Author Topic: ANTIFA and BLM - THE WORST OF AMERICA (Read 8661 times)

guest116 · « **Reply #78 on:** December 20, 2020, 07:18:51 pm »

We will have to disagree Patrick as I believe the sky is falling mentality is short sight and selling the people of this country short. That was not directed at you specifically either. But if you felt it was, then you and I can chat as an exchange of information is all I have every ask who thinks electing one person will negate everything else intrigues me, just as much as I felt the same way when Trump was elected. While I detested him for many many years. I never once though the election of one man would destroy everything and told my friends I have on the extreme left the same.

If my views and opinions are offensive and as it sounds to me, you think I am a misguide or miss led Christian, than delete me. I am good with that. I have never stayed where I am unwanted. But I am tired of what I consider wrong or an issue being demean belittle and then told I am unamerican and a C0ommunist. I spent 20 years defending this country in the Army and another 20 years until I retired in 2020 defending the country working for Homeland Security. I think I have earned my right to feel how I feel. I defended our Country even when I disagreed with Policy as long as it was lawful. My oath has never gone away and I will defend it to my dining breath.

guest116 · « **Reply #79 on:** December 20, 2020, 07:23:40 pm »

As for not supporting hating Jews, I have not seen one post denounce or condemning the Proud boys yet. I have not seen one post that condemns racism. I am not a big fan like I said of BLM, the movement, but I have good friends that or good people black and white that support its purpose.

Now I admit I have not read every single post so if I missed anything that condemns those, then I stand corrected and apologize.

patrick jane · « **Reply #80 on:** December 20, 2020, 07:24:45 pm »

Quote from: Chaplain Mark Schmidt on December 20, 2020, 07:18:51 pm

We will have to disagree Patrick as I believe the sky is falling mentality is short sight and selling the people of this country short. That was not directed at you specifically either. But if you felt it was, then you and I can chat as an exchange of information is all I have every ask who thinks electing one person will negate everything else intrigues me, just as much as I felt the same way when Trump was elected. While I detested him for many many years. I never once though the election of one man would destroy everything and told my friends I have on the extreme left the same.

If my views and opinions are offensive and as it sounds to me, you think I am a misguide or miss led Christian, than delete me. I am good with that. I have never stayed where I am unwanted. But I am tired of what I consider wrong or an issue being demean belittle and then told I am unamerican and a C0ommunist. I spent 20 years defending this country in the Army and another 20 years until I retired in 2020 defending the country working for Homeland Security. I think I have earned my right to feel how I feel. I defended our Country even when I disagreed with Policy as long as it was lawful. My oath has never gone away and I will defend it to my dining breath.

Your views are not offensive to me but what I'm doing with the titles of these threads is fighting back as best I can. The left (dems) want your guns Mark, they love abortion and the teaching of genderless living to Pre School children. They want to end fossil fuels. China will be poised to invade this nation in ten years. No, the election of one man does nothing Mark, but the fraud committed to STEAL the election and the very future of the great nation to served is OVER, your grandchildren will be living in a communist country.

guest116 · « **Reply #81 on:** December 20, 2020, 07:38:12 pm »

I am a Dem and almost all my friends I hang with in person are Dem's, all of us own firearms and hunt and do not want your guns. We all acknowledge that the extreme left might, but the mainstream does not. None of us like abortion, but support a women's right to decided and to have a safe place to get the procedure instead of a back alley somewhere like it was in the '60s. All of us think this genderless crap is that crap. To many people believe to much the media has said about democrats and failed to actually talk to those that walk among you. You would find out that most all of us are more like me than the extremist on either side of an issue.

As for the election, I figure when 47 lawsuits have been denied including by Trump appointees and the Supreme Court twice say that there has been no widespread or specific fraud found I am good with those results. Not once did Trump attorneys produce one shred of evidence and I went and download the court filings and read them. Some of the fillings were horribly written and babbling crap that a first-year law student would never have got past a teacher.

We will just have to agree to disagree on the election. I like you allot and what you have done for the THeology part of this forum. I have enjoyed it on hear, but lets face it neither of us will change our positions on this.

patrick jane · « **Reply #82 on:** December 20, 2020, 07:54:08 pm »

There are thousands of affidavits that can't be heard because the courts messed up every time. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence of election fraud no matter what was denied 47 times. We shall see what the country looks like in 2024 and in 2030 brother.

patrick jane · « **Reply #83 on:** December 20, 2020, 09:00:48 pm »

Thousands of sworn affidavits from eyewitnesses at every swing state main polling count location, Trump leading by a LOT in every swing state until about 3 am and the statistics are mathematically impossible.

