+- +-

+- User

Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
 
 
 
Forgot your password?

+-Stats ezBlock

Members
Total Members: 119
Latest: Bella_777
New This Month: 2
New This Week: 0
New Today: 0
Stats
Total Posts: 17187
Total Topics: 878
Most Online Today: 421
Most Online Ever: 771
(July 30, 2019, 01:13:39 am)
Users Online
Members: 1
Guests: 119
Total: 120

Author Topic: The schemes of Satan  (Read 3843 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Lori Bolinger

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 628
  • Karma: +1010/-0
  • Referrals: 0
The schemes of Satan
« on: October 16, 2018, 09:57:57 am »
I can't find it now but someone asked about my study on the schemes of satan.  The only way I know to put forth my studies is in what we call a guided bible study and since it is a long study, I will put a chapter on at a time.  I do encourage discussion.  I will also warn you that it is not an edited work so you might find a few mistakes.

This study is designed to give us a kind of how to look at combating the schemes of satan...I hope you all enjoy the study, learn from it as I did, and discuss any part you like.

Share on Facebook Share on Twitter

Like Like x 1 Winner Winner x 3 View List

Lori Bolinger

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 628
  • Karma: +1010/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: The schemes of Satan
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2018, 10:00:42 am »

II Corinthians 2:11 (HCSB)
I have done this so that we may not be taken advantage of by Satan. For we are not ignorant of his schemes.

