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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2021, 12:51:22 pm »
The Parable of the Builders…
   As I was preparing to study the parable of the builders, I read the first sentence, Matthew 7:24 “Therefore, everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them will be like a sensible man who built his house on the rock.  I suddenly realized that we had to know more in order to fully understand this parable.  We had to know and at least to some degree understand the teachings that precede this parable.  Since the study is centered on the parables, the preceding teachings will be simple and not as deep.  To that end, the first teaching we  have not yet touched on is Matthew 6, the giving to the poor. 

6 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness[a] in front of people, to be seen by them. Otherwise, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2 So whenever you give to the poor, don’t sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be applauded by people. I assure you: They’ve got their reward! 3 But when you give to the poor, don’t let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.  What we want to focus on here is giving to the poor.

 The account of course says not to give to be seen by others but as we study more on giving we learn a bit more.  We also want to see a consistency in scripture which tells us that we are understanding it correctly.  So let’s roll up our sleeves and dig into giving.
 We are to give to the poor without making a show of it.  (Matthew 23:5)  If we make a show of it, we have already received our reward rather than to wait for God’s reward. (Luke 6:24; Luke 16:25; Luke 6:24) We are to give out of a willing heart that gives without reservation. (Matthew  10:8 )  Many people give out of compulsion, Christ teaches that we are to give out of our own hearts conviction not because of anything anyone says or does to try to convince us to give. (II Corinthians 9:7; Exodus 25:2; Deuteronomy 15:10; I Chronicles 29:9; Romans 8:12)
Our giving should be done with lavishness. It’s a giving that is generous. (Matthew 5:42; Luke 6:30)   God lavishes us with Love.  As such we too are to lavish the poor with Love.  In lavishing our Love giving, we will be measured by that same measure. (Luke 6:38)  We do not have to worry about giving it all because God generously gives to us. (Luke 11:3)  Getting away from our bondage to our possessions in exchange for giving as Christ instructs us is building treasures in heaven. (Matthew 19:21; Mark 10:21) One day someone challenged me by claiming that Christian’s don’t give as they are commanded in scripture.  I told him there were some who did and asked him what he wanted from me. He told me and I assured him I didn’t have it to give but if I did it would be his. Our giving needs to be from what God has given us, consider the woman who gave her two mites. (II Corinthians 8:12; Luke 21:1-4; Mark 12:43)
Acts 2:41-47 shows us this principle carried out in an entire body where the early believers were devoting themselves to the apostles teaching, to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer, so much so that they sold all their possessions and held everything in common so that they could care for the poor.  As we move through Acts into chapter 5:1-11 we see that God is more concerned about the truth of our hearts than the amount of our giving. 
When we give to the poor it is like giving to Christ Himself. (Matthew 10:42; Mark 9:41; Matthew 25:31-46)  We can give generously, with a willing heart, we can give for all the right reasons and in all the right ways, but the bottom line is that we need to give out of Love; Love for God and Love for the one whom we are giving to.  (I Corinthians 13:3)  A Love that is the heart of the entire law and teaching of Christ.
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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #53 on: June 08, 2021, 09:38:45 am »
Are you sitting down?  I can only offer an alternative perspective.

A great many people use this teaching as an excuse to not give at all.  'I'm sorry... I cannot give (to this, or that) because I don't want anyone to know, or anyone to find out, or anyone to see me giving, because then I would lose my reward in heaven.  So then do they go give anonymously?  Sometimes.  Some do...  Most do not.  The simply excuse themselves and say things like "I give in secret" or "I give elsewhere."

In the parable it does NOT say, don't give (don't practice righteousness) -- don't do good works in front of others.  -It says don't let 'being seen by others' be the reason for your giving or good works.  Who cares if someone sees or takes notice.  You can only do so much in secret.  Elsewhere scripture teaches us to let our light shine so that our good works will be seen by others.  But again, don't let that attention be what motivates or captivates you, because you will become captive to it and in that way you will lose (trade) your reward in heaven for earthly accolades.  Bad trade.

The teaching is to give 'open-handedly' or without thinking...  Not letting your left hand know what your right hand is doing is actually a very old principle in which the right hand is considered the hand you extend to another (the hand that gives) and the left hand is the hand you keep to yourself (the hand that receives)  --in this the principle is to not consider what you give to be a determining factor in what you have received.  It's kind of the opposite of tithing-- which was the prevalent way of calculating what one was 'required' to give by both lawmakers and tax collectors alike in the temple system.
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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2021, 10:51:13 am »
Are you sitting down?  I can only offer an alternative perspective.