Dominion voting systems is a cheating system, documented and proved. You aren't aware of the real evidence because the media sources you use won't report it. Massive fraud brother, I promise you.

I like you a lot too Mark and you can talk politics on your YT channel if you choose to and your views are respected by me. What has the Proud Boys done that needs condemning? You may notice I don't promote them here either.

I think Donald Trump is the greatest president in my 51 year life. Maybe you believe wearing masks helps as well, that's OK, I don't. I don't have white guilt and I don't owe black people anything in restitution. The top leadership of the dems, behind the scenes, are in league with Planned Parenthood making abortion a for profit business like a damn fast food restaurant.

The America I was born in in 1969 is gone forever now with this election. No doom and gloom just reality. I hope I'm wrong brother. God bless you Mark.

patrick jane · « **Reply #84 on:** December 20, 2020, 09:16:30 pm »

How can anyone disregard what the dems did to Trump with 3 years of attempted impeachment with no crimes and no Russian interference - ZERO and if the same fraud allegations were made against Trump should he have won this election (which he did) you would see full support for deep investigations from every dem in the earth. Suddenly nobody is interested.

Mark, when I refer to "dems" I am speaking only about your leadership and the global interests they bow down to and serve. I am not speaking of you or my next door neighbors who are democrats. I am so disgusted with your party and where it is headed that I refuse to capitalize the word democrat.

patrick jane · « **Reply #85 on:** December 20, 2020, 11:28:03 pm »

I'm sorry Mark, if I was short with you or offensive. I just post videos of things I agree with but I don't know much about the Proud Boys, and like the whole country we see different things on both sides. It is amazing how half the country sees one thing and the other half see the opposite.

That means they have done their job quite well, divide and conquer. I have no problem with your views and opinions brother so please don't ever feel unwelcomed here.

Sincerely, Mark

guest17 · « **Reply #86 on:** January 03, 2021, 09:02:42 pm »

Portland Mayor FINALLY admits 'ANTIFA' is a problem...

patrick jane · « **Reply #87 on:** January 24, 2021, 07:41:52 pm »

Twitter suspends ‘Antifa’ accounts with more than 71K followers

Twitter has suspended several popular accounts with alleged ties to Antifa — which have more than 71,000 followers combined — following the Inauguration Day riots.

At least four accounts tied with the militant group have been yanked offline — including @TheBaseBK, the account for the anarchist center in Bushwick, Brooklyn.

Archived web pages of the accounts show they shared more than 71,000 followers and dated as far back as 2012.

Their pages now read “Account suspended” for violating Twitter rules.

Antifa Sacramento railed against The Base’s suspension on its own Twitter.

“Our comrades w The Base (@TheBasebk), an anarchist social center in Brooklyn, NY of 9 years now took this Twitter thing seriously. Reaching a platform of 17k followers they pushed a very specific line where politics were never blurred. Today, Twitter took their account down, and now theres a void,” the group tweeted Thursday.

“The Base took the same approach to Twitter as they do in the struggle for liberation. As anarchists they take a stand & never waver. Its inspiring. And we encourage everyone to check their site now & periodically http://thebasebk.org Solidarity forever!”

The suspensions were first reported by Andy Ngo, who runs the conservative blog The Post Millennial.

Twitter didn’t immediately return an email.

Members of Antifa — the far-left radical group behind numerous riots in recent months — ransacked the streets of Seattle the night of President Biden’s inauguration, smashing up the historic Starbucks and burning an American flag.

They also marched through Portland, Oregon, with a banner reading, “WE DON’T WANT BIDEN — WE WANT REVENGE!”

Twitter has been cracking down on accounts belonging to extremist groups and those that peddle conspiracy theories following the Jan. 6 siege on the US Capitol.

More than 70,000 QAnon-related accounts have since been purged.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/22/twitter-suspends-antifa-accounts-with-over-71k-followers/

guest17 · « **Reply #88 on:** January 24, 2021, 08:10:29 pm »

Antifa agitators smash windows of Portland Democratic Party headquarters, attack police officer, and flip over car Jan 21, 2021

Leftist agitators rioted in the streets of Portland Wednesday night, smashing windows at the Democratic Party headquarters.