   As I was studying how Love protects us I happened upon this verse.  Notice the end of the verse where it says, ďFor we are not ignorant of his schemes.Ē  This got me wondering what it is that we know about the schemes of Satan.  As I thought on the question of what the schemes of Satan were I had to confess I wasnít sure how to answer the question from the standpoint of scripture.  Scheme is defined as...a large-scale systematic plan or arrangement for attaining some particular object or putting a particular idea into effect.  Satanís plan is that of death.  John 8:44 tells us that he is a murderer.  Since the wages of sin is death. (Romans 6:23)  Satanís interest is in causing us to sin.  Thus his scheme is to draw us away from God and the life He offers to all men.  So now we know the goal of Satan the question is how does he try to achieve this goal?  He does so through schemes that we are supposed to according to II Corinthians 2:11 know.  So letís dive in and see what schemes we can uncover from scripture.
   First we go to I Chronicles 21 which is a story about David, King of Israel calling for a census of the people which was against Godís will.  In fact in verse one we see that Satan incited David to take a census.  To incite someone to do something is to encourage them to follow through on the already bad ideas they have.  Like dangling a carrot in front of them.  For David that carrot was the notion that David could know the number of fighting age men in Israel rather than simply trusting God.  David had an idea in his mind, the idea that he wanted to know how many men were in Israel.  Satan came along and encouraged that idea into action.  Time and time again in our lives we have an idea and we might even know that that idea is a bad thing, a sin but one way or another we are encouraged to follow through with the idea and often we give into that enticing just as David did.  Whether through justifications, others suggesting, like David simply having the authority to do so, or something else we find a way to believe we are justified to sin and no one will care. (I Chronicles 21:1).  One important element of this enticing that we should talk about is that God does allow it to happen.  We see that Satan has permission given by God to do certain things like the afflictions he brought to Job.  In II Samuel 24 we see the same thing it is through Godís permission that he is able to use our ideas against us and entice us to sin.
   In I Chronicles we see that Joab was not happy with Davidís decision to sin (I Chronicles 21:6-7) now was God.  In fact, God was angry with David.  So as we move through the story we see that Joab doesnít carry out the entire order in rebellion and God allows His anger to be known.  But with a scheme of Satan we also must have a protection and the protection for David would have been to stand firm against the enemy (Colossians 1:23, Ephesians 6:11, I Corinthians 16:13, Hebrews 3:14, Joshua 23:6, Philippians 1:27, Ephesians 6:13, Psalms 119:1) and in doing so refuse the ideas that were coming into his head.  David failed to take his thoughts captive and turn those thoughts to the things of God. (I Corinthians 10:5, Isaiah 26:3, Romans 12:2, John 8:31-32, Isaiah 26:3; Proverbs 1:23)  Finally David forgot to trust God, to simply trust the God that he knew to be trustworthy and faithful.  (Philippians 4:7, Ephesians 3:19, Philippians 4:9, I Corinthians 10:13) If David had followed these three guidelines he might not have sinned by ordering for a census however, he did sin and so he needed to reconcile with God.  As we go through the passage we see that David confessed that he was responsible for sinning.  (I Chronicles 21:8)  Confession is truly an important part of our reconciliation with God and with others.  (James 5:16, Leviticus 5:5, Leviticus 16:21, Leviticus 26:40, I Samuel 7:6, Ezra 10:1, Nehemiah 1:6, Psalms 32:5, Psalms 38:18, Daniel 9:4, Daniel 9:20, Acts 19:18, I John 1:9)  From the Old Testament law to the new testament Christ we are instructed to confess our sins.  Confession of our sins is necessary because without confession it is as if we are trying to hide our sins. (Joshua 7:19, Proverbs 28:13) I found Romans 10:10 especially interesting on the topic of confession for it equates belief with righteousness but confession is equated with our salvation.  Without doubt we need to confess our sins.  Confession is an act of both exposing who we are, accepting who we are and what we have done and seeking reconciliation for it.  It is part of our baptism. (Matthew 3:6, Mark 1:5) Nahum 5:7 tells us that when we confess our sins we are to pay full compensation for the wrong we have done and then some.  This idea of paying back is carried through to Ezra 10:11 where we are told to separate ourselves from our sin.  This separation seems to be something that David forgot as we move through I Chronicles 21.  David was in verse 8 confessing and in verse 13 he finally became in anguish over the sin he committed.  Nehemiah 9:1-3 talks about confessing with sackcloth.  Sackcloth was how the people of the day showed a brokenness.  David needed to confess with a brokenness over what he had done.
   Now, God was still angry with David for the sin that he had committed by disobedience in ordering the census and David apparently hadnít done enough by confessing in brokenness.  God gave David three choices 1. 3 years of famine for Israel as punishment for the sin.  2. 3 months of Israelís enemies fighting and winning battles or 3. 3 days of Godís wrath through the plagues that he would send.  God still needed David to learn something and so like a good Father God punished David.  (Job 5:17, Job 36:10, Proverbs 1:25-26, Proverbs 1:29-30, Proverbs 5:12, Proverbs 6:23, Proverbs 10:17, Proverbs 12:1, Proverbs 15:5, Proverbs 15:10, Proverbs 15:12, Proverbs 15:32, Proverbs 19:27, Proverbs 25:12, Proverbs 29:15, II Timothy 3:16, II Timothy 4:2)  This correction by God was one of the ways that God showed David that he was greatly Loved by God. (Proverbs 3:12, Hebrews 12:6, Deuteronomy 8:5, Psalms 94:12, Proverbs 3:11-12, Revelations 3:19) 
It is interesting that David chose Godís correction, Godís hand of over falling to his enemies.  Notice the reason why David chose Godís plagues because David knew that God was a merciful God. (I Chronicles 21:13) Even the very seat that He had the Children of Israel build for Him is called the mercy seat. (Exodus, Hebrews 9:5)  God is a merciful God and David would rather take his chances with Godís mercy than with the environment or his enemies and their lack of mercy. (Deuteronomy 13:17, Matthew 5:7, Matthew 9:13, Matthew 12:7, Matthew 18:37, Matthew 23:23, Mark 5:19, Luke 1:54, Roman 9:16, Romans 11:31-32, Romans 15:9, II Corinthians 4:1, Ephesians 2:4, Hebrews 4:16, James 2:13, James 3:17, I Peter 1:3, II John 1:3, Jude 1:21)  Even with this mercy 70,000 people were killed by the plagues that God sent before David was ready to move to the final step of his lessons.
I Chronicles 21:17 shows us a David who finally takes responsibility for his actions.  Notice that David needed to first take responsibility for himself and his sin, he needed to be broken by that sin but he also had to own it in obedience (II Samuel 24:19) and fear of the Lord.  (I Chronicles 21:30) To repent means to turn from your sin and turn to obedience.  In other words true repentance is marked by obedience to God. (Acts 2:38, Job 36:10, Psalms 7:12, Psalms 78:34, Isaiah 1:27, Jeremiah 15:19, Jeremiah 34:15, Ezekiel 14:6, Ezekiel 18:30, Ezekiel 33:14, Hosea 6:1, Hosea 14:2, Joel 2:12, Matthew 3:2, Matthew 3:8, Matthew 4:17, Matthew 11:20, Mark 1:4, Mark 1:15, Mark 6:12, Luke 3:3, Luke 3:8, Luke 5:32, Luke 13:3-10, Acts 3:19, Acts 8:22, Acts 17:30, Acts 26:20, Romans 2:4, II Corinthians 7:9-10, II Peter 3:9, Revelations 2:5, Revelations 2:16, Revelations 3:3, Revelations 3:19)  Love is the power to overcome the schemes of Satan but when we do fall to his schemes we can return to the God of mercy with confession, brokenness, and repentance that bears the fruit of righteousness.  Let us always stand firm, take our thoughts captive and trust God so that we do not fall to the enticing Satan tries to do in our thoughts.
Like Like x 2 View List

Theo102

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 60
  • Karma: +410/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: The schemes of Satan
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2018, 02:14:45 pm »
The Pauline description of Satan is at odds with the description from the Tanach, just as his description of spiritual armour differs from the description that he plagiarised.

