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January 21, 2021, 06:35:13 pm Bladerunner says: good evening to all.....the signing of the LGBTXXXXXX executive orders has already begun. I say to all the churches, Watch out!

January 21, 2021, 09:08:00 pm Chaplain Mark Schmidt says: I see no issues with the signing of the LGBTQ executive orders.  The sky did not fall, God did not admit anyone, no police showed up to check if I was harboring Gays,  no Churches burned up nothing.  I think the reactions or overreactions.  The churches have solid grounds to stand on if they chose to be an exclusive country club that only those that act and look a certain way can attend, then they can be.    Those that chose to be inclusive, they can.  AND guess what each and every one of us gets to pick the one we attend, and WE AL HAVE the right to ignore the rest.
Remeber your own hate only punishes you.  The others by and large will not care about your positions.  Take care of yourself and your salvation and do not worry about those that have chosen a different journey. 

That is my viewpoint and humble opinion.   NOTHING and I mean NOTHING in that order will affect me and my faith, belief and position.

Today at 01:11:49 am Bladerunner says: Mark: Wow, expected something but not that...

I expect no police at any church as I expect no church to be harboring (hiding) gays! What the executive order did do was unleash the transgender on the women's sports. It will all but destroy it in every way. Its already in the news today and the 'WOKE' NCAA will remove tournaments in states that prohibit transgenders in women's sports.(i.e. Montana)

Allowing the transgender male to go into the female bathrooms is another problem that is a little closer to home.. will you allow this in your church? will not allow my wife, daughter or granddaughter to go into a restroom that has a transgender in it. Thus, we will have to remove ourselves from a favorite restaurants, church, etc. and become a part of that ever widening division in America.

With these executive orders, the feds 'can' remove the churches C3 status that refuse a same sex marriage....Will your church do that? If it does, I am sure the feds will leave your church alone.... I would not marry a same sex couple...It would indeed be a direct sin against GOD! p.s. funny you should speak of the standing of the church as it was Justice Roberts and the SUPREME Court refusal to hear the Texas Case because they had no standing.

I have already seen many churches chasing down a rabbit hole to help those that are part of the social justice or Woke movements. They simply lose themselves trying to help these people that do not want help, for social justice and the WOKE movement is antithetical to the gospel of Jesus Christ. There is no degree that you can be part of either one of these movements and be true to GOD's WORD and HIS Gospel.

The executive orders also give our (yours and mine) tax dollars to places that abort babies in the womb. Surely you do not condone this as the POPE at least says He doe not agree with the murder of innocent life. Yet, they were signed and another million babies will be dying all in the name of what? women's rights

I could go on as there were 17 orders he signed but the rest do not affect the churches directly. While these seem to be political, they will certainly effect the churches and the parishoners that will not stray away from GOD's word....I and my family are one of those.

Back in 2015 as (White) stated, a switch was turned on and the transgender movement began immediately.   Rom 1:28."And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"  We are under judgement and have been since the late fifies/early sixties.

P.s. I have no hate for people but rather the sins they promote,. and my salvation/justification is in good shape as I protect the WORD of GOD as He Authored it. Those words in Rom 1:28 literally tell us what was to happen  2,000 years ago. today it is a reality.

Again, these signatures did not burn down any churches, but given a little time, they will affect all of us. You and I and others will all be in the same bucket. It will be interesting in how those that think like you do handle it when things get heated with the social justice and "WOKE" movement for they like the bull in the spanish colosseum only see red no matter whether it be a Matador or a citizen within. we already see signs of this in Portland last night!

Have a good day Mark

Blade

Today at 01:25:52 am Chaplain Mark Schmidt says: I love your take and your input Blade and you always provide a well thought out and informative response.  I unfortunately have been a little more passionate and less thoughtful the last couple of months.  Too many issues in the background.   The thing about executive orders is they are only enforceable until the court overturns or congress passes laws to overturn them.  The NCAA is a bunch of **** that are afraid of the lawsuits and change with the fad of the moment.  the Tax-exempt status does need to be revisited but I agree not under these conditions.   I stand with you on my salvation and justification is on solid ground and I believe in the inspired word of God.  I just come from a different angle and believe only God can sit in judgment of sins, not be.  I will be tolerant and I will be as inclusive as possible and still not violate my belief, my faith my salvation, and the Words of God.   Thank you for the good wishes.  Without men of faith as you, we all would be worse off.

I hope you have a good day and a blessed day Blade.