A great many people use this teaching as an excuse to not give at all.  'I'm sorry... I cannot give (to this, or that) because I don't want anyone to know, or anyone to find out, or anyone to see me giving, because then I would lose my reward in heaven.  So then do they go give anonymously?  Sometimes.  Some do...  Most do not.  The simply excuse themselves and say things like "I give in secret" or "I give elsewhere."

In the parable it does NOT say, don't give (don't practice righteousness) -- don't do good works in front of others.  -It says don't let 'being seen by others' be the reason for your giving or good works.  Who cares if someone sees or takes notice.  You can only do so much in secret.  Elsewhere scripture teaches us to let our light shine so that our good works will be seen by others.  But again, don't let that attention be what motivates or captivates you, because you will become captive to it and in that way you will lose (trade) your reward in heaven for earthly accolades.  Bad trade.

The teaching is to give 'open-handedly' or without thinking...  Not letting your left hand know what your right hand is doing is actually a very old principle in which the right hand is considered the hand you extend to another (the hand that gives) and the left hand is the hand you keep to yourself (the hand that receives)  --in this the principle is to not consider what you give to be a determining factor in what you have received.  It's kind of the opposite of tithing-- which was the prevalent way of calculating what one was 'required' to give by both lawmakers and tax collectors alike in the temple system.
Tons of verses in what I posted talked about giving, are you just repeating what I said for emphasis or are you not reading what I post?

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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2021, 12:24:14 pm »
Matthew 6:5 “Whenever you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites, because they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by people. I assure you: They’ve got their reward! 6 But when you pray, go into your private room, shut your door, and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.[c] 7 When you pray, don’t babble like the idolaters,[d] since they imagine they’ll be heard for their many words. 8 Don’t be like them, because your Father knows the things you need before you ask Him.

The teaching here about prayer is really at it;s heart,a teaching about being humble. There is a parable coming up that will go into more detail but let’s flush out some basics.  The hypocrites stand on the street corner playing long prayers for the purpose of being seen. They are prideful and arrogant and self seeking. Communal prayers are not being prohibited here.  James 5:14-16 even calls for communal prayers to be offered up.  (Matthew 18:20; Acts 12:12)  Throughout scripture we see communal prayers being offered up and some are quite long or so it feels when reading them but they are also full of humility.  Even the Lord’s prayer (Matthew 6:9-15) uses communal words. In other words, they are not being offered up for show or arrogance. In fact, length of prayer is a relative thing.  My husband was offering a heartfelt prayer one day while leading worship. Our then very young son was tired of waiting and stood on the pew and yelled at the top of his lungs, “amen”.  For him, his dad’s prayer was long and boring.
So if the key here is not the length of prayer but humility why are we to offer humble prayers.  Since God alone sees the heart and will judge on our words and actions, as our witness, we need to go before His throne in humility of heart and words. (James 4:10; I Samuel 2:3; Psalms 31:23; Psalms 101:5) If we do not humble ourselves, (Colossians 3:12; James 4:10) God will humble us. (Deuteronomy 8:2-3; Isaiah 5:15; Isaiah 10:33; II Corinthians 12:21)  In addition to being our witness, it is the prayer offered from a humble heart that God hears. (II Chronicles 7:14; Psalms 10:17)  Humility is also said to turn aways God’s wrath. (II Chronicles 12:12; II Chronicles 32:26) God absolutely cares whether or not we come to Him in humility.  It is in humility that God can work in us and through us and in that we will be exalted. (Matthew 23:12)  In fact, God is against the proud.  He is in opposition to the proud. (James 4:6; I Peter 5:5-6)  It is the arrogant that need to be quiet for they are the ones that are not afraid to lie and slander others. (Psalms 31:18) Pride is the downfall of many. (Proverbs 16:18; Malachi 4:1)  The proud and boastful cannot stand in His presence.  Such pride and arrogance is in fact sin, the same thing that separates us from God in the first place. (Psalms 5:5; Proverbs 21:4)  In fact, arrogance is one of the sinful things that man clings to when God gives them over to their own depravity. (Romans 1:26-32)  The pampered and spoiled will become proud, (Proverbs 29:21) they will never find rest. (Habakkuk 2:5)  The overseer is not to be prideful. (Titus 1:7)  It is not enough to be humble in the eyes of others or compared to others, the example of humility we are to strive for is that of Christ Himself. (Philippians 2:8 ) We instead are to offer prayers that are humble, with few words. (Ecclesiastes 5:2; Proverbs 10:19) 
The teaching ends with our the reason is because our Father already knows what we need. (as before, when we get to the actual parable of the Pharisees praying, there is much more to glean)  Which takes us straight into the Lord’s example of how to pray.  Scripture offers enough on prayer to make a whole LONG study on prayer alone.  So we are just scratching the surface here.
Matthew 6:9 “Therefore, you should pray like this:   Our Father in heaven,  Your name be honored as holy. 
Our prayers are to include worship, praise, and thanksgiving as we come before the throne of God in fear of the Lord (Proverbs 9:10) that produces a humility that allows us to come boldly and with confidence into His presence. (Ephesians 3:12; Hebrews 4:16)
10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Humility gives control over to God so that He can do what He wants in us and through us without us getting in the way. (Ephesians 4:30; Isaiah 63:10; I Thessalonians 5:19)
11 Give us today our daily bread.[e]
 
