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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
« Reply #65 on: March 29, 2019, 07:52:06 pm »
Dear Readers,
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Since, God continues to create sinners in Christ, it means that we still live today at Gen 1:27 because God is STILL creating Adam (mankind) in Christ. We will NOT advance to the prophecy of Gen 1:28-31 until AFTER Jesus returns.

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Or not...   IF the false doctrine of our being created on earth was made up to support the blasphemy that we are created inheriting Adam's sin, but in fact we were ALL created at least 6000 years ago in the spirit world (what is or became Sheol) and became sinners  by our own free will decisions about where to put  our faith,


then the blasphemy of our being created as sinners (GOD CANNOT CREATE EVIL!) on earth is done, over, dead in the water...a blessing to all who believe in GOD's righteousness in their hearts not just on their lips.

Hi Ted...... You said:"but in fact we were ALL created at least 6000 years ago in the spirit world (what is or became Sheol) and became sinners  by our own free will decisions about where to put  our faith,"

In otherwords, God created everyone from Adam till today as a spirit and does what with them? You said, they await in Sheol?  and Became sinner by our own free will?

Just wanted to make sure that was what you were talking about.

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
« Reply #66 on: March 30, 2019, 01:50:48 pm »
 
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In otherwords, God created everyone from Adam till today as a spirit and does what with them? You said, they await in Sheol?  and Became sinner by our own free will?


Those elect who never sinned stayed in the heavenly realms and some serve GOD as HIS messengers…angel meaning sent out one or messenger, NOT a race or species of being. My suggestion is that those elect who chose by their free will to rebel against the call for the judgment upon their Satanic friends were sent to one of the rooms of Sheol.



The Satanic non-elect were flung to earth, Rev 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. .
These people of the evil one are sown into the world by the devil, Matt 13:38 and the field is the world; and as for the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; 39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil,…where did they come from?
Then they die and return to where they came from, Sheol: Ps 9:17  The wicked shall return to Sheol, all the nations that forget God. It is logical that this is where the sinful good seed, the sinful people of the kingdom also came from as Job suggests when he states that when he dies he is returning to where he was before his birth...(he is not suggesting he return to the womb nor annihilation).

The sinful elect were flung to the earth by Satan, Rev 12:4 His tail swept a third of the stars from the sky, tossing them to the earth. It is not logical thing for him to send away any of his cohorts just before his big battle with Michael and since the world flung has a violent, hateful, implication, it seems likely that these stars were the sinful elect, sent down into Sheol by Satan’s luring them into sin.

All sinners were sent to Sheol in the center of the earth to sequester them from polite heavenly society. From there everyone is sown into the world by their fathers, that is, either by the Son of Man (GOD) or the devil, for the redemption of HIS sinful elect, the good but sinful seed.
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
« Reply #67 on: March 30, 2019, 01:57:54 pm »
 
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I know it takes an extra minute or two but we don't have the scripture reading app here so if you could just copy/paste the verses from the Bible version of your choice it would help me personally and everybody else. I like where this is going Ted.
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Done!
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
« Reply #68 on: March 30, 2019, 02:11:56 pm »
That's some pretty deep thinking even though you were just summarizing. I can understand what you're describing and I'd also like to ask a favor of you. I know it takes an extra minute or two but we don't have the scripture reading app here so if you could just copy/paste the verses from the Bible version of your choice it would help me personally and everybody else. I like where this is going Ted.
I'd be glad to do that with every verse, no problem at all.


But I cannot figure out how to use the go to my last post, I can't find the link. IF I reply to post 4 and the topic is 9 pages long and then I leave, when I come back it is 16 pages long and I am lost...I don't remember where I was reading  but I could get to it from my last post if I could find it. <sigh>

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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
« Reply #69 on: March 30, 2019, 02:14:48 pm »
I was going to go back and include full quotes but I can't find a modify or edit link in that or my latest post at all...

