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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2021, 07:20:04 am »
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Matthew 5:38 ďYou have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.39 But I tell you, donít resist an evildoer. On the contrary, if anyone slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 As for the one who wants to sue you and take away your shirt, let him have your coat as well. 41 And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and donít turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
   The first verse gives us a clue as to what Jesus is talking about here.  Many people want to turn this into a thread demanding all believers be pacifists but that is not what Jesus is talking about here.  An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is about vengeance.  Again, this teaching comes straight out of the law.  (Leviticus 24:19-21) The law required that the offender repay the one injured.  In fact, retribution is not just about what was taken but interest as well. (Proverbs 6:31)   Remember, Jesus is teaching the law in a way that the people had never heard before.  He is teaching the intent of the law.  By talking about vengeance, we must keep our understanding to that principle.
   The evil doer here is the one that desires to do harm, not that which is accidental. So if someone intends harm to you, we are not to resist them.  This does not mean as some teach, that we cannot defend ourselves but rather that we are not to set ourselves against the one who is desiring to do us harm.  Think here of two aspects of someone wanting to do us harm, letís say that someone is trying to steal from us.  First we are not to stand against them, in other words, not do something to continue the anger and hostility that is bringing the evil into our lives.  Secondly, we are not to retaliate.  So letís see it in scripture.
   If God is giving us the words to speak which is consistent with the working of the Holy Spirit within our lives, then our adversaries will have no rebuttal. (Luke 21:15; Acts 6:10; Romans 9:19)  The resisting we are to do is the spiritual resisting that results when we put on the full armor of God. (Ephesians 6:13) Since our battle is not physical, our reaction to it should be spiritual. (Ephesians 6:12) Likewise we are to resist the devil. (James 4:7)  We are not to resist God and the things of God. (Romans 13:2; II Timothy 4:15; I Peter 5:9)
   To understand Jesus better, we can look at the idea of revenge.  We are not to take revenge on those who do us wrong. Vengeance is best left to God. (Proverbs 20:22; Proverbs 24:29; Proverbs 12:17; Proverbs 12:19)  To go a step further, Jesus talks about how we are not to sue each other.  Suing someone in court is to take the issues between brothers to unbelievers for their judgment.  Instead, if we have an unresolved issue with a brother, we are to allow the church to judge.  (Matthew 18; I Corinthians 6:1-11)  John 18:19-24 gives us a beautiful picture of the heart of the law in the case of turning the other cheek.  It is the fullness of time and the final days of Jesus' earthly life are about to come to an end.  He is taken before Annas and there questioned when He answers, one of the guards responds with a slap to His face.  Jesus responded, ď23 ďIf I have spoken wrongly, give evidence about the wrong; but if rightly, why do you hit Me?Ē  Jesus did not resist, He simply spoke truth in Love.
   To further clarify the context of Jesus teaching here, we come to verse 40 and 41 where Jesus is talking about someone demanding your cloak. (Luke 6:29-30; Proverbs 6:30-31)  Often when studying I think of real life examples of a Biblical truth.  This is one such time.  Brian was in seminary and we were barely surviving financially.  We had 3 small boys and our only car broke down.  We were stuck.  A friend who was also in seminary and not well off had just sold her old car and bought a newer one.  Finding out our situation (we live in an area where vehicles are pretty much a necessity) she bought back her old car and gifted it to us.  We didnít ask for it or demand it but the heart of that dear friend is the same heart we are talking about here.  The heart of giving out of Love.  Love puts the other person above the interest of one Loving another.  Love is going the extra mile, it is giving even when it is hard or inconvenient.  Love does not retaliate but instead, Love helps the one who desires to do evil by providing for him what he needs.

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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2021, 07:23:58 am »
Okay, I have repeatedly tried to correct it and for some reason it will not remove the line...I have requested help if we can't find a way to fix it I can try to repost the study.

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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2021, 10:11:31 am »

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Matthew 5:38 ďYou have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.[r] 39 But I tell you, donít resist an evildoer. On the contrary, if anyone slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 As for the one who wants to sue you and take away your shirt,[t] let him have your coat as well. 41 And if anyone forces[v] you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and donít turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

The first verse gives us a clue as to what Jesus is talking about here. Many people want to turn this into a thread demanding all believers be pacifists but that is not what Jesus is talking about here. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is about vengeance. Again, this teaching comes straight out of the law. (Leviticus 24:19-21) The law required that the offender repay the one injured. In fact, retribution is not just about what was taken but interest as well. (Proverbs 6:31) Remember, Jesus is teaching the law in a way that the people had never heard before. He is teaching the intent of the law. By talking about vengeance, we must keep our understanding to that principle.

