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So twice now I have been told that the difference between another poster and myself is that they are all academic where as I am about application....that isn't totally true since I believe in both but I digress...so is scripture just an exercise in academics or is it something we are to apply to our lives?  When teaching, how should it be taught, as academic only or with real life applications as well?

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2 Timothy 3:16-17 King James Version (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Because you can only teach what you know, I don't even understand how (or why) you could teach about something somebody else has already said/written...

I still don't see how anybody can teach about Joshua of Nazareth. We have only very little information on Him.
Many of the quotes attributed to Him have a poetic value, which makes it possible to interpret in different ways.

I think we can leave it to the scribes to use religion for "academic" reasons...

Isn't teaching somebody else on religion described in the following Jesus Christ quote?!?
Luke 6:41-42
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And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.

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Because you can only teach what you know, I don't even understand how (or why) you could teach about something somebody else has already said/written...

I still don't see how anybody can teach about Joshua of Nazareth. We have only very little information on Him.
Many of the quotes attributed to Him have a poetic value, which makes it possible to interpret in different ways.

I think we can leave it to the scribes to use religion for "academic" reasons...

Isn't teaching somebody else on religion described in the following Jesus Christ quote?!?
Luke 6:41-42
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And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.
Yet one of the gifts of the HS is teaching...why?

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Yet one of the gifts of the HS is teaching...why?
In my opinion the (only) value of the Bible is (the teachings of) "Jesus Christ".

I think that an even better way of teaching others than "teaching" about what we know, is to teach them to think (again) after being brainwashed by school, media, science and organised religion.

When I first read the Bible (if I remember correctly in 1999), I was surprised that many of the things "Jesus Christ" preached are still actual.
Almost 2000 years ago, "Jesus Christ" was already trying to "cure" people from being brainwashed by the slavedrivers.

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Yet one of the gifts of the HS is teaching...why?
In my opinion the (only) value of the Bible is (the teachings of) "Jesus Christ".

I think that an even better way of teaching others than "teaching" about what we know, is to teach them to think (again) after being brainwashed by school, media, science and organised religion.

When I first read the Bible (if I remember correctly in 1999), I was surprised that many of the things "Jesus Christ" preached are still actual.
Almost 2000 years ago, "Jesus Christ" was already trying to "cure" people from being brainwashed by the slavedrivers.
I homeschooled our 5 children, what I taught them was how to learn for themselves anything they wanted to know.  I taught them to love knowledge, to seek truth, to use critical thinking.  I don't think anything less is actually teaching but rather brainwashing.  Maybe I am strange in this respect but there are a whole lot of educators in our world (both in schools and in churches) but very few teachers it would seem.  Just some food for thought.

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So twice now I have been told that the difference between another poster and myself is that they are all academic where as I am about application....that isn't totally true since I believe in both but I digress...so is scripture just an exercise in academics or is it something we are to apply to our lives?  When teaching, how should it be taught, as academic only or with real life applications as well?
Both
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Because you can only teach what you know, I don't even understand how (or why) you could teach about something somebody else has already said/written...

I still don't see how anybody can teach about Joshua of Nazareth. We have only very little information on Him.
Many of the quotes attributed to Him have a poetic value, which makes it possible to interpret in different ways.

I think we can leave it to the scribes to use religion for "academic" reasons...

Isn't teaching somebody else on religion described in the following Jesus Christ quote?!?
Luke 6:41-42
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And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.
What of those that have and are experiencing God?

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Yet one of the gifts of the HS is teaching...why?
In my opinion the (only) value of the Bible is (the teachings of) "Jesus Christ".

I think that an even better way of teaching others than "teaching" about what we know, is to teach them to think (again) after being brainwashed by school, media, science and organised religion.

When I first read the Bible (if I remember correctly in 1999), I was surprised that many of the things "Jesus Christ" preached are still actual.
Almost 2000 years ago, "Jesus Christ" was already trying to "cure" people from being brainwashed by the slavedrivers.
It's funny you said this, I homeschooled our 5 children, what I taught them is how to learn for themselves.  Many people have talked about how amazed they are at how much our kids know.  Man has a natural thirst for knowledge, one that our society tends to quench.

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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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