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Hebrews 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?

3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?

3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

Unfaith in what aspect of GOD or HIS plan for them?


Please consider:
  Gen 15: 16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.  Since we know the hatred GOD has for the merest hint of evil, such that it is even said HE cannot look upon it, have you considered:  IF the iniquity of the Amorites is full enough for judgment, WHO is it not full enough for? 

Genesis 15:16 But in the fourth generation they (the Israelites) shall come hither (to the Promised Land) again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
Now, the thing that I'd like you to note is that Israel's return to the Promised Land had to be postponed. My first question is: WHY did it have to be postponed? Was it because the iniquity of the Amorites was not yet full enough for their judgement? Okay, then my second question is who wasn't it full enough for?


It should be obvious to anyone who knows anything about the totally defiling nature of just one sin, that the Amorites were full enough in GOD's sight already. So then, just who still looked on their iniquity as not being full yet, that is, as not being bad enough to warrant this judgement, that had to take place before Israel's return?


According to pre-conception existence theology, there was a four generation postponement of GOD's judgement because  the Amorites were not yet bad enough in the eyes of the Israelites for the Israelites to be willing to judge them according to the judgement decreed by GOD.


Therefore, the Israelites  had to either stay enslaved in Egypt or wandering in the wilderness until they became willing to judge them, that is, until the Israelites became holy (obedient) enough to see them all judged: men, women and children. (See Joshua 6:21; 8:26-27; 10:40)


Now, this judgement against the Amorites is typical of the final judgement that has to take place before we can inherit the antitypical Promised Land, that is, before GOD's people can enter into the truest millennium.


According to pre-conception existence theology, this antitypical judgement has also been postponed once again, because the elect do not yet look on the iniquity of HIS enemies as being bad enough to warrant HIS eternal judgement and wrath on them.


Therefore, we too have had to wander in the wilderness after we've been converted, that is, outside of the promised land, still waiting until we become holy enough to have all of GOD's enemies (men, women and children, even the ones that look like little wee babies!) killed, that is, judged and forever exiled to hell.