2Sam 24:1, 1 Ch 21:1, Satan means adversary, see Gesenius:

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H7854&t=KJV

patrick jane

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9659
  • Karma: +1010/-0
  • Research Jesus Christ - Research Flat Earth
  • Location: Homeless in God's Flat Earth
  • Referrals: 41
    • Theology Forums
Re: The schemes of Satan
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2018, 02:17:16 pm »
The Pauline description of Satan is at odds with the description from the Tanach, just as his description of spiritual armour differs from the description that he plagiarised.

2Sam 24:1, 1 Ch 21:1, Satan means adversary, see Gesenius:

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H7854&t=KJV
Paul plagiarized nothing and any assertion otherwise is heresy and needs to be proven through scripture.



Patreon : https://www.patreon.com/patrick_jane3169
PayPal Donations : https://paypal.me/ThankYou3169
Flat Earth Forums : https://3169.createaforum.com/index.php?action=forum
Theology Forums :  https://theologyforums.com/index.php
Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzjN3dF-_PnAc81SQVjqhg?view_as=subscriber
Pinterest : https://www.pinterest.com/patrickjane3169/
Google : https://plus.google.com/u/0/113527239869543729835
Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-jane-833769164/
Twitter : https://twitter.com/patrickjane3169
Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007669219364+
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


Copyright Disclaimer: All audio and music belongs to the owner/creator. This is a non-profit. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.
Like Like x 1 Agree Agree x 1 View List

Theo102

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 60
  • Karma: +410/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: The schemes of Satan
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2018, 02:21:14 pm »
Paul plagiarized nothing and any assertion otherwise is heresy and needs to be proven through scripture.

http://torah.clonehost.net/paul.html#s9

Lori Bolinger

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 628
  • Karma: +1010/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: The schemes of Satan
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2018, 02:37:53 pm »
I'm confused by the accusation...If God spoke through both, why wouldn't we see the same or similar message?  Why would that suggest plagiarism?

Theo102

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 60
  • Karma: +410/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: The schemes of Satan
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2018, 02:46:21 pm »
I'm confused by the accusation...If God spoke through both, why wouldn't we see the same or similar message?  Why would that suggest plagiarism?
Sometimes a lying spirit has a role to play, eg 1 Kings 22:22. Plagiarism is when someone else's ideas are used without attribution, eg when the ideas of righteousness as a breastplate and the helmet of salvation from Isaiah 59:17 were used by Paul in Ephesians 6:14,17
Like Like x 1 View List

Lori Bolinger

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 628
  • Karma: +1010/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: The schemes of Satan
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2018, 02:49:15 pm »
I know what plagiarism is, what you haven't answered is why you think that Paul writing what God inspired him to is plagiarism....isn't that like calling God a plagiarist?

patrick jane

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9659
  • Karma: +1010/-0
  • Research Jesus Christ - Research Flat Earth
  • Location: Homeless in God's Flat Earth
  • Referrals: 41
    • Theology Forums
Re: The schemes of Satan
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2018, 06:40:01 pm »
I'm confused by the accusation...If God spoke through both, why wouldn't we see the same or similar message?  Why would that suggest plagiarism?
Sometimes a lying spirit has a role to play, eg 1 Kings 22:22. Plagiarism is when someone else's ideas are used without attribution, eg when the ideas of righteousness as a breastplate and the helmet of salvation from Isaiah 59:17 were used by Paul in Ephesians 6:14,17
So, you're a plagiarist.



Patreon : https://www.patreon.com/patrick_jane3169
PayPal Donations : https://paypal.me/ThankYou3169
Flat Earth Forums : https://3169.createaforum.com/index.php?action=forum
Theology Forums :  https://theologyforums.com/index.php
Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzjN3dF-_PnAc81SQVjqhg?view_as=subscriber
Pinterest : https://www.pinterest.com/patrickjane3169/
Google : https://plus.google.com/u/0/113527239869543729835
Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-jane-833769164/
Twitter : https://twitter.com/patrickjane3169
Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007669219364+
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


Copyright Disclaimer: All audio and music belongs to the owner/creator. This is a non-profit. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.