We are to ask for what we need while trusting God to provide as a young child trust his parents.  (Matthew 6:34; Luke 12:22; Philippians 4:6; I Peter 5:7; Matthew 6:8; Luke 12:34; Matthew 4:4;
12 And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
Scripture talks much about forgiving but maybe the one that sticks out the most here comes from our previous study, that we need to forgive even our enemy so that God can forgive us. (Matthew 5:44; Matthew 6:14-15)
13 And do not bring us into[f] temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.[g]
[For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.][h]
If our prayer is one of humility, it should be one that is more concerned about remaining righteous than having the comforts of the flesh. (James 4:14; Psalms 39:5; Psalms 78:39; Psalms 102:3; Psalms 144:4)
14 “For if you forgive people their wrongdoing, your heavenly Father will forgive you as well. 15 But if you don’t forgive people,[j] your Father will not forgive your wrongdoing
The prayer of both Love and humility is a prayer of righteousness and all the glory belongs to God never man. 
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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #56 on: June 08, 2021, 03:50:48 pm »
Are you sitting down?  I can only offer an alternative perspective.

A great many people use this teaching as an excuse to not give at all.  'I'm sorry... I cannot give (to this, or that) because I don't want anyone to know, or anyone to find out, or anyone to see me giving, because then I would lose my reward in heaven.  So then do they go give anonymously?  Sometimes.  Some do...  Most do not.  The simply excuse themselves and say things like "I give in secret" or "I give elsewhere."

In the parable it does NOT say, don't give (don't practice righteousness) -- don't do good works in front of others.  -It says don't let 'being seen by others' be the reason for your giving or good works.  Who cares if someone sees or takes notice.  You can only do so much in secret.  Elsewhere scripture teaches us to let our light shine so that our good works will be seen by others.  But again, don't let that attention be what motivates or captivates you, because you will become captive to it and in that way you will lose (trade) your reward in heaven for earthly accolades.  Bad trade.

The teaching is to give 'open-handedly' or without thinking...  Not letting your left hand know what your right hand is doing is actually a very old principle in which the right hand is considered the hand you extend to another (the hand that gives) and the left hand is the hand you keep to yourself (the hand that receives)  --in this the principle is to not consider what you give to be a determining factor in what you have received.  It's kind of the opposite of tithing-- which was the prevalent way of calculating what one was 'required' to give by both lawmakers and tax collectors alike in the temple system.
Tons of verses in what I posted talked about giving, are you just repeating what I said for emphasis or are you not reading what I post?

Is this a trick question?

If I hadn't read what you had wrote, why would I comment on it?

You had said that you were offering your perspective on Matthew 7 (which you referenced as the Parable of the Builders) but not before explaining what was said in Matthew 6 about giving.  You said- "I suddenly realized that we had to know more in order to fully understand this parable.  We had to know and at least to some degree understand the teachings that precede this parable."


I guess I was wondering about your "sudden realization" concerning what it was in the preceding parables (such as the perspective you offer on Matthew 6) that "we had to know" in order to fully understand Matthew 7.  Secondly, considering what you said and highlighted about the need to give (and perform acts of righteousness) in secret... how do you square that idea in Matt 6, with what precedes it in Matt 5?  (where Jesus teaches about setting your light on a stand in order for others to see)?


 
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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #57 on: June 08, 2021, 07:09:33 pm »
Are you sitting down?  I can only offer an alternative perspective.

A great many people use this teaching as an excuse to not give at all.  'I'm sorry... I cannot give (to this, or that) because I don't want anyone to know, or anyone to find out, or anyone to see me giving, because then I would lose my reward in heaven.  So then do they go give anonymously?  Sometimes.  Some do...  Most do not.  The simply excuse themselves and say things like "I give in secret" or "I give elsewhere."

