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Author Topic: Time? What is it? How does it work? Is there existence without it?  (Read 4051 times)

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@Grace_Accepted - We need you back here preachin' brother. For the people. We don't have a lot of time.
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Is God Temporal or Timeless? (Part 1 of 2) (William Lane Craig)


Robert Lawrence Kuhn (host of PBS' "Closer to Truth") asks William Lane Craig about God's personal relationship with time. Questions explored: If God is timeless how can He be active in the temporal world? Who is Soren Kierkegaard? Does it makes sense to talk about a timeless person? Does time affect God? Or does God affect time? Does God have a future? How does Evil and time effect one another? How does God work in time if He were in time? How does God work in time if He were timeless? How would God be in a tensed theory of time? How would God be in a tenseless theory of time?



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Is God Temporal or Timeless? (Part 2 of 2) (William Lane Craig)


Robert Lawrence Kuhn (host of PBS' "Closer to Truth") interviews William Lane Craig about whether God is temporal or timeless. Questions explored: Why did it take God so long to create us? What did Leibniz argue against Newton? How did this entail that time had a beginning? How did a timeless God create a temporal universe? Does God change His characteristics in creating time? In what sense is God eternal with relation to time? Can God go back in time and undo what was done? If God works in time is he "locked" in time forever? When God works in time is He "limited"?


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Time is measured by change.  When things change very little time rushes by but when there is great change time seems much longer.  That is why when we are kids time seemed like forever but as we matured and changes in our lives slowed down, time seems to rush by.


I do not accept your premise....this speaks to the awareness of time passing which does not affect the nature of time passing in the least. I suggest that time is not measured by change but time measures change. If nothing ever changed, there would be no time.


IF something IS changing, then the rate of change is timed....time measures the rate of change.


This puts the whole theology that GOD is outside of time (theological pentecostalism) into absurdity. Even if the Trinity is denied, GOD could still not have a thought outside of time because there must be a start of the thought, a middle and an end to the thought plus the time between the end of the thought and the next thought. Multiply this by 3 people talking with each other and time is a must.
Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil


Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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Time is measured by change.  When things change very little time rushes by but when there is great change time seems much longer.  That is why when we are kids time seemed like forever but as we matured and changes in our lives slowed down, time seems to rush by.


I do not accept your premise....this speaks to the awareness of time passing which does not affect the nature of time passing in the least. I suggest that time is not measured by change but time measures change. If nothing ever changed, there would be no time.


IF something IS changing, then the rate of change is timed....time measures the rate of change.


This puts the whole theology that GOD is outside of time (theological pentecostalism) into absurdity. Even if the Trinity is denied, GOD could still not have a thought outside of time because there must be a start of the thought, a middle and an end to the thought plus the time between the end of the thought and the next thought. Multiply this by 3 people talking with each other and time is a must.

Time is a dimension. The bible speaks of five of them that I know of. There are those that say it (the Bible) speaks of ten dimensions.

Time began for us when the earth was created. we are close to three and one-half dimensional...We can only view time in the past. The time of the present is only there for a time period of 10 to the (-45 power). The twinkle of an eye.  Our  future cannot be seen.

Jesus Christ is beyond time. He is extra-terrestrial.
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Time is measured by change.  When things change very little time rushes by but when there is great change time seems much longer.  That is why when we are kids time seemed like forever but as we matured and changes in our lives slowed down, time seems to rush by.


I do not accept your premise....this speaks to the awareness of time passing which does not affect the nature of time passing in the least. I suggest that time is not measured by change but time measures change. If nothing ever changed, there would be no time.


IF something IS changing, then the rate of change is timed....time measures the rate of change.


This puts the whole theology that GOD is outside of time (theological pentecostalism) into absurdity. Even if the Trinity is denied, GOD could still not have a thought outside of time because there must be a start of the thought, a middle and an end to the thought plus the time between the end of the thought and the next thought. Multiply this by 3 people talking with each other and time is a must.

Time is a dimension. The bible speaks of five of them that I know of. There are those that say it (the Bible) speaks of ten dimensions.

Time began for us when the earth was created. we are close to three and one-half dimensional...We can only view time in the past. The time of the present is only there for a time period of 10 to the (-45 power). The twinkle of an eye.  Our  future cannot be seen.

Jesus Christ is beyond time. He is extra-terrestrial.
Good post Bladey
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Time is up
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Time is up

time is the 4th dimension as we see in the bible. The Bible suggest 11 dimensions and our scientist agree. God stands outside of time, We are 3 dimensional yet we enjoy one third of the time dimension, the past.

we can measure time and the smallest is 10 to the minus forty-third power. Called a "Plank time" It is the time it takes light traveling at 186,000 mi/hour to travel from the cornea of the eye tor the retina.

Time started on earth when GOD said let there be light. until then the earth was in darkness. Time has to have some way to be measured and with the creation of light to hide the darkness every 12 hours, there would be no time.

Experiments have been performed with a person was placed in a room devoid of light, sound, etc. with the only mention of time being the dinner bell (delivery of food) which occurred at different hours.  The person lost their mind.

We (our Fleshly body) needs time to function yet except for the plank time (our present time) , we judge our time by the Past.

God on the other hand is beyond time in so many ways. The Bible not only tells us this through Idioms, but shows us this in its scripture.

Our bodies will be like Him, Bodies of Light for we can see him. Thus what ever dimensions He enjoys, it appears we will enjoy them as well including being Outside of time.


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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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