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Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
« on: July 11, 2021, 12:14:06 pm »
Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that animals do not have souls! but from this statement and others they do!


Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea."


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Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2021, 04:14:49 pm »
Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that animals do not have souls! but from this statement and others they do!


Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea."


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If they are alive then I think they are living souls or living beings still having the breath of life.
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Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2021, 06:56:52 pm »
Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that animals do not have souls! but from this statement and others they do!


Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea."


Blade
If they are alive then I think they are living souls or living beings still having the breath of life.

YES, but many believe that dogs, cats, etc. have no soul as we do. the next questions is where do their souls go after their death?

Blade

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Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2021, 07:47:39 pm »
Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that animals do not have souls! but from this statement and others they do!


Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea."


Blade
If they are alive then I think they are living souls or living beings still having the breath of life.

YES, but many believe that dogs, cats, etc. have no soul as we do. the next questions is where do their souls go after their death?

Blade
I wouldn't want to go beyond what is written. Both man and animals are living souls while alive and both received the breath of life from God and all souls belong to God.

Job 12:10 In his hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind.

Ecclesiastes 3:19-20  For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return.

Ecclesiastes 12:7  And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

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Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2021, 11:03:19 am »
Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that animals do not have souls! but from this statement and others they do!Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea."Blade

WE are also taught that the serpent was MORE CUNNING in evil that the rest of the animals and that he was also cursed for his sinfulness MORE THAN  the other animals from which we can infer that the animals are sinful though not as leavened in sin as the serpent.

This sin of violence was also judged of the animals who died with sinful  mankind in the flood.

IF you are looking of strange verses and interpretations, it is a possibility that some of the fallen angels flung down to the earth to sheol are sown into the world as animals...While I strongly deny this occurs with the sinful elect I see no reason to deny that the non-elect who are the ones who claim to have experienced past lives and also claim human souls reincarnate as animals are liars.

We also know that the wicked RETURN to Sheol at their death; the eisegetical rendering of return as to go into to help us to avoid any hint of pre-conception life notwithstanding. PS 9:17 The wicked will return to Sheol—all the nations who forget God.

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Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2021, 01:52:05 pm »
Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that animals do not have souls! but from this statement and others they do!Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea."Blade

WE are also taught that the serpent was MORE CUNNING in evil that the rest of the animals and that he was also cursed for his sinfulness MORE THAN  the other animals from which we can infer that the animals are sinful though not as leavened in sin as the serpent.

This sin of violence was also judged of the animals who died with sinful  mankind in the flood.

IF you are looking of strange verses and interpretations, it is a possibility that some of the fallen angels flung down to the earth to sheol are sown into the world as animals...While I strongly deny this occurs with the sinful elect I see no reason to deny that the non-elect who are the ones who claim to have experienced past lives and also claim human souls reincarnate as animals are liars.

We also know that the wicked RETURN to Sheol at their death; the eisegetical rendering of return as to go into to help us to avoid any hint of pre-conception life notwithstanding. PS 9:17 The wicked will return to Sheol—all the nations who forget God.[/..size]

Psa 9:17 (KJV).. "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God."

The above scripture does not say the wicked return to Hell but that they are sent there. Ted, you got wild on the animals. The Breath of Life from the creator is the Soul of us all, animals, fish, bugs included.

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Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2021, 11:06:58 am »

Psa 9:17 (KJV).. "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God."

The above scripture does not say the wicked return to Hell but that they are sent there. Ted, you got wild on the animals. The Breath of Life from the creator is the Soul of us all, animals, fish, bugs included.

Blade
Yes, I agree that the word soul probably ny means individual alright.


As for Psa 9:17, yes the ENGLISH does say they were sent there but the Hebrew word for go down (etc) shub, Strong’s H7725, to turn back, to return.

Word Origin a prim. root
Definition:(0, 19, 32)]to turn back, return So where do we take our first and most probable meaning from, the Hebrew as written or the English eisegetical false reinterpretation of the Hebrew that totally reverses the meaning of the verse!!!? Just because you have missed this little eisegetical deke in your years of study does not mean THEY RETURN TO SHEOL is wrong.

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Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2021, 07:03:29 pm »

Psa 9:17 (KJV).. "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God."

The above scripture does not say the wicked return to Hell but that they are sent there. Ted, you got wild on the animals. The Breath of Life from the creator is the Soul of us all, animals, fish, bugs included.

Blade
Yes, I agree that the word soul probably ny means individual alright.


As for Psa 9:17, yes the ENGLISH does say they were sent there but the Hebrew word for go down (etc) shub, Strong’s H7725, to turn back, to return.

Word Origin a prim. root
Definition:(0, 19, 32)]to turn back, return So where do we take our first and most probable meaning from, the Hebrew as written or the English eisegetical false reinterpretation of the Hebrew that totally reverses the meaning of the verse!!!? Just because you have missed this little eisegetical deke in your years of study does not mean THEY RETURN TO SHEOL is wrong.

Yes, I see: the phrase is a imperfect 3rd person masculine verb and by looking at the context, we find that they (wicked) are turned (returned) back to Hell (Lake of Fire, in English, Hell is either) because they (wicked) were in Hell (Sheol- the holding place) from their death.

Thank you for bringing my attention to that, I missed it.

Blade

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Re: Are their souls in the sea that are alive?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2021, 09:23:51 pm »
Are there Souls alive in the sea. We have been told that animals do not have souls! but from this statement and others they do!


Rev. 16:3.(KJV).."And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea."


Blade

I would offer the sea as salty water represent judgment. Salt is used that way throughout the Bible . The Sea gives up the dead not living souls

James 3:12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
 
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