Hundreds of people associated with the leftist organization antifa gathered around 2 p.m. Wednesday, two hours after President Biden's inauguration ceremony, and marched to the Democratic Party headquarters and began smashing windows, according to KOIN 6 News.

“To those gathered near the Democratic Party of Oregon Portland Headquarters: Members of this group have been observed damaging the building,” the Portland Police Bureau tweeted. “Anyone who is involved in criminal behavior including: vandalism and graffittiing is subject to arrest or citation.

Several journalists posted video from the scene showing the destruction of the building.

“The Democratic Party Of Oregon building was vandalized moments go by an Antifa group in Portland Oregon,” the Daily Caller’s Jorge Ventura tweeted. “The group gathered at Revolution Hall and blocked roads off as they made their way towards the building.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/antifa-smash-window-democratic-headquarters-attack-police

guest17 · « **Reply #89 on:** January 30, 2021, 01:07:08 pm »

Black Lives Matter nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

A member of the Norwegian Parliament nominated Black Lives Matter for the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize, lauding the movement for its calls for systemic change during summer 2020.

Petter Eide of the Socialist Left Party said in his nomination papers that the movement had a hand in forcing countries outside the United States to combat racism and inequality in their respective societies, according to the Guardian.

Following the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis police custody in May, Black Lives Matter soared in international popularity, leading to protests against racism and police brutality in cities across the world, including London, Seoul, Sydney, Rio de Janeiro, and elsewhere.

“I find that one of the key challenges we have seen in America, but also in Europe and Asia, is the kind of increasing conflict based on inequality. Black Lives Matter has become a very important worldwide movement to fight racial injustice," Eide said. "They have had a tremendous achievement in raising global awareness and consciousness about racial injustice."

Eide said he did not intend for his nomination to be a statement about domestic U.S. politics but also dismissed criticism from right-wing voices alleging Black Lives Matter was responsible for damages and violence in U.S. cities.

“Studies have shown that most of the demonstrations organised by Black Lives Matter have been peaceful. Of course there have been incidents, but most of them have been caused by the activities of either the police or counter-protestors,” Eide said.

According to Property Claim Services, a company tracking insurance claims related to civil disorder, looting and riots following the death of Floyd amounted to at least $1 billion in damages to properties across the United States, the Hill reported.

Although independent investigations concluded over 90% of protests in 2020 remained peaceful, many cities, including Minneapolis and Kenosha, Wisconsin, were struck with immense property damages from violent agitators and anarchists.

Former President Donald Trump was also nominated for the 2021 prize by Christian Tybring-Gjedde, a member of Parliament who leads Norway's NATO delegation. Trump did not win the prize.

Tybring-Gjedde said he nominated Trump not because he liked the former president but because "the committee should look at the facts and judge him on the facts — not on the way he behaves sometimes. The people who have received the Peace Prize in recent years have done much less than Donald Trump. For example, Barack Obama did nothing."

Tybring-Gjedde also said his reasoning for nominating Trump stemmed from his role in brokering peace negotiations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.

Following the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, after which the House voted to impeach Trump a second time on a charge of incitement of insurrection, Eide said he had "a little difficulty defending [Tybring-Gjedde's] nomination." Trump faces a Senate impeachment trial next month.

Nobel Peace Prize nominations are accepted from any politician serving at a national level, and those submitting have 2,000 words to state their reasoning for selection.

The deadline for 2021 submissions is Monday. A committee will prepare a shortlist of nominations by the end of March, and the winner is selected in October, followed by an award ceremony slated for Dec. 10.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/blm-movement-nominated-nobel-peace-prize

James 3:13 Who among you is wise and intelligent? Let him by his good conduct show his [good] deeds with the gentleness and humility of true wisdom. 14But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not be arrogant, and [as a result] be in defiance of the truth. 15This [superficial] wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly (secular), natural (unspiritual), even demonic. 16For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder [unrest, rebellion] and every evil thing and morally degrading practice. 17But the wisdom from above is first pure [morally and spiritually undefiled], then peace-loving [courteous, considerate], gentle, reasonable [and willing to listen], full of compassion and good fruits. It is unwavering, without [self-righteous] hypocrisy [and self-serving guile]. 18And the seed whose fruit is righteousness (spiritual maturity) is sown in peace by those who make peace [by actively encouraging goodwill between individuals].[/b

guest17 · « **Reply #90 on:** January 30, 2021, 01:48:06 pm »

There were also left wing protesters involved in the Capitol riot and at least one of them was arrested and charged. Although he tried to say that he was only documenting and filming the riot, he was definitely involved and was encouraging and instigating.