Lori Bolinger

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 628
  • Karma: +1010/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: The schemes of Satan
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2018, 09:12:33 am »
Scheme 2

The TakerÖ
Job 1:9-11 (HCSB)
Satan answered the Lord, ďDoes Job fear God for nothing? 10 Havenít You placed a hedge around him, his household, and everything he owns? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. 11 But stretch out Your hand and strike everything he owns, and he will surely curse You to Your face.Ē

   Job was a man of God.  Scripture says that He was a man of integrity who feared God.  Even God recognized that Job was living a life that pleased him. (Job 1:8)  We as a people are called to live a life of integrity.  Those that live a life of integrity live securely. (Psalms 7:8; Psalms 25:21; Psalms 26:1; Psalms 41:12; Psalms 51:6; Psalms 84:11; Psalms 145:18; Proverbs 2:7; Proverbs 2:9; Proverbs 2:21; Proverbs 10:9; Proverbs 11:3; Proverbs 13:6; Proverbs 14:2; Proverbs 19:1; Proverbs 20:7; Proverbs 28:6; Proverbs 28:18; Amos 5:10; Habakkuk 2:4; Titus 2:7)  We are also called to live in the fear of the Lord a fear that brings about righteousness.  (Proverbs 1:7; Job 28:28; Psalms 19:9; Psalms 34:11; Psalms 111:10; Proverbs 2:1-5; Proverbs 9:10; Proverbs 10:27; Proverbs 14:26-27; Proverbs 15:16; Proverbs 15:33; Proverbs 16:6; Proverbs 19:23; Proverbs 22:4; Isaiah 11:3; Isaiah 33:6; Acts 9:31; II Corinthians 5:11) As the treasure of Zion and the result of humility, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.  By all accounts Job was a man that God was pleased with him and in today's world we are often led to believe that this is enough to bring about a life without struggles and afflictions.  The modern church often teaches us that if we come to God and Love Him everything will be good for the rest of our days on earth.  Here we sit looking at a man who was without fault before God and Satan still attacked him in ways that few of us can even fathom.
   Job 1:7 tells us why Satan is able to inflict such grief on mankind, it is because he is roaming this earth looking for whomever he can draw away into death.  This earth is his temporary home. (I Peter 5:8; Mark 9:15; John 12:31; John 16:11; II Corinthians 4:4; Ephesians 2:1-3; John 12:31; Ephesians 5:6)  His desire is to draw men from life into death, he is a murderer and liar (John 8:44) from the very beginning.  Satan is NOT above attacking a righteous man like Job.  Satan wants to draw even the righteous into death.  (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22) 
   First letís be clear, nothing that happened to Job was without Godís permission.  For whatever reason God had in His wisdom He saw fit to give Satan permission to attack Job.  This can be a very hard thing for most of us to accept and understand and yet it is the very lesson Job himself had to learn.  God is God and His ways are perfect and just.  (Job 1:12; Job 2:6; Job 38) Just because we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and live for Him as best we can on a daily basis does NOT mean that our lives suddenly become charmed and without struggles and adversities.
   The first challenge Satan put before Job was to strip him of his wealth.  Job was a very wealthy man.  It is so easy to get our eyes on the wealth of this world.  We see what others have, suffer through lean times and in that justify God giving us wealth.  We listen to teachers who promise wealth in the name of God if only we will do this or that for God wants us to thrive, He wants only what is good for us.  But notice Isaiah 33:6 tells us that the fear of the Lord is the very treasure of Zion.  Zion, our heavenly home.  Earthly wealth is not what God wants us to seek nor protect but rather earthly wealth is often times a hinderance to the man of integrity who is living in the fear of the Lord.  It is something that is not to be held so tightly that it can draw us away from God.  Rather we are to lay up our treasures in heaven.  (Acts 4:32-37; Matthew 19:21-22; Matthew 6:19-20; Luke 12:33; Luke 18:22; Acts 2:45; James 1:17; Psalms 85:12; Philippians 4:6-7; Matthew 6:25; Philippians 4:19; Luke 12:30; Matthew 6:32; Matthew 6:8; Psalms 23:1; II Corinthians 9:8; Proverbs 3:9) Instead of being concerned about our wealth we need to learn to trust God to provide all that we need and in that discover how to be satisfied.  Jobís response was to grieve in worship without sin or blaming God.  He was trusting God to provide no matter what happened to his wealth.  (Job 1:20)