In the parable it does NOT say, don't give (don't practice righteousness) -- don't do good works in front of others.  -It says don't let 'being seen by others' be the reason for your giving or good works.  Who cares if someone sees or takes notice.  You can only do so much in secret.  Elsewhere scripture teaches us to let our light shine so that our good works will be seen by others.  But again, don't let that attention be what motivates or captivates you, because you will become captive to it and in that way you will lose (trade) your reward in heaven for earthly accolades.  Bad trade.

The teaching is to give 'open-handedly' or without thinking...  Not letting your left hand know what your right hand is doing is actually a very old principle in which the right hand is considered the hand you extend to another (the hand that gives) and the left hand is the hand you keep to yourself (the hand that receives)  --in this the principle is to not consider what you give to be a determining factor in what you have received.  It's kind of the opposite of tithing-- which was the prevalent way of calculating what one was 'required' to give by both lawmakers and tax collectors alike in the temple system.
Tons of verses in what I posted talked about giving, are you just repeating what I said for emphasis or are you not reading what I post?

Is this a trick question?

If I hadn't read what you had wrote, why would I comment on it?

You had said that you were offering your perspective on Matthew 7 (which you referenced as the Parable of the Builders) but not before explaining what was said in Matthew 6 about giving.  You said- "I suddenly realized that we had to know more in order to fully understand this parable.  We had to know and at least to some degree understand the teachings that precede this parable."


I guess I was wondering about your "sudden realization" concerning what it was in the preceding parables (such as the perspective you offer on Matthew 6) that "we had to know" in order to fully understand Matthew 7.  Secondly, considering what you said and highlighted about the need to give (and perform acts of righteousness) in secret... how do you square that idea in Matt 6, with what precedes it in Matt 5?  (where Jesus teaches about setting your light on a stand in order for others to see)?


 
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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #58 on: June 08, 2021, 11:24:33 pm »
Are you sitting down?  I can only offer an alternative perspective.

A great many people use this teaching as an excuse to not give at all.  'I'm sorry... I cannot give (to this, or that) because I don't want anyone to know, or anyone to find out, or anyone to see me giving, because then I would lose my reward in heaven.  So then do they go give anonymously?  Sometimes.  Some do...  Most do not.  The simply excuse themselves and say things like "I give in secret" or "I give elsewhere."

In the parable it does NOT say, don't give (don't practice righteousness) -- don't do good works in front of others.  -It says don't let 'being seen by others' be the reason for your giving or good works.  Who cares if someone sees or takes notice.  You can only do so much in secret.  Elsewhere scripture teaches us to let our light shine so that our good works will be seen by others.  But again, don't let that attention be what motivates or captivates you, because you will become captive to it and in that way you will lose (trade) your reward in heaven for earthly accolades.  Bad trade.

The teaching is to give 'open-handedly' or without thinking...  Not letting your left hand know what your right hand is doing is actually a very old principle in which the right hand is considered the hand you extend to another (the hand that gives) and the left hand is the hand you keep to yourself (the hand that receives)  --in this the principle is to not consider what you give to be a determining factor in what you have received.  It's kind of the opposite of tithing-- which was the prevalent way of calculating what one was 'required' to give by both lawmakers and tax collectors alike in the temple system.
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« Reply #59 on: June 09, 2021, 03:47:33 am »
Are you sitting down?  I can only offer an alternative perspective.

A great many people use this teaching as an excuse to not give at all.  'I'm sorry... I cannot give (to this, or that) because I don't want anyone to know, or anyone to find out, or anyone to see me giving, because then I would lose my reward in heaven.  So then do they go give anonymously?  Sometimes.  Some do...  Most do not.  The simply excuse themselves and say things like "I give in secret" or "I give elsewhere."

In the parable it does NOT say, don't give (don't practice righteousness) -- don't do good works in front of others.  -It says don't let 'being seen by others' be the reason for your giving or good works.  Who cares if someone sees or takes notice.  You can only do so much in secret.  Elsewhere scripture teaches us to let our light shine so that our good works will be seen by others.  But again, don't let that attention be what motivates or captivates you, because you will become captive to it and in that way you will lose (trade) your reward in heaven for earthly accolades.  Bad trade.

The teaching is to give 'open-handedly' or without thinking...  Not letting your left hand know what your right hand is doing is actually a very old principle in which the right hand is considered the hand you extend to another (the hand that gives) and the left hand is the hand you keep to yourself (the hand that receives)  --in this the principle is to not consider what you give to be a determining factor in what you have received.  It's kind of the opposite of tithing-- which was the prevalent way of calculating what one was 'required' to give by both lawmakers and tax collectors alike in the temple system.

