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What techniques do you use...
« on: August 22, 2021, 01:43:16 pm »
What techniques do you use to reconcile things when what you know as fact does NOT fit your emotions?

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Re: What techniques do you use...
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2021, 02:30:53 pm »
What techniques do you use to reconcile things when what you know as fact does NOT fit your emotions?
Tell me some of the facts and I'll tell you how I might feel about them.

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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2021, 02:59:50 pm »
What techniques do you use to reconcile things when what you know as fact does NOT fit your emotions?
Tell me some of the facts and I'll tell you how I might feel about them.
One common one I see a lot is that we are alone when we know that God is with us....
Another common one is that I (self) has no value...
Another common one is that we have an award waiting for us that is greater than the rewards we see others living in right now....


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Re: What techniques do you use...
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2021, 03:15:37 pm »
What techniques do you use to reconcile things when what you know as fact does NOT fit your emotions?
Tell me some of the facts and I'll tell you how I might feel about them.
One common one I see a lot is that we are alone when we know that God is with us....
Another common one is that I (self) has no value...
Another common one is that we have an award waiting for us that is greater than the rewards we see others living in right now....
Yeah, I feel like I haven't much value. I also feel alone, lonely and desperate for God's love. I feel "needy" of the Lord but I don't often pray for myself. I also don't expect any rewards as far as extra rewards go. I'm content to be in heaven with the Lord for eternity, that's more than enough for me.

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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2021, 06:41:05 pm »
So maybe at least part of the answer is to pray not only for ourselves to understand who we are in Christ (and study it in scripture) but to pray for each other in the body to be able to see who they are in Christ as well showing them every chance we get.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2021, 12:12:05 am »
What techniques do you use to reconcile things when what you know as fact does NOT fit your emotions?
In addition to what has already been said, I just want to say that it seems there are people who care more about emotions than facts and we see that in the world today. For example, I know that I'm a woman and not a man. That's a fact. No matter if my emotions would lead me to want to believe otherwise, there's no changing the facts about that. That's never been a problem for me because I know exactly who I am. But there are people who because of their emotions want to believe that even though they are a man, they want to believe they are a woman. Likewise there are women who even though they are a woman want to believe they are a man because of emotions and not facts. And they expect everybody else to accept and believe who and what they believe they are even though it's not based on facts but emotions. So since it's not based on facts, I won't be accepting and believing that about them. Especially since scripture is quite clear about this and has the final say on the matter.
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Isa. 29:15Woe to those who dig deep to hide their plans from the LORD.
In darkness they do their works and say,“Who sees us, and who will know?”
16You have turned things upside down,..
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Eph. 5:11 Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, expose and rebuke them.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Re: What techniques do you use...
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2021, 10:31:11 am »
What techniques do you use to reconcile things when what you know as fact does NOT fit your emotions?
In addition to what has already been said, I just want to say that it seems there are people who care more about emotions than facts and we see that in the world today. For example, I know that I'm a woman and not a man. That's a fact. No matter if my emotions would lead me to want to believe otherwise, there's no changing the facts about that. That's never been a problem for me because I know exactly who I am. But there are people who because of their emotions want to believe that even though they are a man, they want to believe they are a woman. Likewise there are women who even though they are a woman want to believe they are a man because of emotions and not facts. And they expect everybody else to accept and believe who and what they believe they are even though it's not based on facts but emotions. So since it's not based on facts, I won't be accepting and believing that about them. Especially since scripture is quite clear about this and has the final say on the matter.
Very good point and I was also thinking about people who view their theology the same way...rather than looking at facts, they are content to hold to what their emotions tell them.

Another big one I see a lot is fear.  So maybe sometimes it is good to remind ourselves and others we might be ministering to what the facts tell us.
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Re: What techniques do you use...
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2021, 12:25:42 pm »
What techniques do you use to reconcile things when what you know as fact does NOT fit your emotions?
Tell me some of the facts and I'll tell you how I might feel about them.
One common one I see a lot is that we are alone when we know that God is with us....
Another common one is that I (self) has no value...
Another common one is that we have an award waiting for us that is greater than the rewards we see others living in right now....
Yeah, I feel like I haven't much value. I also feel alone, lonely and desperate for God's love. I feel "needy" of the Lord but I don't often pray for myself. I also don't expect any rewards as far as extra rewards go. I'm content to be in heaven with the Lord for eternity, that's more than enough for me.
I should clarify, by adding that this is only sometimes and these feeling, thoughts and emotions I expressed feeling are only in my weak moments and transgressions.
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Re: What techniques do you use...
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2021, 01:47:38 pm »
That is okay, we can still pray for you and encourage you.

Actually a lot of people suffer with feeling worthless, I fall prey to it at times again, especially when I am low but that doesn't mean we can't build one another up when we have a chance and remind each other who we are in Christ.  I remember posting a list of who we are in Christ...feel free to print that list and post it where you can see it everyday, as a reaffirming of who you are.
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Re: What techniques do you use...
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2021, 12:14:51 am »
That is okay, we can still pray for you and encourage you.

Actually a lot of people suffer with feeling worthless, I fall prey to it at times again, especially when I am low but that doesn't mean we can't build one another up when we have a chance and remind each other who we are in Christ.  I remember posting a list of who we are in Christ...feel free to print that list and post it where you can see it everyday, as a reaffirming of who you are.
I felt worthless for many years. That might have something to do with being abandoned by my parents and being thrown to the wolves at a young age. I don't feel worthless anymore. I know that God loves me. I feel blessed in many ways and I'm thankful.
Psalm 27:10 Though my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will receive me.
Romans 8:38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Isa. 29:15Woe to those who dig deep to hide their plans from the LORD.
In darkness they do their works and say,“Who sees us, and who will know?”
16You have turned things upside down,..
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Eph. 5:11 Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, expose and rebuke them.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Re: What techniques do you use...
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2021, 10:32:41 am »
That is okay, we can still pray for you and encourage you.

Actually a lot of people suffer with feeling worthless, I fall prey to it at times again, especially when I am low but that doesn't mean we can't build one another up when we have a chance and remind each other who we are in Christ.  I remember posting a list of who we are in Christ...feel free to print that list and post it where you can see it everyday, as a reaffirming of who you are.
I felt worthless for many years. That might have something to do with being abandoned by my parents and being thrown to the wolves at a young age. I don't feel worthless anymore. I know that God loves me. I feel blessed in many ways and I'm thankful.
Psalm 27:10 Though my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will receive me.
Romans 8:38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
My biggest obstacle with getting over how I was treated at a young age, is that the lack of "value" continues to this day.  Just a week ago, my husband kept saying, "I wish people would stop trying to kill my wife"...whether depraved indifference or something else, it is a daily part of our lives here and it does get to me once in awhile when I am weak from all the attacks.  Mostly I don't let myself think about it....I just keep reminding myself that it is about God and not me and that usually is enough...but I would be lying if I said there is never a time it gets to me.

 

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