   The second challenge Satan issued to Job and his faithfulness to God was that of his children.  Satan is not above using our children against us to try to draw us away from God.  As sad as it is and as terrible as it might sound and be, Satan will use those people closest to us to try to destroy us and lead us to death. (Job 1:12)  Our children are a gift from God, a heritage given to us by God and thus they are not our own but Godís.  (Psalms 127:3-5; Genesis 33:5) Our children are our example of how to come to God and simply trust Him. (Matthew 21:15-16; Psalms 8:2; Matthew 18:2-6; I Peter 2:2-3; Mark 10:13-16)  Losing a child one of if not the hardest thing that we might ever be asked to endure.  We expect our children to outlive us.  We spend time teaching and loving them according to scripture and then one day they are no more of this world.  The surreal feelings swirl around us and threaten to consume us and in that anguish it is easy to blame God.  It becomes easy to turn our backs on the one who gave our children to us.  But, Job a man of integrity and fear of the Lord worshiped God and did not blame Him.  In fact, look at Job 1:21, right after Job heard about his children being dead he said, (HCSB) ďNaked I came from my motherís womb, and naked I will leave this life. The Lord gives, and the Lord takes away.  Praise the name of Yahweh.Ē  He understood that God gave his children to him and it was God that could take them away.  In the middle of such horrible grief, Job recognized the living God who gave Him good gifts and treasures to embrace but he loved God more.
   Finally Satan took Jobís health and gave him boils. (Job 2:7) In this too Job did not sin.  He understood that healing is in fear of the Lord and trust in God.  Some illness is caused by sin but some is not.  (John 9:2-3) God wants to use our physical ailments to show others His glory. (John 11:4) Our healing is in learning to fear the Lord and in that trusting in Him alone through faith, not in demanding but in simple faith trusting that this too is in His capable hands and to His glory.  (Proverbs 3:1-12; Psalms 38:2-4; Psalms 38:6-8; Proverbs 4:20:27; Proverbs 16:24; Isaiah 38:16; Jeremiah 30:17; Jeremiah 33:6; Acts 3:16; James 5:15; III John 1:2)  Job understood that man doesnít live just by the food he eats and the air he breaths but by the very word of God man receives sustainance. (Deuteronomy 8:3; Matthew 4:4; Luke 4:4; I Corinthians 10:3; Matthew 16:11-18; Mark 7:19-20)   Jobís response to the loss of his health came when his wife challenged him to curse God and die.  Job 2:10 (HCSB) 10 ďYou speak as a foolish woman speaks,Ē he told her. ďShould we accept only good from God and not adversity?Ē Throughout all this Job did not sin in what he said.  He knew God to be just in all that He does.  (II Thessalonians 1:6; Colossians 3:25; Hebrews 6:10; Job 36:6; Luke 18:7; I John 1:9)
   For all the things that Job understood about God and the wealth, children, and health that God had granted to him, he still failed to really understand and grasp the magnitude, beauty, wonder, authority, and wisdom of God. (Job 38)  So, when Satan takes challenges our wealth, our children, our health how should we react?  As Job did, Job didnít blame Satan or God, he didnít throw a fit and cry about injustice.  Rather Job did three important things, 1. He worshiped God in the midst of the struggles.  2. He remained a man of integrity, humility, faithfulness, and a man who feared the Lord and 3. He allowed himself to be taught by God that which he didnít yet know and understand.  He trusted God, defended God, and Loved God without fail as his world crumbled down around him.  Satanís schemes to use your wealth, your children and/or your health is no excuse to walk away from God, to blame God or to neglect worship of the living God rather it is an opportunity to learn about the sovereignty of the Living God.
Like Like x 2 Winner Winner x 1 View List

Theo102

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 60
  • Karma: +410/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: The schemes of Satan
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2018, 03:37:15 pm »
So, you're a plagiarist.
No, I'm documenting it.
Winner Winner x 1 View List

MichaelC

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Jr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 185
  • Karma: +1010/-0
  • Wait Upon The Lord, for it won't be long!! Selah!
  • Location: Phoenix, AZ
  • Referrals: 0
    • Jesus Returning Very Soon!
Re: The schemes of Satan
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2018, 10:34:51 pm »
Dear Lori B,

A very long post!  I read it all because I am very used to them.  I think that your post was insightful and extraordinary in explaining why God causes people to endure affliction from Satan.  You did quite a lot of painstaking work on your post and I was pleased with it.  It is No Picnic, but needs to be done, to refine us like silver and make us ready to reside in Heaven.