1. This Affidavit is submitted in support of a Criminal Complaint charging JOHN
EARLE SULLIVAN (SULLIVAN) with violations of 18 U.S.C. §§ 231(a)(3) & 2, 18 U.S.C. §
1752(a), and 40 U.S.C. § 5104(e)(2).
11. SULLIVAN, DOB 07/18/1994, is a resident of Utah. Based on publicly available
information and information provided by SULLIVAN in an interview on January 7, 2021, described
further below, SULLIVAN is the leader of an organization called Insurgence USA through which
he organizes protests. On July 13, 2020, SULLIVAN was charged with Rioting and Criminal
Mischief by the local law enforcement authorities in Provo, Utah, based on his activities around a
June 30, 2020, protest in which a civilian was shot and injured. The case is still pending.

12. The United States obtained a video of SULLIVAN, posted on YouTube, in which,
while attending a protest in Washington, D.C., SULLIVAN can be seen telling a crowd, over a
microphone, “we about to burn this s*** down,” “we got to rip Trump out of office . . . f***** pull
him out of that s*** . . . we ain’t waiting until the next election . . . we about to go get that
m**********.” SULLIVAN then can be seen leading the crowd in a chant of, “it’s time for a
revolution.”1

b. After the crowd broke through the last barricade, and as SULLIVAN and the
others approach the Capitol Building, SULLIVAN can be heard in the video saying
at various points: “There are so many people. Let’s go. This s*** is ours! F*** yeah,”
“We accomplished this ****. We did this together. F*** yeah! We are all a part of
this history,” and “Let’s burn this s*** down.”

c. Later, SULLIVAN’s video includes footage of individuals climbing a wall
to reach a plaza just outside the Capitol Building entrance, as seen in the screenshot
below. As individuals are climbing the wall, SULLIVAN can be heard saying, “You
guys are f***** savage. Let’s go!”

f. SULLIVAN, once inside the Capitol Building, roamed the building with
other individuals who unlawfully entered. During one of his interactions with
others, SULLIVAN can be heard in the video saying, “We gotta get this s*** burned.”
At other times as he is walking through the Capitol, SULLIVAN can be heard
saying, among other things, “it’s our house m*********” and “we are getting this
s***.”

h. At one point in the video, SULLIVAN enters an office within the U.S.
Capitol, as seen in the screenshot below. Once inside the office, SULLIVAN
approaches a window, also seen in the screenshot below, and states, “We did this
s***. We took this s***.”

k. Eventually, individuals in the crowd outside the doors announce that the
officers are leaving and “giving us the building.” As the crowd begins to part so the
officers can leave, SULLIVAN can be heard saying, “Haul that m********* out
this b****.”]/b]

https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1354781/download

Sullivan was talking about doing a documentary before the Capitol riot. A documentary about him and his group and their protests. It's supposedly going to be a Netflix documentary. At least that's what he claimed which I doubt is true.

He was with a woman named Jade, supposedly a film maker, who was also filming the riot. But they both were involved in the riot. Especially Sullivan aka Jayden X.

Then Sullivan was on CNN being interviewed by Anderson Cooper acting all innocent claiming to be a journalist and that he was only filming the riot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7PXvchh2WQ&feature=emb_title

John Sullivan, the 26-year-old left-wing activist who recorded up-close video of a woman’s fatal shooting during the Capitol siege Jan. 6, was released without bail on a handful of federal charges.

During a virtual hearing Friday, a federal judge in Utah said prosecutors failed to meet the legal threshold to keep him in custody as he awaits further court proceedings.

Sullivan is required to stay off of social media, surrender his passport and be on house arrest. He also will have to stop working for the Insurgence USA activist group he founded, although he won't have to cede control.

In addition, Sullivan, who posed with a rifle at protests over the summer, is now prohibited from possessing firearms.

Black Lives Matter Utah told Fox News Friday that Sullivan is not a member, has never attended a meeting, and that he has no association with the group.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/judge-utah-conditional-release-john-sullivan-bail

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