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Author Topic: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning  (Read 3127 times)

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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2019, 11:03:18 pm »
Planets as globe shaped physical objects don't exist. The GAP theory is dead wrong. God didn't wait 4.5 billion years to create man on earth and the "universe" you imagine does not exist. Earth is at the center of existence and everything moves above the earth . . . even Polaris just slightly.

Which Gap Theory is wrong Bro? The "millions and billions of years gap"? Because I understand it very differently. I don't see God as a created being, you know, a person, like Angels are beings, the son Word is a being, the Holy Spirit, he is a being, we are beings, and beings are product of creation, the first one of which was Gods son Word, just as it say in John 1:1-14
Father-God is NOT a being, nor can two other beings make up, or be part of Infinite and Eternal Spirit/Mind "I Am", it's an impossibility, no-created-thing can be part of Infinite, nor can anything be besides Infinite because Infinite is without borders.
All things are In God/Infinite.

Remember that there were stars/Angels rejoicing when God set the foundations of the earth. In Genesis 1:1 which says "In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth" He did that through and for the son., and I know He did every creation through the son Word, so we know there was at least one created "being" along with God before God created the Heaven.

And since: John 1:3 All things were made through him (the son Word), and without Him nothing was made that was made. then according to scripture, Heaven was made for the son Word, where later God created many other beings like Angels, Cherubim's etc..  and this is where God made His throne too. Here is what we know:

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

We know this is separate from verse 2 because the waters and chaos was already there. When did God created the waters that covered the earth, there is no mention of it? We have Heaven and the earth, but it doesn't mention Him creating the earth without form, and void; and darkness upon the face of the deep, only we have Genesis 1:1 God created the Heaven and the earth, so this water must be the result of a previous time, when Lucifer inhabited the earth.

Ezekiel 28: “You were the seal of perfection,
Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God;
Every precious stone was your covering:


When was the King of Tyra in Eden the Garden of God? So this is about Lucifer, because like in Mathew 16:23 Jesus saying to Peter "Get behind me Satan" he wasn't saying Peter was Satan, but that he was acting/speaking like Satan. The same with the King of Tyra, the Prophet was told to remind him he was acting like Lucifer the destroyer, and how he too will be brought down to ruin.

16 “By the abundance of your trading
You became filled with violence within,
And you sinned;
.. 17 “Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty;
You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor;
.. 18 “You defiled your sanctuaries
By the multitude of your iniquities,
By the iniquity of your trading;


And we know that the judgements mentioned both in Ezekiel and in Isaiah will come upon Lucifer/Satan when Jesus arrives, and after our Thousand Year reign with him. So since Lucifer ruined the earth and left it in chaos, he must have gone back up to Heaven to cause trouble there, because in Job we see that he was still able to travel between Heaven, and his old home earth as we see it here;

Job 1:6  (KJV)
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.


So Satan and his Angels after leaving the earth in chaos moved back up to Heaven, when God fixed the earth he and his angels who are still considered as sons of God did this:

Genesis 6:Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.

so from Eve's deception in the Garden of Eden (lucifer's old home) past Noah's flood, .. past Job, .. past the son Word's birth here on earth and named Jesus the Christ, he was still traveling back and forth between Heaven and earth, because we see him here:

Mathew 4 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
.. 8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”


so we see that he's still the god of this earth with authority to give it away when speaking with jesus:  “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.” So then Jesus spoke up to His Disciples: “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven." This is not in the past tense, it sounds like Jesus just saw this in a vision. In Revelations 12 we see exactly what happened, and Jesus here from earth seen as the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, like lightning from heaven! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

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Revelations 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Luke 10:18  (NKJV)
18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."


Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”
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2 Now the earth was formless and void (empty), darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.


let there be order, and there was order, just as Jesus brought light;  order/sense/reason into our time on this earth.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

divided/separated good and bad, because with God in Heaven there is only good, and here God saw chaos, disorder.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

For the first time in creation God seen disorder, and He made a distinction between order and disorder, between good and evil, between light and darkness, between day and night. This is why I believe that God created the sun and the moon, because once the earth was corrupted, He could no longer be the Light of it. But we see that in that New earth and new Heaven, He will once again be its light, so no need for the sun or moon.

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

so we see God split the waters in half with a firmament/dome

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

sounds like God used the air to divide the firmament along with the waters above the firmament, from the earth and sea below

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

this is going to be where God puts the stars

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good


So we have the 'waters above, then the firmament holding it, or separating it there called the heaven above, then the air beneath the firmament, and here we have God separating the land from the seas

then it goes on explaining what God made on earth:

11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” ..
.. 14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; 15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so.


we see that the "light" here is not the light in verse 3. The light here which are the stars, the sun and the moon are to distinguish our days and nights, this has nothing to do with Gods Days/Nights morning/evenings of fixing up the earth and finishing up the rest of creation on earth. There was no sun or moon when God was doing this, nor does God need them, .. so this light was for us man.

And for Globe earthers;  we see God putting the stars up above the firmament/vault, which means they are in the "waters above", and only German Astronauts can go to planets in the water above the firmament where God put the stars.

Hmm, .. maybe that's why NASA has their Astronauts practicing in giant pools with scuba gear!? Maybe they're hoping to break through the dome/firmament and travel the underwater galaxies to their god-planets? Hey, they could call that "Voyage to the Top of the sea"



This is the way I understand this Gap between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, .. a lot has happened on earth before God decided to make man in His image, and woman to represent His son Word "Let 'us' make man in our own image, in our own likeness"
So just as in the Beginning was the Word, and the son Word was with God, and he was God before God beget/created him, Eve was in the beginning with Adam, and she WAS Adam before God took her out of him (rib).

TIME - Carbon dating - etc.

In the original Heaven and earth creation Genesis 1:1 there was no sun or moon, they were created later for us men made from the dust of the earth, just as there will be no sun or moon on that new earth for the glory of God illuminated it.

No death recorded anywhere in the Bible before the fall of man, and from what we read, Lucifer (or any created being by God who were created to inhabit the earth were not restricted to the earth, but could travel to Heaven, and between Heaven and earth at will.

Revelation 21:1 Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. .. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, .. 22 But I saw ]no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23 The city had no need of the sun or of the moon to shine in it, for the glory of God illuminated it. The Lamb is its light. 24 And the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its light, and the kings of the earth bring their glory and honor into it.

So carbon dating past the creation of the sun and the moon is worthless, they can claim whatever they want, from 6,000 years which is as far as any accurate time-dating could be possible, ..  to 66.6 trillion years, would depend what story they're trying to prove?
 We live on a refurbished earth, and because of the chaos Lucifer created here, God could no longer be the Light of this now tainted world, which is why God made the sun and the moon .. and the stars.

This is how I understand the Gap theory, which according to the Bible, the whole Bible, is not a theory but fact.

And since they are desperately hiding the chaos, earth without form, what the darkness upon the face of the deep that Satan and his angels caused on earth before our creation here, we are left with many, many questions unanswered. But little by little it's all coming to light, thank the Lord!

You seen this video right? This is for others here to kind of wake up, think of what may have been here before we arrived. Discoveries all being hidden, or defaced, History perverted, we have to look beyond this to see what the Gap really was?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFrLkNrATGA&list=PLbxYtfaixKzAvlLr8L477AC2CwA9QX_sA


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