The evil doer here is the one that desires to do harm, not that which is accidental. So if someone intends harm to you, we are not to resist them. This does not mean as some teach, that we cannot defend ourselves but rather that we are not to set ourselves against the one who is desiring to do us harm. Think here of two aspects of someone wanting to do us harm, letís say that someone is trying to steal from us. First we are not to stand against them, in other words, not do something to continue the anger and hostility that is bringing the evil into our lives. Secondly, we are not to retaliate. So letís see it in scripture.

If God is giving us the words to speak which is consistent with the working of the Holy Spirit within our lives, then our adversaries will have no rebuttal. (Luke 21:15; Acts 6:10; Romans 9:19) The resisting we are to do is the spiritual resisting that results when we put on the full armor of God. (Ephesians 6:13) Since our battle is not physical, our reaction to it should be spiritual. (Ephesians 6:12) Likewise we are to resist the devil. (James 4:7) We are not to resist God and the things of God. (Romans 13:2; II Timothy 4:15; I Peter 5:9)

To understand Jesus better, we can look at the idea of revenge. We are not to take revenge on those who do us wrong. Vengeance is best left to God. (Proverbs 20:22; Proverbs 24:29; Proverbs 12:17; Proverbs 12:19) To go a step further, Jesus talks about how we are not to sue each other. Suing someone in court is to take the issues between brothers to unbelievers for their judgment. Instead, if we have an unresolved issue with a brother, we are to allow the church to judge. (Matthew 18; I Corinthians 6:1-11) John 18:19-24 gives us a beautiful picture of the heart of the law in the case of turning the other cheek. It is the fullness of time and the final days of Jesus' earthly life are about to come to an end. He is taken before Annas and there questioned when He answers, one of the guards responds with a slap to His face. Jesus responded, ď23 ďIf I have spoken wrongly, give evidence about the wrong; but if rightly, why do you hit Me?Ē Jesus did not resist, He simply spoke truth in Love.

To further clarify the context of Jesus teaching here, we come to verse 40 and 41 where Jesus is talking about someone demanding your cloak. (Luke 6:29-30; Proverbs 6:30-31) Often when studyingI think of real life examples of a Biblical truth. This is one such time. Brian was in seminary and we were barely surviving financially. We had 3 small boys and our only car broke down. We were stuck. A friend who was also in seminary and not well off had just sold her old car and bought a newer one. Finding out our situation (we live in an area where vehicles are pretty much a necessity) she bought back her old car and gifted it to us. We didnít ask for it or demand it but the heart of that dear friend is the same heart we are talking about here. The heart of giving out of Love. Love puts the other person above the interest of one Loving another. Love is going the extra mile, it is giving even when it is hard or inconvenient. Love does not retaliate but instead, Love helps the one who desires to do evil by providing for him what he needs.

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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2021, 10:13:14 am »
I have no idea, it only has the stick through here and the mod can't remove it either.

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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2021, 11:17:53 am »
I have no idea, it only has the stick through here and the mod can't remove it either.
The editor has munched some of my posts also, especially quotes...toggle view and remove formatting are especially erratic.
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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2021, 11:20:17 am »
There, I think that got it, not sure how it happened, but I think that should fix it.
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« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2021, 03:56:36 pm »
Okay, I have repeatedly tried to correct it and for some reason it will not remove the line...I have requested help if we can't find a way to fix it I can try to repost the study.
Hey Lori I edited your post and took out the line for you hope that helps out...
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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2021, 04:01:19 pm »
Okay, I have repeatedly tried to correct it and for some reason it will not remove the line...I have requested help if we can't find a way to fix it I can try to repost the study.
Hey Lori I edited your post and took out the line for you hope that helps out...
Thank you hon she fixed it after a while but it's good to know that you can do that @La Shonda - I love you
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« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2021, 05:08:31 pm »
Okay, I have repeatedly tried to correct it and for some reason it will not remove the line...I have requested help if we can't find a way to fix it I can try to repost the study.
Hey Lori I edited your post and took out the line for you hope that helps out...
Thank you hon she fixed it after a while but it's good to know that you can do that @La Shonda - I love you
You're welcome hon, learning as I go wanted to see if I can fix the line and I did ... @patrick jane I love you too hon...🥰
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« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2021, 06:22:05 am »
Okay, I have repeatedly tried to correct it and for some reason it will not remove the line...I have requested help if we can't find a way to fix it I can try to repost the study.
Hey Lori I edited your post and took out the line for you hope that helps out...
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Re: Parables of Jesus bit by bit
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2021, 02:07:14 pm »
Love Your Enemies...
Matthew 5:43 ďYou have heard that it was said, Love your neighbor[w] and hate your enemy. 44 But I tell you, love your enemies
  • and pray for those who[y] persecute you, 45 so that you may be[z] sons of your Father in heaven. For He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward will you have? Donít even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing out of the ordinary?[aa] Donít even the Gentiles[ab] do the same? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

