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Lori Bolinger

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suffering and God Love...
« on: August 10, 2021, 10:33:37 am »
I'm not sure where to post this...

I'm not 100% yet, well never 100% anymore but back to where I was...so any response I give with be gingerly given but here is the question I pose today.



How is suffering a picture for us of God Love.



Before you answer, we know some obvious about God's Love to us, but what about those things that are not as obvious like His ability to relate to us.

As to the rest of the question, how is our suffering a picture of God Love?

How is our suffering helping others understand God Love?

How is others suffering helping us understand God Love?

How does persecution (to add a more specific suffering to our list) showing God Love?

How can we allow our suffering to demonstrate God Love to the world? 

(NO JUDGEMENT STATEMENTS WILL BE TOLERATED BY ME)

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Re: suffering and God Love...
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2021, 11:25:56 am »


(NO JUDGEMENT STATEMENTS WILL BE TOLERATED BY ME)[/size]...but, but, knowing GOD judges evil is a great comfort to me and knowing that HE will swat our butts for our foolishness also comforts me...
Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil


Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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Re: suffering and God Love...
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2021, 11:33:48 am »


(NO JUDGEMENT STATEMENTS WILL BE TOLERATED BY ME)[/size]...but, but, knowing GOD judges evil is a great comfort to me and knowing that HE will swat our butts for our foolishness also comforts me...
that is God's judgment, not ours...there is a difference, but I do appreciate the comment, amen, suffering is to be viewed according to scripture as God's correction.

In fact, maybe we can expand on this some...it is both correction and comfort but it also shows whose we are.  But not only whose we are but who He is.

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Re: suffering and God Love...
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2021, 11:36:17 am »
I think some people can mistake "suffering" and "persecution" for reality, meaning some things are part of life. For instance, I never feel "picked on" or persecuted, I never feel like the underdog and I never claim to be a victim.


I have pain, depression, other health issues and they affect every part of my life. I don't sit and dwell on my sufferings and pain, my afflictions and how they might be "helping" God or that they are His will for my life.

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2021, 12:54:02 pm »
I think some people can mistake "suffering" and "persecution" for reality, meaning some things are part of life. For instance, I never feel "picked on" or persecuted, I never feel like the underdog and I never claim to be a victim.


I have pain, depression, other health issues and they affect every part of my life. I don't sit and dwell on my sufferings and pain, my afflictions and how they might be "helping" God or that they are His will for my life.
When it became obvious that I was going to be in long term non stop pain, maybe even for the rest of my life, I (should be obvious) obviously prayed for God to heal me.  Soon it also became obvious that God had another plan.  At that point, I told God that I would endure as long as I could see He was using it.  Some days it's hard to see how or where He is using it, but most days I see His glory shining through it and that encourages me.

That small bit of testimony reveals two ways that suffering can glorify God or show God's Love...endurance and encouragement as we allow Him to have it and work through it what He desires for it to accomplish Romans 8:28

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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2021, 12:56:51 pm »
I think some people can mistake "suffering" and "persecution" for reality, meaning some things are part of life. For instance, I never feel "picked on" or persecuted, I never feel like the underdog and I never claim to be a victim.


I have pain, depression, other health issues and they affect every part of my life. I don't sit and dwell on my sufferings and pain, my afflictions and how they might be "helping" God or that they are His will for my life.
I forgot to say this when responding...I agree and think it is insightful what you said about people not being able to distinguish between suffering and persecution sometimes...here, we have experience not only with persecution but people and people groups close to our hearts that are truly persecuted and so I wouldn't have thought about people seeing them as the same thing...thanks for the insight.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2021, 09:18:41 pm »
I think some people can mistake "suffering" and "persecution" for reality, meaning some things are part of life. For instance, I never feel "picked on" or persecuted, I never feel like the underdog and I never claim to be a victim.


I have pain, depression, other health issues and they affect every part of my life. I don't sit and dwell on my sufferings and pain, my afflictions and how they might be "helping" God or that they are His will for my life.

I would offer I think both kinds working as one. Literal fleshly and our minds .The idea as a gift of never being picked on or persecuted seems to be one working according to your seeking, a blessing of God .The physical sufferings can sometimes and does require more aid  ..we can pray in a hope of less sufferings encouraging each other but in the end it is between the work of the Father and Son that the will of God is revealed.

Its the kind of religion God sets his approval on the elders as widows  and the orphans as fatherless. In that way we were all widows and not members as the bride of Christ and were all orphans without a heavenly father. I would offer prayer in regard to your burden in a hope our Father would give strength .

James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.




 

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