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« on: September 19, 2018, 11:35:09 am »


Remember when Venezuela was held up as the great example of socialism done well? As Americans, we heard about Hugo Chavez calling our president (G. Bush) the devil. The people of Venezuela had it great and we had it bad. So how did they do it? Well, they did it just exactly like every other communist government does it; they nationalize industry. So they had oil and nationalized it. They then distributed the wealth to "the people". The people liked this. They got free and subsidized stuff. Woo Hoo.

Guess what? The party is now over. The government ruined the country. Nobody is holding up Venezuela today. But, they did raise the minimum wage this week. That ought to fix everything. I am not happy about all the misery that the Venezuelan people are suffering, but this is another in a long, long, long, line of examples of the failure of communism.

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Re: Venezuela
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2018, 11:44:45 am »
Remember when Venezuela was held up as the great example of socialism done well? As Americans, we heard about Hugo Chavez calling our president (G. Bush) the devil. The people of Venezuela had it great and we had it bad. So how did they do it? Well, they did it just exactly like every other communist government does it; they nationalize industry. So they had oil and nationalized it. They then distributed the wealth to "the people". The people liked this. They got free and subsidized stuff. Woo Hoo.

Guess what? The party is now over. The government ruined the country. Nobody is holding up Venezuela today. But, they did raise the minimum wage this week. That ought to fix everything. I am not happy about all the misery that the Venezuelan people are suffering, but this is another in a long, long, long, line of examples of the failure of communism.
And as we know, the goal of communism is socialism or vice versa, they go hand in hand. Socialism and communism have killed hundreds of millions of people maybe billions.

I will have some material to post in this thread for sure. The demonrats are so far left that they will use socialism as a carrot to dangle in front of uneducated young people who think they will get free healthcare and free college and then a great job. It's insanity.
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Re: Venezuela
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2018, 07:05:42 am »
How's Socialism Doing in Venezuela?


Venezuela is falling apart. Its economy? Ruined. Its people? Hungry. Its government? Corrupt. What happened? In a word, socialism. Debbie D'Souza, a native Venezuelan and political activist, explains.


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Re: Venezuela
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2018, 07:10:43 am »
What Caused Venezuela’s Tragic Collapse? Socialism.


The collapse of Venezuela's economy is both horrifying and predictable, and the world needs to understand why.

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Re: Venezuela
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2018, 06:53:06 pm »


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Re: Venezuela
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2018, 07:39:55 pm »
Trump considers naming Venezuela as terror sponsor


Citing the ongoing nature of the discussion, White House officials refused to say whether or not the designation was a forgone conclusion; Kevin Corke reports from West Palm Beach.


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Re: Venezuela
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2019, 02:52:15 pm »
BREAKING 🔴 President Trump Administration make UNPRECEDENTED Move on the World Stage at the UN


President Trump's Secretary of State Mike Pompeo makes Unprecedented Move on the World Stage regarding Venezuela at the UN Security Council


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Re: Venezuela
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2019, 09:08:54 am »
I’m a firm believer of adverse publicity...
All of the adverse publicity from Western Europe and the US never hurt the Ayatollahs of Iran. Likewise Maduro, who is such a wonderful president for big oil, is effectively supported by all of the fake stories that the US and EU want to get rid of him!

Just for the record – I’M NO SUPPORTER OF BIG OIL.
Who profits?

Longtime Rothschild banker and Trump’s Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross first invested in Navigator Holdings in 2011. In the summer of 2012, WL Ross took control of Navigator by buying a further $110 million stake from the collapsed Lehman Brothers bank. Navigator Holdings earns millions a year transporting oil and gas for the Russian Sibur.
Putin’s son-in-law Shamalov holds a large stake in Sibur and is its deputy chairman.

In 2016, 31.5% was still held by entities in which Ross has a stake (WLR). In 2017, the WLR stake in Navigator was worth about $179 million, but it is not clear how much is (still) held by Ross personally.

Navigator vessels also carried out extensive business with the Venezuelan state oil company PDVSA, records show, at a time when Venezuela’s government was cracking down on opposition. Trump imposed sanctions on PDVSA in August: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/trump-commerce-secretary-wilbur-ross-business-links-putin-family-paradise-papers

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2019, 10:37:07 am »
All of the adverse publicity that Maduro gets from the US and EU will boost his popularity (like the Ayatollahs of Iran).
There are actually people that only defend Maduro because he´s supposedly targetted by the US.

I once or twice read claims that all installed puppet leaders are really freemasons. The following video shows that both Maduro and Juan Guaido are freemasons (or at the very least affiliated with freemasonry).
This makes Guaido nothing but “controlled opposition”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lfKXuzid74


I once or twice read claims that all installed puppet leaders are really crypto-Jews (maybe crypto-Khazars?)...