When I read this several questions come to mind that I seldom hear anyone else ask.  Questions like who is my enemy, how or what we should pray for our enemies, does this include self protection from real harm not just discomfort, etc.  So letís see what we can find in scripture that will inform us on some of these questions.  Exodus 15:9 gives us a picture into the heart of an enemy.  (HCSB) 9The enemy said:  ďI will pursue, I will overtake, I will divide the spoil.k  My desire will be gratified at their expense.
I will draw my sword; my hand will destroy them.Ē  An enemy is one who wishes to destroy you.  The devil fits this description, so we can definitely say that the devil is our enemy.  (I Peter 5:8) This is important to our spiritual walk but does little for understanding this passage as we are to resist the devil. (James 4:7)  Acts 13:10 talks about the enemy as the one who tries to pervert the straight paths of the Lord. This then would include false teachers and others who try to draw us away from God.  Those who are actively doing the will of the devil.  I Corinthians 15:26 tells us that death is our enemy but again that doesnít seem to fit here. So then we come to Galatians 4:16 where we see that someone can become an enemy by speaking truth that is not well accepted.  Thus we know that the enemy here is flesh and blood like we are but we also know from this that the enemy being identified is one who is persecuting us.  Persecution would be for the purpose of doing us harm, both physical and spiritual but the emphasis here seems to be spiritual.
   Before we talk about how to pray for our enemy letís touch on persecution. Persecution does not have to be only physical abuse, it can also be verbal. (Psalms 119:86) Persecution has been part of the gospel since Old Testament times.  (Matthew 5:12; Luke 11:49) It is also prophesied that persecution would be coming. In fact, all believers should expect persecution. (Romans 12:9-21; Matthew 5:10-11; Matthew 5:12; Luke 21:12; John 15:20; II Corinthians 4:9; II Timothy 3:12)  Both men and women are persecuted, (Acts 22:4) but it is also important to endure persecution for Christís sake. (I Corinthians 4:12)
   Even the law tells us to care for our enemies. (Exodus 23:4)  The heart of the law extends into the New Testament. (Romans 12:20)  We are also cautioned to not treat a brother who has done us wrong like an enemy. (II Thessalonians 3:6-15)  The passage tells us we are to pray for those who persecute us.  According to the passage it is because they too might come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.  So how then are we to pray for them?  This time of prayer is not a show so that our enemy will take notice, much less the church. (Matthew 6:5)  First, prayer is not just about them but about us also, we need to forgive them.  We need to pray that not only we can forgive but that our brothers and sisters around the world will have the power and desire to forgive those that persecute them and those they love. A forgiveness that is without anger. (Mark 11:24; I Timothy 2:8) From the standpoint of our prayer and our own heart, we need to pray that we will be protected.  Again this protection is more about the spiritual than the flesh though praying for the flesh is not evil. (John 17:9) We need to devote ourselves to prayer in general because this includes the one who is persecuting us. (Acts 6:4; Romans 12:12; I Peter 4:7)  We should be praying that the one who is doing harm will come to salvation thus avoiding the wrath of God. (Acts 8:22-24; Romans 10:1) Our prayers should be in the power of the Holy Spirit. (Jude 1:20; Romans 8:26-27) The whole purpose of the teaching is that the one who is persecuting us might come to Christ as Paul who was a prosecutor did thus become a testimony to the power and Love of God. (Matthew 5:45) This is an act of Love that fulfills the law. (John 15:13) This is a Love that the world cannot understand. (I Corinthians 1:21-27; I Corinthians 2:12; Psalms 8:2) Which brings us back to where we began, being the salt of the earth, the light of the world, the ambassadors that Christ has called us to be, those who show the world a better way.

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« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2021, 09:58:10 pm »
Okay, I have repeatedly tried to correct it and for some reason it will not remove the line...I have requested help if we can't find a way to fix it I can try to repost the study.
Hey Lori I edited your post and took out the line for you hope that helps out...
Thank you hon she fixed it after a while but it's good to know that you can do that @La Shonda - I love you
You're welcome hon, learning as I go wanted to see if I can fix the line and I did ... @patrick jane I love you too hon...🥰

Hello peach.... if you might share how you fixed it please?  We have had no Moderator training and some of us are old!!!! -and can't figure out ALL THESE BUTTONS! lol
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« Reply #51 on: June 04, 2021, 12:31:59 am »



Hello peach.... if you might share how you fixed it please?  We have had no Moderator training and some of us are old!!!! -and can't figure out ALL THESE BUTTONS! lol
I clicked on modify when I modified her post and I did her post what it is when you type to get the strike thru like this I took away  what she had was the bracelets right and left [] with the letter s in the middle of it so I took that out when I edited her post and took this away I took anything that had bracelet I had to space so you know what I took out  [ s ] hope this helps out.
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