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doug

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THE MYSTERY KEPT SECRET
« on: July 23, 2020, 10:33:41 am »
Luke 1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
1:69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;
1:70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:

The prophets spoke of the Lord Jesus Christ since the world began.

Acts 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Peter preached that the prophets spoke of the Lord Jesus Christ since the world began.

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

Paul's preaching of the Lord Jesus Christ however, was kept secret since the world began.
Paul preached Christ according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret, but was now made manifest through Paul (Romans 16:26 Ephesians 3:3).

Neither the prophets, nor Peter and the disciples, preached the mystery, as it was hid from them (Colossians 1:26).

The mystery revealed to Paul was that all could be justified freely by grace through faith in Christ Jesus as our propitiation, apart from the law, apart from Israel and covenants (Romans 3:19-26) and the preaching of the cross (1 Corinthians 1:18).

The mystery revealed the body of Christ (Ephesians 3:4-6 Colossians 1:18 Ephesians 1:22-23).

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Re: THE MYSTERY KEPT SECRET
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2020, 07:22:08 pm »
Luke 1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
1:69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;
1:70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:

The prophets spoke of the Lord Jesus Christ since the world began.

Acts 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Peter preached that the prophets spoke of the Lord Jesus Christ since the world began.

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

Paul's preaching of the Lord Jesus Christ however, was kept secret since the world began.
Paul preached Christ according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret, but was now made manifest through Paul (Romans 16:26 Ephesians 3:3).

Neither the prophets, nor Peter and the disciples, preached the mystery, as it was hid from them (Colossians 1:26).

The mystery revealed to Paul was that all could be justified freely by grace through faith in Christ Jesus as our propitiation, apart from the law, apart from Israel and covenants (Romans 3:19-26) and the preaching of the cross (1 Corinthians 1:18).

The mystery revealed the body of Christ (Ephesians 3:4-6 Colossians 1:18 Ephesians 1:22-23).

Doug you said:"The mystery revealed to Paul was that all could be justified freely by grace through faith in Christ Jesus as our propitiation, apart from the law, apart from Israel and covenants (Romans 3:19-26)"[/b]

Doug you give the verses literally but do not translated them that way.

His church does not separate anyone who believes. In Romans 3-19-26 there is nothing in these verses that keep the members of His Church away from each other. In fact, even the covenants of Israel are to be inherited by those believers as we (His Church) have also been grafted onto the vine.

For in Rom 3:20.."Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin."

My translation of this is that "no flesh be justified" by the deeds of the Law.

Then in Rom 3:26.."Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:"

My interp. here is: anyone who believes /has faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ they are deemed righteous. It also leads to the interp,. that all who believe are righteous regardless of who they are. JEW or Gentile..

Those believers Jew and Gentile are one Church, One Body of Christ, One yš∑ad' bride of Jesus Christ. Yes both of them, Jew and Gentile, we are one.'

To think of it any other way is to border on anti-semitism which leads to Preterism (His church, devoid of all Jews..with His church claiming all the rights to all the covenants that Israel (the Jews) lost because of their unfaithfulness to God (the Father).

This Hermeneutics and Eschatology runs a great risk of calling GOD a LIAR!  which would be paramount to blasphemy.


Blade

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: THE MYSTERY KEPT SECRET
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2020, 11:00:43 am »
Blade said:In fact, even the covenants of Israel are to be inherited by those believers as we (His Church) have also been grafted onto the vine.

The error of thinking it is the Gentiles in this dispensation grafted into the olive tree would lead to other errors in thinking we inherit the kingdom on earth, are made kings and priests, and we receive the covenants.
The Gentiles grafted in are the Gentiles who became part of the remnant of Israel as in Acts 10:45, not the body of Christ. Paul was talking of the remnant of Israel in Romans 9 through 11 as can be seen in Romans 9:27.

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Re: THE MYSTERY KEPT SECRET
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2020, 12:23:57 pm »
When was the beginning that is talked about?


Did Isaiah tell the truth or is he to be ignored? Isaiah 40:21 Do you not know? HAVE YOU NOT HEARD? HAS IT NOT BEEN TOLD YOU FROM THE BEGINNING? Have you not understood SINCE THE EARTH WAS FOUNDED?

How could we have heard and understood since the earth was founded if we were not created yet???
Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil


Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

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Re: THE MYSTERY KEPT SECRET
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2020, 04:05:01 pm »
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When was the beginning that is talked about?


Did Isaiah tell the truth or is he to be ignored? Isaiah 40:21 Do you not know? HAVE YOU NOT HEARD? HAS IT NOT BEEN TOLD YOU FROM THE BEGINNING? Have you not understood SINCE THE EARTH WAS FOUNDED?

How could we have heard and understood since the earth was founded if we were not created yet???

Isaiah is speaking to the people about Jesus.
Isa 40:21.(KJV)."Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?"

Isaiah is amazed at those who have not heard about the righteousness/glory of Jesus Christ.That Jesus was there from the beginning, that Jesus was there before the foundations of the earth were laid?

It is pretty clear from the context of Isa 40:1-21 is NOT speaking about the people but rather Jesus Christ.    Oh, this is the OT right with Jesus Christ in it??????Mysteries for mysteries.

I say "amazed" by the way the questions was asked...If one reads it carefully, one can see his (isaiah's) voice rising with each successive  question of unbelievability.

Blade
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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: THE MYSTERY KEPT SECRET
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