I agree, Mr E - Tweedle Deedle Dee

You agree with Mr E, Tweedle Deedle Dee....  then you see, you see.

All that Lori has written can be simplified and amplified and boiled down and presented by emphasizing just one thing.  Whether you are talking about acts of righteousness, or giving, or praying out loud.... "to be seen by men" is the one and only thing that makes what is otherwise good, 'suddenly' NOT good.

And it's not that you are seen that is the problem at all.  It's that that is the reason you did it.  It's the one that seeks recognition, that seeks praise for whatever it is they do (seen or not) that loses their reward.  It has nothing to do with being seen or not seen, and everything to do with WHY folks do the things they do.

When he taught us to pray for our daily bread-- it wasn't for 'the things we need' in terms of physical sustinence.  This thinking comes from the most basic and common misunderstanding of what "bread" is... He isn't speaking of physical bread here anymore than when he mentions it elsewhere-- or at the least you have to catch that he is talking about so much more than physical bread, because--

Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.  And after He had fasted forty days and forty nights, He then became hungry.  And the tempter came and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”  But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.’”

This (above) is one of those things that you have to understand, (like that parable in Matt 13) before you can understand other things.  We know this because he told us this exactly.  He said nothing of the sort concerning Matt 7 (and what Lori calls the parable of the Builders) but the principle holds true with all parables so I am looking forward to what Lori might share in this regard.


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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2021, 07:10:46 am »
Are you sitting down?  I can only offer an alternative perspective.

A great many people use this teaching as an excuse to not give at all.  'I'm sorry... I cannot give (to this, or that) because I don't want anyone to know, or anyone to find out, or anyone to see me giving, because then I would lose my reward in heaven.  So then do they go give anonymously?  Sometimes.  Some do...  Most do not.  The simply excuse themselves and say things like "I give in secret" or "I give elsewhere."

In the parable it does NOT say, don't give (don't practice righteousness) -- don't do good works in front of others.  -It says don't let 'being seen by others' be the reason for your giving or good works.  Who cares if someone sees or takes notice.  You can only do so much in secret.  Elsewhere scripture teaches us to let our light shine so that our good works will be seen by others.  But again, don't let that attention be what motivates or captivates you, because you will become captive to it and in that way you will lose (trade) your reward in heaven for earthly accolades.  Bad trade.

The teaching is to give 'open-handedly' or without thinking...  Not letting your left hand know what your right hand is doing is actually a very old principle in which the right hand is considered the hand you extend to another (the hand that gives) and the left hand is the hand you keep to yourself (the hand that receives)  --in this the principle is to not consider what you give to be a determining factor in what you have received.  It's kind of the opposite of tithing-- which was the prevalent way of calculating what one was 'required' to give by both lawmakers and tax collectors alike in the temple system.
Tons of verses in what I posted talked about giving, are you just repeating what I said for emphasis or are you not reading what I post?

Is this a trick question?

If I hadn't read what you had wrote, why would I comment on it?

You had said that you were offering your perspective on Matthew 7 (which you referenced as the Parable of the Builders) but not before explaining what was said in Matthew 6 about giving.  You said- "I suddenly realized that we had to know more in order to fully understand this parable.  We had to know and at least to some degree understand the teachings that precede this parable."


I guess I was wondering about your "sudden realization" concerning what it was in the preceding parables (such as the perspective you offer on Matthew 6) that "we had to know" in order to fully understand Matthew 7.  Secondly, considering what you said and highlighted about the need to give (and perform acts of righteousness) in secret... how do you square that idea in Matt 6, with what precedes it in Matt 5?  (where Jesus teaches about setting your light on a stand in order for others to see)?


 
The parable itself starts with those who have ears to hear and do the things I'm teaching...how then can we understand what follows if we don't first understand what is being taught that we are to obey?

BTW, my understanding being what God reveals to me through study, not just me taking the topic and saying, "I think it means..." but actually looking at scripture and the consistencies therein.

What is there to reconcile that I didn't already show in the context of scripture?  You lost me in what you are asking about what precedes in Matthew 5 about the light of the world...we are to live out what we believe with a humble heart...what is the inconsistency you want me to address?  It seems straight forward to me.

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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2021, 07:19:53 am »
Are you sitting down?  I can only offer an alternative perspective.

A great many people use this teaching as an excuse to not give at all.  'I'm sorry... I cannot give (to this, or that) because I don't want anyone to know, or anyone to find out, or anyone to see me giving, because then I would lose my reward in heaven.  So then do they go give anonymously?  Sometimes.  Some do...  Most do not.  The simply excuse themselves and say things like "I give in secret" or "I give elsewhere."