Maduro and his predecessor, Hugo Chávez, have widely been accused of anti-Semitism.
Nicolas Maduro defended himself against these accusations by telling the world that he himself descended from Sephardic Jews:
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My grandparents were Jewish, from a [Sephardic] Moorish background, and converted to Catholicism in Venezuela… The mother of [Minister of Communication and Information] Ernesto Villegas also comes from a similar background.

if there is a people that has a rich socialist tradition, it’s the Jewish people… We respect their history.
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Re: Venezuela
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2019, 09:10:19 am »
Even if I succeed in showing that all of the publicity from North America and West Europe has been boosting the popularity of Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela for years, most people won’t believe that this is an intentional strategy...


The New York Times has actually reported that the threats from the US “simply feed Mr. Maduro’s conspiracy theories, undermine attempts to isolate the regime, and hamper efforts to support the Venezuelan people”!

For many Venezuelan officials and their families the tourist attractions in the USA — like Miami, New York and Disney World – are a popular holiday destination.
In 2017, the Trump administration announced a travel ban on Venezuela. That the travel restrictions only applied to a tiny fraction of Venezuelans, shows that this won’t really have much influence on national security.
It seems unlikely that the travel restrictions would stop making the US a popular holiday destination for the elite of Venezuela.

Also interesting is that the US accused Venezuelan diplomats of running a scheme to sell passports to people in the Middle East (Arabs?) with “ties to terrorism”: http://web.archive.org/web/20171101000000*/https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/opinion/venezuela-trump-travel-ban.html


Family of Maduro cronies are living abroad, like for example in Miami and Madrid...
Of course big words won’t really change this...

Trump’s team has claimed that military leaders who don´t endorse Juan Guaido as interim president have to leave the US.
Officials “forgot” to specify the timeframe in which the US and it allies will start deporting the families of Maduro loyalists: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/trump-leans-on-families-in-us-to-pressure-maduros-military-leaders


I really don´t think that making Guaido into a “Yankee puppet” in the eyes of Venezuela will make him very popular...

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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2019, 09:22:49 am »
Also interesting is that the US accused Venezuelan diplomats of running a scheme to sell passports to people in the Middle East (Arabs?) with “ties to terrorism”: http://web.archive.org/web/20171101000000*/https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/10/opinion/venezuela-trump-travel-ban.html
Maltese journalist Daphne Caruana Galizia was murdered because she threatened to expose the links between Henley & Partners, SCL Group, British Royals, and passports for sale in Malta. There is actually a link to Venezuela.

Joseph Muscat became PM of Malta in March 2013. Within months Muscat announced that Henley and Partners would run a citizenship by investment (CBI) program for Malta, which provided citizenship in the EU. Passports would cost €650,000, with another €150,000 to be invested in government bonds for 5 years.

Chairman of Henley & Partners, Christian Kälin, introduced Muscat to the Iranian born Ali Sadr Hashemi Nejad.
In 2003, Ali Sadr won asylum in the US based on claims he'd been tortured in Iran. In 2009, he lost his staying permit.
Sadr then took a job with his father, Mohammad Sadr Hashemi Nejad (reportedly Iran's richest man). The job involved the family's Stratus Group construction business and a $475 million project in Venezuela.

In 2009, Ali Sadr obtained a St Kitts and Nevis passport by paying $250,000 to the citizenship-by-investment program that was run by Henley and Partners.
In 2010, Sadr used his St Kitts passport to set up companies in Dubai, Turkey and Switzerland, with Swiss bank accounts, and laundered $115 million in Venezuelan payments through them.

In 2014, Ali Sadr also founded the Pilatus Bank in Malta he also got a top securities license.
Kälin invited Sadr to his 20th wedding anniversary in Switzerland, while Muscat attended Sadr's own wedding in northern Italy in 2015.
On 20 March 2018, FBI agents arrested the 38-year-old Iranian born Ali Sadr Hashemi Nejad at Washington Dulles International Airport and charged him with breaching US banking sanctions on Iran.

In early 2015, Malta signed a controversial $1 billion gas supply contract with Azerbaijan. The FIAU traced $1.6 million into 17 Black's Noor Islamic Bank in Dubai from a Latvian bank. The payment came from a company in the Seychelles owned by an Azerbaijan national.
Maria Efimova said that in March 2016, $1.016 million was transferred to an Egrant account in Dubai from the Pilatus account of Al Sahra FZCO, a Dubai company belonging to the daughter of president of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev, Leyla Aliyeva.

According to Efimova, the file for Egrant's Pilatus bank account contained 2 declarations of trust dated 20 August 2015, which said that Egrant's ultimate owner was the wife of Malta's PM, Michelle Muscat:
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2019, 07:59:10 am »
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