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Author Topic: The dangers of woman keeping silent...  (Read 3139 times)

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Re: The dangers of woman keeping silent...
« Reply #78 on: April 15, 2019, 10:37:58 am »
Here are my notes from a bigger study on the role of woman.....it probably leaves out some important things since I am trying to pick through it to only address the Timothy passage.  The whole study looks at submission too and what it means not only that but what Love looks like in all relationships and it has a very heavy lean on the marriage relationship/the Church's relationship as the bride of Christ.

I don't believe we can talk about women submitting to their husbands, without also touching on I Timothy 2:12 and I Corinthians 14:34.  Notice that in Titus, woman are to teach what is good, and then in Timothy and Corinthians, they are told not to teach.  This then either becomes a contradiction in Paul's teaching, or it is necessary to take a bit deeper look into Timothy and Corinthians.  The words here for teach and keeping silent, mirror the teaching in Titus.  In Timothy, the woman is told to not teach by usurping authority over the man.  This usurping is one who with his own hand kills another or self, acts on his own authority, is the absolute master. (Thayer's Lexicon)  If we read the text this way, then the teaching is in fact consistent with Titus, a woman can teach, but only with the authority given her by God, not an authority she forces upon others. (Mark 1:27; II Corinthians 2:17; I Thessalonians 2:4; Titus 2:15; I Peter 4:11) Now keep in mind, that woman were just given the power to be heirs, that is equals with men, this is a new power a new authority they do not know how to deal with, a teaching such as this would be very beneficial to woman and is also consistent with Galatians 3:18 (NIV) There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Likewise, in both passages, the command to keep silent is a word used to refer to a quietness of spirit, that is to keep the peace, don't stir trouble, meekness.  Now go back to I Peter 3:4 (NIV)  Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight.  Soon, we will look into the woman of noble character in Proverbs 31 and discover this theme, of a woman having authority, being strong and business like, working as equals along with men, but using that authority only with a quiet and gentle spirit is part of both Old Testament and New Testament teaching.

As I review this, it doesn't talk about the men and the likewise in the men which is also consistent with what I understand it is saying based on this study....have a look at how men with authority are to behave and compare that to what I see here about woman....I Timothy 2 8 I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.

9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

They are to do so with  lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting...IN THE SAME WAY WOMEN...how can woman do it the same way if they are NOT to do it at all?

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