In the parable it does NOT say, don't give (don't practice righteousness) -- don't do good works in front of others.  -It says don't let 'being seen by others' be the reason for your giving or good works.  Who cares if someone sees or takes notice.  You can only do so much in secret.  Elsewhere scripture teaches us to let our light shine so that our good works will be seen by others.  But again, don't let that attention be what motivates or captivates you, because you will become captive to it and in that way you will lose (trade) your reward in heaven for earthly accolades.  Bad trade.

The teaching is to give 'open-handedly' or without thinking...  Not letting your left hand know what your right hand is doing is actually a very old principle in which the right hand is considered the hand you extend to another (the hand that gives) and the left hand is the hand you keep to yourself (the hand that receives)  --in this the principle is to not consider what you give to be a determining factor in what you have received.  It's kind of the opposite of tithing-- which was the prevalent way of calculating what one was 'required' to give by both lawmakers and tax collectors alike in the temple system.

I agree, Mr E - Tweedle Deedle Dee

You agree with Mr E, Tweedle Deedle Dee....  then you see, you see.

All that Lori has written can be simplified and amplified and boiled down and presented by emphasizing just one thing.  Whether you are talking about acts of righteousness, or giving, or praying out loud.... "to be seen by men" is the one and only thing that makes what is otherwise good, 'suddenly' NOT good.
I was asked to present a study on the parables of Christ, how can I do that if all I am asked by you to do is read the parable then say what seems obvious without scripture to back it up and expand on the truth of scripture?
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And it's not that you are seen that is the problem at all.  It's that that is the reason you did it.  It's the one that seeks recognition, that seeks praise for whatever it is they do (seen or not) that loses their reward.  It has nothing to do with being seen or not seen, and everything to do with WHY folks do the things they do.
again, that is in the study, I even talk about examples in scripture where public prayer was offered and accepted by God...you know, scripture, not opinion...
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When he taught us to pray for our daily bread-- it wasn't for 'the things we need' in terms of physical sustinence.  This thinking comes from the most basic and common misunderstanding of what "bread" is... He isn't speaking of physical bread here anymore than when he mentions it elsewhere-- or at the least you have to catch that he is talking about so much more than physical bread, because--
which is why I included in the study the passage about man not living by bread alone...so again I wonder if you even read what I posted since all this "summary" is included in the study but you act like it isn't.
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Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.  And after He had fasted forty days and forty nights, He then became hungry.  And the tempter came and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”  But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.’”
a passage I once again included in the study...here is the thing you are missing...I welcome discussion, I am not fond of people making baseless accusations when the evidence is right there to begin with.
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This (above) is one of those things that you have to understand, (like that parable in Matt 13) before you can understand other things.  We know this because he told us this exactly.  He said nothing of the sort concerning Matt 7 (and what Lori calls the parable of the Builders) but the principle holds true with all parables so I am looking forward to what Lori might share in this regard.
I don't even know what that means...the parable of the builders...first line...24 “Therefore, everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them will be like a sensible man who built his house on the rock. ...now how can we continue in the parable and understand it if we don't know what teaching He is referring to to begin with?
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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #62 on: June 09, 2021, 09:54:17 am »
Fasting...
Matthew 6:16 “Whenever you fast, don’t be sad-faced like the hypocrites. For they make their faces unattractive[l] so their fasting is obvious to people. I assure you: They’ve got their reward! 17 But when you fast, put oil on your head, and wash your face, 18 so that you don’t show your fasting to people but to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.[m]

