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Quote from: doug on June 01, 2020, 08:16:52 am

Ephesians 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

Jesus came to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and preached the gospel of the kingdom (Matthew 15:24 Matthew 4:23). The gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come (Matthew 24:14). The believing remnant of Israel will inherit the earth and reign with Christ in the kingdom on earth (Revelation 5:10).

Paul did not preach the gospel of the kingdom. Revealed through Paul, is the body of Christ. The body of Christ, the new man, comprised of Jew and Gentile justified freely by the redemption of Christ, is to have position in the heavenly places (1 Corinthians 12:27 Ephesians 2:15 Romans 3:24 Ephesians 2:6).

It is the purpose, and wisdom of God, to gather together in one, in Christ, the remnant of Israel and the body of Christ. God will gather together heaven and earth.

Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

That all of believing Israel and the body of Christ will be gathered together is part of the fellowship of the mystery.

Colossians 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

It is to manifest the wisdom of God to acknowledge that to Israel was preached the gospel of the kingdom by Jesus and the disciples, but Paul preached the fulness of the gospel of Christ (Romans 15:29). Through the Israel of God, the believing remnant, the earth is reconciled, and through the body of Christ the heavens are reconciled.

Doug you got a couple things right:" The believing remnant of Israel will inherit the earth and reign with Christ in the kingdom on earth (Revelation 5:10)."   and  "The body of Christ, the new man, comprised of Jew and Gentile justified freely by the redemption of Christ, is to have position in the heavenly places (1 Corinthians 12:27 Ephesians 2:15 Romans 3:24 Ephesians 2:6)."

I agree with these whole heartedly. However, you stepped off of the bus when you placed the Remnant of Israel in with the Church...

The Remnant (all) of Israel is what is  after their purification in the Great Tribulation (Jacob's Trouble). During this 3.5 years Israel with the exception of the those that flees Judiah when the Abomination of Desolation is committed by the son of Perdition (antichrist) will die...Two thirds of Israel during the Daniel's 70th week will die and only the one-third will call out to GOD (His Name, Zec 13:9) and He will protect, feed and water them in the mountains south of Judiah. (Rev 12).  They,  after the end of Daniel's 70th week will receive the NEW COVENANT (Jer 31:33) and will enter the Kingdom of Heaven (Millennium) here on earth as you stated before.

The Church prior to Daniel's 70th week have been removed from the earth are are spoken of in Rev 1, 2 and 3. At the start of Chapter 4, John our Brother in Christ is caught up to Heaven and sees the 24 elders sitting on the 24 thrones...In Chapter 5, They are singing a new song, Rev 5:9.."... for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;"

The church is not spoken of again on earth or int heaven until Rev 19:7-8...Now some say this is spiritual and with their bodies like Jesus, I would say yes it is spiritual but in Rev 19:8...it reads "And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints." This seems to indicate some sort of physical clothing made of fine linen.

Rem, the Church (Body of Christ) are those Jews and Gentiles who are True believers vs Professed Believers during the time period known as the "Church Age" or the "age of Grace".   These will become Kings and Priest and will help rule the earth in the Gentile countries that remain after Armageddon and the 2nd Advent of Christ.

Again, the one-third remnant will rule the earth and Israel on earth with Jesus. All Earth will return to Israel at least once per year and all those on earth will be able to eat from the tree of life. From what I understand, the Church need not eat from the tree of life as they have been translated and see Jesus as He is for they are like HIM>>>>>

I know you disagree but the Bible does not leave out anything and everything fits like a gloves when read literally... Two Plans not ONE...TWO...

Doug. Would you like to discuss it in depth.

Blade





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