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Quote from: Bladerunner on March 28, 2021, 09:07:52 pm

Quote from: MichaelC on March 27, 2021, 10:47:38 pm

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYRXop7aPA&list=WL&index=27&t=78s

Controversial.

Yes, it is a sin.. and GOD has placed the whole world under judgement.

Rom 1: 24-25..".Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

Notice the words "gave them up to) for three times you will read this in three different judgements.
This first judgement is about sexuality and the sexual revolution that started sometime in the late 80's to early 90's.  Homo sexuality came out of the closets and hit the streets.

Rom 1:25-26.."For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Again we see the words "gave them up" and again another judgement that began in the early two thousands.... STD's became rampant and the homosexual group was now in full swing. GOD's Bow (rainBOW) a convenant to mankind yet, those who practice homosexuality fly a rainbow colored flag. Is it a sin?

In the final Judgement which started around 2014-15, The final step of letting mankind lose his mind.

Rom 1:28...."And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"   

Here GOD "gave them over to" to

Rom 1:29-31.."Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:"

Are these sins......If you (the reader) thinks NOT, it is because God has "given you over to "; well you have read His words...

Blade

Dear blade,

Please keep this in mind.  I am in no wise claiming that homosexuality is not a sin.  That's been my stand since I began here.  There are many sins that God and Jesus forgives, and they love the sinners in spite of their errors.  Note that Saul, traveling on the road to Damascus, was visited by the Lord, being forgiven of all of the Christians he had killed.  If Jesus forgave him for those killings, you might understand that there are other circumstances that the Lord considers, also.  Paul was a killer of Christians and the woman whom Jesus forgave for adultery was also a sinner.

BR, the Lord has had to forgive a lot of sins in continuing to love us sinners regardless.  We are ALL sinners, except Jesus.  Jesus was sent to the sinners primarily, but also the righteous.  He has forgiven sinners that have stolen, lied to, divorced, and more, but His love remains for anyone who is suffering from these problems or ways.

Wise it is if you can quit from each sin and do the Lord's will.  The Lord does try to show us how He wants us to live, by certain commandments, like thou shall not kill, or steal, bear false witness {lying}, etc.  If the Lord does not show us each sin, we would not know how to not do it {avoid it}.  Can you understand?  We all know that sin is wrong, but first we must know what is sin and what is not.

When Cain slew Abel, he most likely did not know that hitting his brother with a rock would kill him.  He was angry, upset, and didn't know it would make his brother become nonexistent or dead.  If Cain did not do this horrible thing, we would not know what we were not supposed to do, re killing his brother.  Someone had to kill someone to realize what kind of malice it caused.  This all could happen either way, no matter which sin I addressed.  The secret is to hate the sin, but love the sinner.  Jesus taught us to love even our enemies, not necessarily their sins, too.

In the Ten Commandments, God Himself said, "Thou shalt not kill."  It did not come from a disciple or apostle, but instead, God Himself.  Yet it did not stop people to keep from killing others, for the most part.  If a disciple or apostle says to not kill, should we hear it from them first, before God.  In general, if a man does not know what IS a sin, then he will then not know what to keep from doing unless it is at least explained to or shown him, first.

I guess I will just try to quit explaining.  Most of all sins are forgivable.  It is good if it ends with a victory, of course, and a sinner is redeemed/saved.  Jesus loves sinners and the righteous.  Be sure to leave the judging of a soul to God Himself.  It's best that way.  He knows more details about the subject.  He loves us, so God bless you.

MichaelC

Good evening Michael....Thanks for the info and I agree  and disagree with different parts..  The two parts are Sin and the ten commandments. 

Sin.... I agree sin is in all of us. We lose our ability to chose between sin and Jesus when our bodies die the 1st death. If we have not chosen to Believe in His Gospel (according to scripture), we will be condemned to live eternally away from Him in the Lake of Fire. Therefore the only unforgivable Sin is "Unbelief"

The Ten Commandments.. were KNOWN most likely known long before Exodus was written. It is obvious that Cain and Abel knew about the Sacrifice ritual which is the reason why GOD did not find favor with Cain.

Jesus in the NT repeated seven commandments from the original ten. These were given to us by our Apostle, Paul.  The other three commandments were
ceremonial in nature and with the end of Laws of Moses, they could not be properly followed.

It is good to converse with you my friend...Pray you have a very blessed week.

Blade

Quote from: MichaelC on March 29, 2021, 12:28:12 pm

Dear Blade,

Hey Buddy,

Thanks for your pleasant reply.  I don't usually get time to respond this soon, but I've got a dentist appt. after this, so I had to get up early.  I wonder if blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is not the most unforgivable sin.  Disbelief is a real bummer and you can't really get much taught to you because of it.

I stand corrected..according to Mat 12:31.."Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."

Yet without unbelief, blasphemy would not be possible!

Quote from: MichaelC on March 29, 2021, 12:28:12 pm

So, did Cain actually know what he was doing when he struck Abel with a rock and killed him.  Get back to me and let me know more about it.

I am sure that Cain knows what killing was. Yet, His jealousy was great because GOD chose Abel's offering over his......did He really know what He was doing or did unrestrained evil take over?

I will say this; I believe that we will see Cain in Heaven when we get there!

Quote from: MichaelC on March 29, 2021, 12:28:12 pm

Dying the first death is dying during this next resurrection, as far as I know.  Dying the second death is after this first resurrection to come when Jesus returns for us.  If you are taken during the first resurrection, you don't have to be concerned with the 2nd.

It was made known to me that the meek shall inherit the Earth after this 1st resurrection and they will populate the Earth one last time.  Note that the 'rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were fulfilled.'  During those thousand years, those who die during this 1st resurrection will rule with Jesus over the people still on Earth.  See Rev. 20:5KJV.

The first resurrection ended at the beginning of the millennium. Rev 20:5.."But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."

Quote from: MichaelC on March 29, 2021, 12:28:12 pm

From what I understand, the 2nd death will culminate with the lack of our present Earth and a new Earth provided.  See Rev. 21:1.  There will be a new Heaven and no sea.  As far as I know, there will be a great explosion, possibly of the sun, and it shall dissolve the elements.  I don't know too much about it because God doesn't tell me things that can wait until some other time later.  I have had enough to deal with and it has often not been easy.  There will be two nations:  Gog & Magog.

Blade, you are one of the closest of friends that I know here on FEF.  I would love to be on this forum a lot more often, but so far, I have been having tasks and medical predicaments that keep me busy.  It now takes me a long time just to do a load of laundry.  I was in the hospital for 2 months at once and I only weigh 124 lbs. now.  Perhaps it's soon time to give up the ghost.  Only God knows when.  I used to weigh 173 lbs. a while back.  I'm glad to lose some weight, but Whoa!

If the Lord had not visited me often, I would not know all of the things that I've learned from Him.  I have had a few overwhelming visions also, but they were worth it.  I knew about the CA fires back in 1982.  Now, that was a tremendous vision -- not the most pleasant, but the most heavy.  I saw a great, massive earthquake after the brush fires burned there for quite a while.  It is written about in my book which was published in 1999.  I'd best shut up now and get going.

May Jesus Hold Your Hands & Heart.  Looking forward until we speak again.

With Much Love For A Wonderful Brethren,

MichaelC

Thank youi Michael for the conversation.

Blade