It was additionally an informative and intuitive dive into what we, as God's Children, have to face/undergo at times.  Thanks for taking the hard work to put it together!!

MichaelC

« Last Edit: October 18, 2018, 08:52:03 pm by MichaelC »
I believe in the Lord God and how He wanted us to live.  I worship Him and love Him exceedingly much.  I also believe in Jesus Christ and His commandments, and in the example He gave us on how to live our lives.  With them both, and I love and adore Him as my Savior, Master and best Brother & King.  My love is strong and encompassing.

:angel:    :angel:    :angel:
Like Like x 3 Love Love x 1 View List

patrick jane

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Administrator
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9659
  • Karma: +1010/-0
  • Research Jesus Christ - Research Flat Earth
  • Location: Homeless in God's Flat Earth
  • Referrals: 41
    • Theology Forums
Re: The schemes of Satan
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2018, 02:40:22 am »
I'm confused by the accusation...If God spoke through both, why wouldn't we see the same or similar message?  Why would that suggest plagiarism?
Sometimes a lying spirit has a role to play, eg 1 Kings 22:22. Plagiarism is when someone else's ideas are used without attribution, eg when the ideas of righteousness as a breastplate and the helmet of salvation from Isaiah 59:17 were used by Paul in Ephesians 6:14,17
Paul was Saul, a devout Jew. The scriptures were well known by many at the time, they knew the scriptures that Paul was referring to and therefore not plagiarism per se.




Patreon : https://www.patreon.com/patrick_jane3169
PayPal Donations : https://paypal.me/ThankYou3169
Flat Earth Forums : https://3169.createaforum.com/index.php?action=forum
Theology Forums :  https://theologyforums.com/index.php
Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzjN3dF-_PnAc81SQVjqhg?view_as=subscriber
Pinterest : https://www.pinterest.com/patrickjane3169/
Google : https://plus.google.com/u/0/113527239869543729835
Linkedin : https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-jane-833769164/
Twitter : https://twitter.com/patrickjane3169
Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007669219364+

Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


Copyright Disclaimer: All audio and music belongs to the owner/creator. This is a non-profit. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.
Agree Agree x 1 View List

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
42 Replies
4455 Views
Last post August 30, 2020, 10:47:34 pm
by Bladerunner
22 Replies
3400 Views
Last post September 17, 2020, 06:56:45 pm
by patrick jane
18 Replies
429 Views
Last post September 03, 2020, 07:40:37 am
by Lori Bolinger
1 Replies
260 Views
Last post September 03, 2020, 10:06:41 am
by patrick jane

+-Recent Topics

Faith by Chaplain Mark Schmidt
Today at 12:06:33 pm

A VERY SMALL REMNANT by doug
Today at 10:26:40 am

Ministry On Video by Lion Of Judah by patrick jane
Today at 09:31:51 am

Hidden Teachings Of The Bible by patrick jane
Today at 03:04:45 am

Trump 2020 - Winning !!! by patrick jane
September 28, 2020, 11:28:49 pm

Politics Today by patrick jane
September 28, 2020, 11:28:37 pm

Re: Trump 2020 - Winning !!! by patrick jane
September 28, 2020, 11:28:14 pm

Re: Politics Today by patrick jane
September 28, 2020, 11:28:02 pm

Project Veritas and More - EXPOSED by patrick jane
September 28, 2020, 10:11:04 pm

Democrats Try To "FIX" The 2020 Election - Fake Ballots by patrick jane
September 28, 2020, 10:10:19 pm

What will you say after you are dead? by patrick jane
September 28, 2020, 09:34:34 pm

The kingdom of heaven by patrick jane
September 28, 2020, 09:34:07 pm

ANGELS & DEMONS by patrick jane
September 28, 2020, 09:32:10 pm

CORONAVIRUS - THE PALE HORSE by patrick jane
September 28, 2020, 09:28:58 pm

Coronavirus hoax to declare martial law (FEMA) by patrick jane
September 28, 2020, 09:28:34 pm

The schemes of Satan by patrick jane
September 28, 2020, 09:22:08 pm

Has it Begun? Deep State Indictments by Bladerunner
September 28, 2020, 08:26:46 pm

CERN - Gateway of the gods and Demons by Bladerunner
September 28, 2020, 08:25:58 pm