This teaching seems straight forward, don’t fast for the sake of others seeing what you are doing.  A very similar teaching to that of prayer, do so in humility not for show but for the Lord.  The first thing I want to point out here is about anointing the head with oil.  This is like a perfumed custom of the time, kind of like saying today, get up, wash your face, put on deodorant and get dressed.  If we look throughout scripture, fasting is often associated with sackcloth and ashes or even mourning which makes this significant to the teaching.  (Nehemiah 1:4; Nehemiah 9:1; Esther 9:31; Psalms 35:13; Psalms 109:24) Where we may be mourning the sin, repenting in sackcloth and ashes, we are not to make a show of it. 
The fast is for seeking the Lord, turning all the attention to Him. (Jeremiah 36:6; Daniel 9:3; Joel 2:12)  If up to this point you have not been reading the passages that go along with the text, I urge you to do so with this one.  Isaiah 58 is all about fasting, the wrong way and the right way.  Let’s start by reviewing verses 3 and 4.  We are told that the people were fasting but complaining because God wasn’t doing what they wanted.  Their fasts were about self denial all the while they were doing what they wanted.  In other words, they were denying themselves food but nothing else.  When we crucify self, (Galatians 5:24; Romans 8:13-14) we are to deny ourselves of the sinful desires, the passions of the flesh, we are to crucify the sin nature that we were born with.  The people however were only denying themselves of food and were in fact, doing anything else they wanted to do, including but not limited to oppressing their slaves, with contention and strife in their hearts, and with vicious fighting.  As we move on through the passage we come to verses 6-8 where we are told what fasting should be.  The fasting that God wants from us is about breaking the chains of wickedness, to lighten the yoke that we wear.  (Matthew 11:30; I John 5:3) It is to set the oppressed free, to share your food with the hungry, to clothe those that are naked.  It is about doing God’s business, Loving the least of these.  (Matthew 25:40-45)  So once again, the teaching Jesus is referring to is to serve Him in humility, not for self glory but to the glory of the Living God.
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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #63 on: June 11, 2021, 11:39:37 am »
God and Possessions
Matthew 6:19 “Don’t collect for yourselves treasures[n] on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But collect for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves don’t break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
   We know what earthly treasures are, money, possessions like cars, boats, houses, even heirlooms, things that we cannot take with us when we die. (James 5:1-6)  But what are the treasures of heaven?  Psalms 83:3 talks about God’s treasured ones, people are treasures which took me back to the parable (not yet looked at) of the Lost Sheep.  In the parable, the shepherd has 100 sheep but one is lost.  The shepherd leaves the 99 to go look for the one that is lost and when it is found, the real rejoicing begins. (Matthew 18:10-14) Of course there are other such accounts in scripture but the key point here is that true believers are treasures to God and worthy of our rejoicing.  We touched on how believers are treasures in heaven and how rejoicing with God over the lost who become saved is important, but also consider this passage in Mark 16:15-16 and the previous study we did on the salt and light.  We are God’s ambassadors for a reason.  (II Corinthians 5:20)
God’s word is also a treasure we need to store up in our hearts, (Psalms 119:11) as are the promises of God.  (Psalms 119:162) It is little wonder that scripture tells us to study the word, (II Timothy 2:15) as well as hiding His word in our hearts.  (Psalms 119:11-16)  Interestingly enough Jesus is one of the promises of God, the Messiah. (Colossians 2:3)
Another treasure is wisdom from God, (Proverbs 2:1-5) even knowledge of the Living God is a heavenly treasure. (Proverbs 20:15; Proverbs 24:3-4)  The fear of the Lord is not only a heavenly treasure but enhances our heavenly treasures. (Isaiah 33:6; Proverbs 15:16)  The wisdom of God is not out of reach however, it is given to all who ask for it without God finding fault. (James 1:5-6)  Wisdom begins with our fear of the Lord. (Proverbs 9:10)
   The fear of the Lord is not only the beginning of wisdom but is a treasure all on it’s own..  Many people do not understand what the fear of the Lord is.  Psalms 34:11-22 tells us that the fear of the Lord is that which stirs us, drives us to righteousness.  I once heard a Rabbi say that to the Jews, sin was temporary insanity because you would have to be insane to know who God is and still sin.  This is the mentality that is presented in the teaching on the fear of the Lord.  So one of the treasures we can lay up for ourselves is the fear of the Lord, well, the righteousness that follows that fear.
   One of the ways to lay up for yourself treasures in heaven is to give to the poor, but not just giving to the poor but giving from all that you own not just the excess. (Matthew 19:21; Mark 10:21; Luke 12:33; Luke 18:22)  Hebrews 11:26 even tells us that reproach because of Christ, is a treasure as well.  We need to Love God more than the wealth we can store up on earth, wealth that we cannot take with us and will eventually disappear.
   Finally, consider II Corinthians 4:7-18, the treasures that are from above, treasures like Christ and the word of God, are stored in earthen vessels.  What are earthen vessels?  Our flesh.  This was designed by God so that the power of God could be revealed through our weakness.  (II Corinthians 12:9-11) which once again takes us back where we started, living out the faith that we have, but let us add here that it is living it out in power and might. (II Timothy 3:5; II Thessalonians 3:6) This happens because our flesh shares in Jesus' suffering so that the life of Christ might also be witnessed.  (I Peter 2:21; I Peter 4:13; Romans 8:17-18; II Corinthians 1:5; II Corinthians 4:10; Philippians 3:10; II Corinthians 6:3-13) Life on earth is not suppose to be heaven on earth, (John 16:33; Acts 14:22) but rather an opportunity to show the world not just tell the world the Love and power of the Living God.

