evangelist. I might add, it is apparent the 144,000 and the tribulation saints will have to die in their faith of Jesus. Rev 20:4

The 1st resurrection did indeed begin with the initial resurrection of Jesus Christ. The Church, 144,000 and the Tribulations Saints will be considered in the 1st Resurrection.
 




How else could the millennium's beginning have to deal with those who did not receive the mark of the beast Rev. 20:4KJV.  That is during the last days, not the 1st millennium.  When Jesus first was resurrected on Easter, it was not during the time that some were supposed to avoid the mark of the beast.

When Jesus was resurrected it is considered the 1st resurrection. In fact, I believe the 144,000 Jewish evangelist may also have been resurrected during this time. We know that those in Abram's Bosom (Old Testament Saints) were take to heaven (Paradise) to await the Rapture.  This would include the Apostles as well.

After the 144,000 and Tribulation saints are removed from the earth, there are no believers remaining on earth and the "Bowels"/ "Vials are yet to come.  Those who survive (some in all nations)will be the Gentiles that will live during the Millennium. Of course, those who Jewish believers who fled Judah during the Abomination of Abomination will also live and rule Israel during the Millennium.




Satan shall be let loose again after the thousand years were fulfilled {See Rev. 20:2KJV}.  The beginning of the 1st millennium is not the same time as during the latter days 2,000 years later.  It refers to 1,000 years after Christ was on Earth.  Satan shall go out to deceive the nations of Gog and Magog.  They aren't established until after Jesus' second coming.

The beginning of the millennium or the 1,000 years of Jesus Christ's (physical) Reign on earth will indeed begin soon. The previous 2,000 years after the resurrection of Christ should not be considered any part of the Millennium.



Have I explained this well enough so that you can see what I mean?  Let me know and I will try harder to convince you, if necessary.  I do know what Google says.  This is sort of a tough one, I must admit.  If you can't agree with me, BR, then that is fine.  Just tell me that you feel or think differently about it.  I will not bite your head off, of course.  I do suppose there are others who may interpret it the way that you do.  No big deal really, for we shall find out later in Heaven.  These things are written so that Satan and other evil people will not understand.

I'll get going for now.  May you rest your head on the Lord God's shoulder!

MichaelC

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MichaelC, you have explained thing very well and Yes, we will find the truth out in Heaven. May God Bless you Michael. good evening to you.



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Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2021, 01:14:59 pm »
THis has been a very excellent discussion.  Thank you both for all the information and viewpoints you have posted.   I have learned from this.
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« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2021, 08:28:00 pm »
THis has been a very excellent discussion.  Thank you both for all the information and viewpoints you have posted.   I have learned from this.

Hi Mark , Yes Michael always has many interesting points.

Have a great evening....won't be long before it is too hot to sit outside and listen to the wonderful sounds of creation.
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Re: Homosexuality - Is it a Sin?
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2021, 02:54:37 am »
Dear Blade {& Chaplain Mark},

I want to jot a note to you both to clarify that you should love each other as you love yourselves, for Jesus taught us to do that.  This does not mean that you should love their sins and take them to be your own, also.  Jesus did not tell Paul that He was going to kill some Christians, too, like he {Paul} had done, just because He forgave him.

Homosexuals should be forgiven; thieves, and adulterers, yes, but don't become totally like them just because you should love them.  Do you know what I mean here??  Anal intercourse is not the answer here whatsoever, and I would be inclined to stay away from oral intercourse, too.  One might lead to another.

I love man very much, but not having sex with them.  I put myself in their shoes, and can know what they are going through.  Some men like to dress up like women, too, but that doesn't mean that I have to do it.  Too many of us need love and that's okay.  God is there for us to learn about love and how we should treat others fairly.

It's so easy to make such a mistake.  We men can have love towards each other without being derided about it by some others.  It is a travesty for other men to have to hide their feelings of love for each other just because they are looked down upon or it might be thought that they are gay.  I'm not talking about sex, so don't get mixed up on me.

Often, it is what is unsaid that causes the problems.  I'm trying to find the best words to explain this.  I hope that you can understand all of this without misunderstanding me.  Well, this is short for tonight, but it really hit home tonight that I should be more explicit.  It is now almost 1 a.m., so I should hit the sack.  May God Bless Your Journeys To Him During Your Lives,

MichaelC


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« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2021, 09:36:57 pm »
Dear Blade {& Chaplain Mark},

I want to jot a note to you both to clarify that you should love each other as you love yourselves, for Jesus taught us to do that.  This does not mean that you should love their sins and take them to be your own, also.  Jesus did not tell Paul that He was going to kill some Christians, too, like he {Paul} had done, just because He forgave him.

Homosexuals should be forgiven; thieves, and adulterers, yes, but don't become totally like them just because you should love them.  Do you know what I mean here??  Anal intercourse is not the answer here whatsoever, and I would be inclined to stay away from oral intercourse, too.  One might lead to another.

I love man very much, but not having sex with them.  I put myself in their shoes, and can know what they are going through.  Some men like to dress up like women, too, but that doesn't mean that I have to do it.  Too many of us need love and that's okay.  God is there for us to learn about love and how we should treat others fairly.

It's so easy to make such a mistake.  We men can have love towards each other without being derided about it by some others.  It is a travesty for other men to have to hide their feelings of love for each other just because they are looked down upon or it might be thought that they are gay.  I'm not talking about sex, so don't get mixed up on me.

Often, it is what is unsaid that causes the problems.  I'm trying to find the best words to explain this.  I hope that you can understand all of this without misunderstanding me.  Well, this is short for tonight, but it really hit home tonight that I should be more explicit.  It is now almost 1 a.m., so I should hit the sack.  May God Bless Your Journeys To Him During Your Lives,

MichaelC

Michael, the Lord wants us to love the person not the sin as you say, yet if we do not tell it like it is, is that really loving them. Not telling the truth about faces them is not loving them....Not telling them what the judgement will be is not loving them.

Jesus tells us in no uncertain terms what awaits the LGPTQ????? person unless the repent and turn toward HIM in both testaments. It is not judging them that is the problem. It is seeing the sin for what it is and not telling them the truth.

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Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

 

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