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Why did Jesus come?
« on: March 22, 2021, 10:34:36 am »
I was thinking this AM about all the wonderful things we have because of Christ and His Love. So my question is, why did Christ come, was it only about salvation, whatever view you have of atonement/salvation or did He come for more? If your answer is more, please explain what the more is...

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Re: Why did Jesus come?
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2021, 11:56:58 am »
I was thinking this AM about all the wonderful things we have because of Christ and His Love. So my question is, why did Christ come, was it only about salvation, whatever view you have of atonement/salvation or did He come for more? If your answer is more, please explain what the more is...
All the wonderful things?  ;D Indeed. You'd have to go back closer to the beginning. Not the beginning as in Genesis 1:1 but before creation, when the Son proceeded forth from the Father and His Spirit. The fact is, it's unknown and can't be known. We can only propose educated guesses; theories.


After a considerable amount of thought about this throughout my life, I think God always was, is and will be, and I think God desired to share Himself, His love, His spirit, His wisdom, peace, joy, completeness and Oneness with Him. How can we possibly describe these things? The Glory? Can we comprehend? No we can't. Can we apprehend? Slightly, I believe.


After all, we see though a glass darkly . . .




The Way of Love

13 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned,[a] but have not love, I gain nothing.

4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant 5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. 7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

8 Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways.
12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.

13 So now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: Why did Jesus come?
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2021, 12:27:15 pm »
So then, God foresaw that His creations would experience evil and He has a plan in action. Sending His only begotten Son to save us if we choose to believe His words and do them. As scripture says, Jesus came to save Israel originally.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: Why did Jesus come?
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2021, 11:11:57 pm »
So then, God foresaw that His creations would experience evil and He has a plan in action. Sending His only begotten Son to save us if we choose to believe His words and do them. As scripture says, Jesus came to save Israel originally.


all but the last I agree....for it was foretold that Jesus would come to save the world long before Abraham. Look to GEN 3: 15.."And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

The woman's seed is the Key.

then in Gen 5 and the Generations of Adam. The meanings of the names of these men from Adam to Noah, produce a prophecy that was fulfilled 2000 years ago. It would read as follows:

"'Man (is) Appointed Mortal Sorrow (but) The Blessed God Shall Come Down Teaching His Death Shall Bring (the) Despairing Comfort, Rest!'"


Again a long time before Abraham.

There are also many prophecies even after God (the father) had chosen Israel as His people. Isa 53 is one of the most beautiful renditions of the Gospel of Jesus Christ 750 years before His appearance and just prior to the capture of the Northern by the Assyrian Empire and the  Southern Kingdom by Babylonian Empire. 

Jesus saving the World through His death was an achievement that was planned out eons prior to the creation of the earth and mankind.


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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Why did Jesus come?
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2021, 09:43:59 am »
The Son came to die as a human to fulfill His promise of election to heaven as His Bride made to those few elect who later chose to rebel and go astray into sin, probably in rebellion to the command to come out for among the reprobate who followed Satan's rejection of YHWH and touch not their uncleanness.

Though believing in YHWH's claims to Deity and accepting our only salvation from sin was to be found in the Son, we could not accept the judgement and destruction of our friends who chose to reject HIM as a liar and false god and so we became the sinful good seed, the sheep gone astray, needing to be redeemed.

His love is who HE is, not necessarily something He came to do or to demonstrate...
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Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil


Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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Re: Why did Jesus come?
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2021, 06:53:44 pm »
The Son came to die as a human to fulfill His promise of election to heaven as His Bride made to those few elect who later chose to rebel and go astray into sin, probably in rebellion to the command to come out for among the reprobate who followed Satan's rejection of YHWH and touch not their uncleanness.

Though believing in YHWH's claims to Deity and accepting our only salvation from sin was to be found in the Son, we could not accept the judgement and destruction of our friends who chose to reject HIM as a liar and false god and so we became the sinful good seed, the sheep gone astray, needing to be redeemed.

His love is who HE is, not necessarily something He came to do or to demonstrate...



From what I read Ted.....God loses none of His Elect.

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: Why did Jesus come?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2021, 11:40:57 pm »
Franklin Graham reacts to Biden omitting 'God' from National Day of Prayer



Biden is the first president to omit the word God from proclamation; Reverend and Samaritan's Purse President weighs in


5 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsz0NBaA0lk
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: Why did Jesus come?
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2021, 05:29:20 pm »
 ;)
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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