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Re: Where is the power?
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2020, 07:05:24 am »
I'm sorry Lori, I was in a sad state when I sent that.
No worries...I agree the power is in Christ's death and resurrection and saving grace...but He has also promised to send the HS and that HS is the power in our lives...if we are denying that power, the Heb. passage says we are to be denied as well...iow's the power of the indwelling HS is the power that goes beyond His saving grace and gives us life abundantly in the here and now.
I'm not sure exactly but I know I don't qualify, at least I don't believe so. When one's thought is the same as or in accordance with the holy spirit then that is holy and righteous thought, leading to deeds and actions. Also, I see holy and righteous as synonymous really. How can we align our thoughts with the HS? I feel far away from that accomplishment.
scripture tells us to renew our minds, but it also says to take our thoughts captive and think on the things of God.

Brian had a battle over sin that almost ended our marriage.  He can tell you more if you want, about how he overcame, but it involved changing his heart and thoughts, relying on God for his strength.  In fact, I often counsel people to find a way to remind yourself that God is your King, things like key passages posted places you often look,l like mirrors, frig, etc. I put passages in my car when I was on the road a lot and thus was reminded every time I stopped.  Find a keyword, like in this environment, maybe, "corona" or "new normal" something you will hear a lot, and every time you hear that word, pray.  We suggested that to our SS and one of the women chose the word, "I" because she was having trouble with self getting in the way.  There are a lot of ways to remind ourselves to be ever mindful and in the constant presence of the Living God.

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Re: Where is the power?
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2020, 07:07:17 am »
I'm sorry Lori, I was in a sad state when I sent that.
No worries...I agree the power is in Christ's death and resurrection and saving grace...but He has also promised to send the HS and that HS is the power in our lives...if we are denying that power, the Heb. passage says we are to be denied as well...iow's the power of the indwelling HS is the power that goes beyond His saving grace and gives us life abundantly in the here and now.
I'm not sure exactly but I know I don't qualify, at least I don't believe so. When one's thought is the same as or in accordance with the holy spirit then that is holy and righteous thought, leading to deeds and actions. Also, I see holy and righteous as synonymous really. How can we align our thoughts with the HS? I feel far away from that accomplishment.
First, I believe that righteousness is to be without sin....second, we align our thoughts with the HS through the renewing of our minds...Romans 12:2...we do that through taking our thoughts captive 2 Corinthians 10:5 and put those thoughts on the things of God...Philippians 4:8...Finally, I have a question for you, you don't have to answer it, but at least meditate on is....IF Christ came to overcome both sin and death, how can you believe you will be resurrected into heaven (His power over death) if He hasn't given you the power over sin?  Wouldn't that be His failure to overcome both sin and death power?

I'm not suggesting that we don't give in to our desires for sin, but that His power over sin is as much ours as His power over death is ours if we only tap into that power and use it as He designed for us to do so.

Good morning Lori..Hope you are feeling better today...

I question your last statement in that it appears you are saying the power of the HS is limited by our Free will when He is within us?

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To a degree it is...else scripture would not command us to yield to Him and to NOT grieve Him...if we have no will, how can we grieve Him?  How can we not yield if we have no will to disobey His commands?

Of course we have free will but the power of the HS is not diminished. It is there, it may not be used but it is there.

Blade
absolutely...the key is whether or not we "tap" into it...just like I said and you challenged.

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Re: Where is the power?
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