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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #64 on: June 14, 2021, 09:54:01 am »
The Lamp of the body...
Matthew 6:22 “The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light. 23 But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. So if the light within you is darkness—how deep is that darkness!
   I expected when I did this one to find it exceptionally easy.  The problem was that grief overtook me as to those who are living in this darkness, a darkness they don’t even realize they are living in.  So I took extra time to not only pray for them and to examine myself to look for any hidden darkness, but also to look for ways to combat it.  There is a saying, ‘there are none so blind as those who will not see.’  This saying applies here.  For the one who willingly allows himself to be blind, it’s a double whammy which we ware about to find out. 
   My grandfather became blind later in life. One day after Christmas, it was my job to lead him to the car while we waited for my grandmother and  aunt to finish their business at a lock department store (chain store)  The crowds were so massive that even though I held his hand, he ended up on one side of the door and I on the other, desperately trying to hold on so he knew I was there while the crowds pushed on through without caring or helping us to be together so we could get out of their way.  Deuteronomy 27:18 tells us that the one who leads a blind person astray is cursed.  More times than not, the willingly blind is the one who thinks they are not blind but furthermore they think they are great teachers who cannot learn anything.  Romans 2:17-24 talks about the blind who are hypocrites because they do not learn from what they teach to others.  Meanwhile, like the Pharisees, many of the blind presume it is their job and calling to teach. (Matthew 23:1-39)  God takes them seriously. (Matthew 18:6) leading others astray is not tolerated and will be punished.
   So who are the blind? Isaiah 29:9-24 talks about the blind being those that worship God with their words but their hearts are far from Him, but remember it is from our hearts that our actions flow, so they are the hypocrites that say do this, follow that, but then act as if they themselves are above the law. (Luke 6:45)  It goes on to say that the blind person is the one that worship man made rules.  They are legalistic and follow teachers rather than the One True Teacher, Jesus Christ.  They try to hide what they are doing from God, doing their works in darkness all the while blaming God and making excuses.  The Pharisees are a perfect example of the willfully blind. (Matthew 23:16-17)  II Peter 1:9 adds to our understanding of who the blind are when it talks about the blind are those that lack faith, goodness, knowledge, self control, endurance, godliness, brotherly affection, and Love. There are all things the faithful will be growing in but are found lacking in the blind.  It further says that the blind have forgotten the cleansing they had from their past sins.  The blind hate their brother. (I John 2:11) The darkness has blinded their eyes and they cannot see because of the hate they harbor in their hearts.  Likewise the blind see themselves as the provider of their needs. (Revelation 3:14-22) They are those who knew God but neither glorified Him as God or showed any gratitude to Him.  (Romans 1:21)
   The blind stay blind because they love darkness more than the light since their deeds are evil. (John 3:19) Sometimes it is because of ignorance or hardened hearts that keeps them blind, (Ephesians 4:18) which takes us back to the  previous teaching on the need to be humble. If they/we stay in darkness, it will overtake us like a thief. (I Thessalonians 5:4-5)  As sad of a state of blindness is, these have a hope and that hope is the Lord Jesus Christ.  (Matthew 4:16)  If however, they remain in their darkness, they themselves will be thrown into outer darkness. (Matthew 8:12) 
The problem is that we need to have our whole body full of light and this is an ongoing thing in which we are to work it out daily. (Luke 11:36; Philippians 2:12; John 1:5; John 12:46)  Jesus Christ is the light that we need to chase the darkness from within.  (I John 1:5-6)  When we follow Jesus, (John 8:12) when we believe in Him and the power of His Love, (John 12:46) the blindness sees the light.  Sometimes we need someone who is sent by God Himself to share Christ with us. (Acts 26:12-23) It takes discarding the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light that chases away the darkness that causes our blindness. (Romans 13:12) Those in the light, walk with decency, putting off the things of the world. (Romans 13:11-14) If we are the one’s living in darkness, we need to be rescued from the darkness by Christ, no one else can do it for us. (Colossians 1:13; I Peter 2:9)
Finally, the one living in light will live in an open display of truth. (II Corinthians 4:1-6) We not only will walk as children of the light, but we will expose the darkness around us. (Ephesians 5:8) We are not fighting a battle of this earthly making but of the spiritual. (Ephesians 6:12) and as such, we live in the Light of Christ. (I Peter 2:9)
I think the last line of this teaching is a haunting reminder of why this is so important.  So if the light within you is darkness—how deep is that darkness!  Indeed there are few things in this world that are sadder than those who have deceived themselves in their pride, to think they have the light when the darkness within is so consuming that they no longer look to or for the light.  This is a consuming darkness that they willingly accept and live in.

 

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