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patrick jane

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Re: The value of a man...
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2019, 05:03:47 am »
Yeah Billy, when?
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins, the gospel of our salvation, and repenting, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: The value of a man...
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2019, 04:33:11 pm »
You are wrong. Adam and Eve had children born in their own image. Christ was conceived in the virgin's womb, without sin. He died the Just for the unjust.

God loves man despite what he is.

so when did God remove His image from the Adam and Eve creation?

The Bible tells us Jesus is the last ADAM.

1 CO 15:45-49 (KJV).."And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit."V46..Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. V47..The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven..V48..As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly..V49..And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly."

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Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: The value of a man...
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2019, 09:08:52 pm »
Quote from: Lori Bolinger
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so when did God remove His image from the Adam and Eve creation?
Good question, when?

Gen. 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.KJV

I've been thinking about this. What do we make of James 3:9?

New International Version
With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse human beings, who have been made in God's likeness.

New Living Translation
Sometimes it praises our Lord and Father, and sometimes it curses those who have been made in the image of God.

English Standard Version
With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people who are made in the likeness of God.

Berean Study Bible
With the tongue we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God’s likeness.

Berean Literal Bible
With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, those being made according to the likeness of God.

New American Standard Bible
With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the likeness of God;

King James Bible
Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

Christian Standard Bible
With the tongue we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people who are made in God's likeness.

Good News Translation
We use it to give thanks to our Lord and Father and also to curse other people, who are created in the likeness of God.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
We praise our Lord and Father with it, and we curse men who are made in God's likeness with it.

International Standard Version
With it we bless the Lord and Father, and with it we curse those who are made in God's likeness.

NET Bible
With it we bless the Lord and Father, and with it we curse people made in God's image.

New Heart English Bible
With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people, who are made in the image of God.


Aramaic Bible in Plain English
With it we bless THE LORD JEHOVAH and The Father; with it we curse the children of men who are made in the image of God.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
With our tongues we praise our Lord and Father. Yet, with the same tongues we curse people, who were created in God's likeness.

New American Standard 1977
With it we bless our Lord and Father; and with it we curse men, who have been made in the likeness of God;

Jubilee Bible 2000
With it we bless God, even the Father; and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God.

King James 2000 Bible
With this bless we God, even the Father; and with this curse we men, who are made after the similitude of God.

American King James Version
Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

American Standard Version
Therewith bless we the Lord and Father; and therewith curse we men, who are made after the likeness of God:

Douay-Rheims Bible
By it we bless God and the Father: and by it we curse men, who are made after the likeness of God.

Darby Bible Translation
Therewith bless we the Lord and Father, and therewith curse we men made after [the] likeness of God.

English Revised Version
Therewith bless we the Lord and Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the likeness of God:

Webster's Bible Translation
With this we bless God, even the Father; and with this we curse men, who are made after the similitude of God.

Weymouth New Testament
With it we bless the Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in God's likeness.

World English Bible
With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God.

Young's Literal Translation
with it we do bless the God and Father, and with it we do curse the men made according to the similitude of God;
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Re: The value of a man...
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2019, 02:45:52 pm »
You are wrong.

After Adam and Eve sinned they had children born in their own image. The cross fully shows what God thinks about the natural man.


Mankind is not a natural man as if created this way - mankind is sinful man, not created this way nor forced to be sinful by the whim of GOD by making him in Adam's image...but by every sinner's free will decison to sin a known sin.


The cross shows GOD's dedication to HIS promise of election given to those innocents who put their faith, their unproven hope, in HIS claims to be our GOD and Saviour from any future sin.
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