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Quote from: Bladerunner on October 21, 2020, 09:02:12 pm

Quote from: patrick jane on October 21, 2020, 10:48:22 am

Quote from: patrick jane on October 07, 2020, 11:38:43 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYRXop7aPA&list=WL&index=27&t=78s

Controversial.

Yes, it is a sin.. and GOD has placed the whole world under judgement.

Rom 1: 24-25..".Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen."

Notice the words "gave them up to) for three times you will read this in three different judgements.
This first judgement is about sexuality and the sexual revolution that started sometime in the late 80's to early 90's.  Homo sexuality came out of the closets and hit the streets.

Rom 1:25-26.."For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Again we see the words "gave them up" and again another judgement that began in the early two thousands.... STD's became rampant and the homosexual group was now in full swing. GOD's Bow (rainBOW) a convenant to mankind yet, those who practice homosexuality fly a rainbow colored flag. Is it a sin?

In the final Judgement which started around 2014-15, The final step of letting mankind lose his mind.

Rom 1:28...."And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"   

Here GOD "gave them over to" to

Rom 1:29-31.."Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:"

Are these sins......If you (the reader) thinks NOT, it is because God has "given you over to "; well you have read His words...

Blade

Dear blade,

Please keep this in mind.  I am in no wise claiming that homosexuality is not a sin.  That's been my stand since I began here.  There are many sins that God and Jesus forgives, and they love the sinners in spite of their errors.  Note that Saul, traveling on the road to Damascus, was visited by the Lord, being forgiven of all of the Christians he had killed.  If Jesus forgave him for those killings, you might understand that there are other circumstances that the Lord considers, also.  Paul was a killer of Christians and the woman whom Jesus forgave for adultery was also a sinner.

BR, the Lord has had to forgive a lot of sins in continuing to love us sinners regardless.  We are ALL sinners, except Jesus.  Jesus was sent to the sinners primarily, but also the righteous.  He has forgiven sinners that have stolen, lied to, divorced, and more, but His love remains for anyone who is suffering from these problems or ways.

Wise it is if you can quit from each sin and do the Lord's will.  The Lord does try to show us how He wants us to live, by certain commandments, like thou shall not kill, or steal, bear false witness {lying}, etc.  If the Lord does not show us each sin, we would not know how to not do it {avoid it}.  Can you understand?  We all know that sin is wrong, but first we must know what is sin and what is not.

When Cain slew Abel, he most likely did not know that hitting his brother with a rock would kill him.  He was angry, upset, and didn't know it would make his brother become nonexistent or dead.  If Cain did not do this horrible thing, we would not know what we were not supposed to do, re killing his brother.  Someone had to kill someone to realize what kind of malice it caused.  This all could happen either way, no matter which sin I addressed.  The secret is to hate the sin, but love the sinner.  Jesus taught us to love even our enemies, not necessarily their sins, too.

In the Ten Commandments, God Himself said, "Thou shalt not kill."  It did not come from a disciple or apostle, but instead, God Himself.  Yet it did not stop people to keep from killing others, for the most part.  If a disciple or apostle says to not kill, should we hear it from them first, before God.  In general, if a man does not know what IS a sin, then he will then not know what to keep from doing unless it is at least explained to or shown him, first.

I guess I will just try to quit explaining.  Most of all sins are forgivable.  It is good if it ends with a victory, of course, and a sinner is redeemed/saved.  Jesus loves sinners and the righteous.  Be sure to leave the judging of a soul to God Himself.  It's best that way.  He knows more details about the subject.  He loves us, so God bless you.

MichaelC

Good evening Michael....Thanks for the info and I agree  and disagree with different parts..  The two parts are Sin and the ten commandments. 

Sin.... I agree sin is in all of us. We lose our ability to chose between sin and Jesus when our bodies die the 1st death. If we have not chosen to Believe in His Gospel (according to scripture), we will be condemned to live eternally away from Him in the Lake of Fire. Therefore the only unforgivable Sin is "Unbelief"

The Ten Commandments.. were KNOWN most likely known long before Exodus was written. It is obvious that Cain and Abel knew about the Sacrifice ritual which is the reason why GOD did not find favor with Cain.

Jesus in the NT repeated seven commandments from the original ten. These were given to us by our Apostle, Paul.  The other three commandments were
ceremonial in nature and with the end of Laws of Moses, they could not be properly followed.

It is good to converse with you my friend...Pray you have a very blessed week.

Blade