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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
« Reply #70 on: March 30, 2019, 03:07:15 pm »
I was going to go back and include full quotes but I can't find a modify or edit link in that or my latest post at all...
I will check your permissions. Yeah, I'm sorry brother but this is an older format and we don't get notifications if somebody quotes us or posts in a thread we started. All new posts are shown at the right side of the screen and on the far left in the statistics section, at the top you can click All Unread Posts. It just takes a little more effort here to navigate and post correctly but you'll get it.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins, the gospel of our salvation, and repenting, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
« Reply #71 on: March 31, 2019, 01:01:23 am »
 
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In otherwords, God created everyone from Adam till today as a spirit and does what with them? You said, they await in Sheol?  and Became sinner by our own free will?


Those elect who never sinned stayed in the heavenly realms and some serve GOD as HIS messengers…angel meaning sent out one or messenger, NOT a race or species of being. My suggestion is that those elect who chose by their free will to rebel against the call for the judgment upon their Satanic friends were sent to one of the rooms of Sheol.



The Satanic non-elect were flung to earth, Rev 12:9.
These people of the evil one are sown into the world by the devil, Matt 13:38-39…where did they come from?
Then they die and return to where they came from, Sheol: Ps 9:17. It is logical that this is where the sinful good seed, the sinful people of the kingdom also came from as Job suggests when he states that when he dies he is returning to where he was before his birth...(he is not suggesting he return to the womb nor annihilation).


The sinful elect were flung to the earth by Satan, Rev 12:4. His tail swept a third of the stars from the sky, tossing them to the earth. It is not logical thing for him to send away any of his cohorts just before his big battle with Michael and since the world flung has a violent, hateful, implication, it seems likely that these stars were the sinful elect, sent down into Sheol by Satan’s luring them into sin.


All sinners were sent to Sheol in the center of the earth to sequester them from polite heavenly society. From there everyone is sown into the world by their fathers, that is, either by the Son of Man (GOD) or the devil, for the redemption of HIS sinful elect, the good but sinful seed.
That's some pretty deep thinking even though you were just summarizing. I can understand what you're describing and I'd also like to ask a favor of you. I know it takes an extra minute or two but we don't have the scripture reading app here so if you could just copy/paste the verses from the Bible version of your choice it would help me personally and everybody else. I like where this is going Ted.

Am not sure TED, why you are calling the angels "elect". Care to elaborate?

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
« Reply #72 on: April 01, 2019, 02:22:07 pm »
Am not sure TED, why you are calling the angels "elect". Care to elaborate?



If all the eternally evil angels were flung to the earth then who is left? 1 Timothy 5:21 I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the ELECT angels...

AND

the holy angels: Luke 9:26 If anyone is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the HOLY angels.

The parable of the good seed tells us there are sinful elect on earth and in Luke and 1 Timothy we find there are holy elect angels in heaven...

I wonder when the holy and elect were separated from the sinful elect so the sinful elect could be sent to earth as Matt 13:38 The field is the world, and the good seed represents the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. Where sown cannot mean create as the devil does it too so it must mean to move.
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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
« Reply #73 on: April 01, 2019, 09:57:50 pm »
Am not sure TED, why you are calling the angels "elect". Care to elaborate?



If all the eternally evil angels were flung to the earth then who is left? 1 Timothy 5:21 I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the ELECT angels...

AND

the holy angels: Luke 9:26 If anyone is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory and in the glory of the Father and of the HOLY angels.

The parable of the good seed tells us there are sinful elect on earth and in Luke and 1 Timothy we find there are holy elect angels in heaven...

I wonder when the holy and elect were separated from the sinful elect so the sinful elect could be sent to earth as Matt 13:38 The field is the world, and the good seed represents the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. Where sown cannot mean create as the devil does it too so it must mean to move.


Thank you

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Re: Understanding Genesis 1&2 - The Beginning
« Reply #74 on: June 12, 2019, 04:41:34 am »
Great topic.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins, the gospel of our salvation, and repenting, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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