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So lately the pain I have had 24/7 for nearing 9 years now has gotten worse. As I sit to pray and focus on the things that are on my heart, the pain invades my thoughts and those that I intended to pray for are pushed aside because I can't get the pain out of my head and heart. With other things, I can always walk away, even if for a short season, but the pain is relentless and it is becoming impossible to ignore even when I purpose to put my mind on other things. In the past when I prayed for healing I assured God I would endure anything He asked of me as long as I knew it was part of His plan. Well, this week He revealed to me a part of His plan when it comes to the pain, that of learning how to pray in weakness...not when we are weak, or how to allow Him to be strong in my weakness, but what prayer of weakness looks like, not just when something tragic happens but beyond that. So (saying it this way to try to end some nonsense before it starts....what have you learned about praying in weakness?

Quote from: Lori Bolinger on December 21, 2020, 09:45:26 am

So lately the pain I have had 24/7 for nearing 9 years now has gotten worse. As I sit to pray and focus on the things that are on my heart, the pain invades my thoughts and those that I intended to pray for are pushed aside because I can't get the pain out of my head and heart. With other things, I can always walk away, even if for a short season, but the pain is relentless and it is becoming impossible to ignore even when I purpose to put my mind on other things. In the past when I prayed for healing I assured God I would endure anything He asked of me as long as I knew it was part of His plan. Well, this week He revealed to me a part of His plan when it comes to the pain, that of learning how to pray in weakness...not when we are weak, or how to allow Him to be strong in my weakness, but what prayer of weakness looks like, not just when something tragic happens but beyond that. So (saying it this way to try to end some nonsense before it starts....what have you learned about praying in weakness?

I know it well. My weakness was so great that I felt weak and helpless physically, mentally and spiritually. I was trying to recover from alcohol and drugs and I was in pain as well but the emotional/mental anguish was the lowest I have ever been.


I prayed as often as I thought to and that was every minute or so. I prayed for recovery and a way out with real joy for living and a purpose in my life. This and Theology Forums is where God put me and on YouTube as well I believe.


I have healed and recovered with medical help and I will have a lifelong disability to live with. Yet, at the very rock bottom and even on the way down which took decades to end, I always knew that Jesus Christ would stay with me and keep me faithful.


There were days and night and weeks and months when I felt abandoned and forsaken but there was always a small voice, the holy spirit calming me deep inside. I will pray for you sister, for the pain.

I think the primary thing that God is teaching me about the prayer of weakness is that He knows my heart even if my mind refuses to allow me to voice it....thanks for the prayer, we are praying for you as well.

So far here is what I have learned, I was really hoping someone would offer what God has taught them, but oh well...
1. we have to trust that the Spirit is interceding on our behalf with words we cannot say...
Romans 8:26-27...I think we often don't trust that which is why we feel a need to fill all the silences with our own words.
it is okay for there to be silence, or simply tears, not every moment of prayer needs to be filled with our words and thoughts, in fact, listening is an important skill.
humility is huge and even in constant pain, we can ask God to get us out of the way so that He can do what He wants to do.
we need to trust what He is doing even when we don't understand or can't speak what we want, it's all about Him, not us...not our desires.

Quote from: Lori Bolinger on December 28, 2020, 09:23:23 am

So far here is what I have learned, I was really hoping someone would offer what God has taught them, but oh well...
1. we have to trust that the Spirit is interceding on our behalf with words we cannot say...
Romans 8:26-27...I think we often don't trust that which is why we feel a need to fill all the silences with our own words.
it is okay for there to be silence, or simply tears, not every moment of prayer needs to be filled with our words and thoughts, in fact, listening is an important skill.
humility is huge and even in constant pain, we can ask God to get us out of the way so that He can do what He wants to do.
we need to trust what He is doing even when we don't understand or can't speak what we want, it's all about Him, not us...not our desires.

" I was really hoping someone would offer what God has taught them, but oh well..."



Blade

PJ did, but no one else did is that what you are posting this about, because I didn't specify that PJ was the only one?

Blade, I really don't know your point but my guess is that you are trying to accuse me of not being honest, so let me give you two bits of info that you might be ignoring.

1. PJ is always good about responding to posts...he excels at it and it is my error to not have pointed that out.
2. I posted the same thread in the tf and no one responded, this was a cut and paste from that thread since it was a list already typed out and I forgot to say NOT MANY or I was HOPING FOR MORE...

So to PJ, I apologize for not mentioning you by name...I'm guessing PJ will forgive me, the question is will you Blade forgive me for being a bit off tilter for the day I posted this?

always

Blade

Quote from: Bladerunner on December 29, 2020, 08:54:31 am

Quote from: Lori Bolinger on December 29, 2020, 07:52:42 am

Blade, I really don't know your point but my guess is that you are trying to accuse me of not being honest, so let me give you two bits of info that you might be ignoring.

1. PJ is always good about responding to posts...he excels at it and it is my error to not have pointed that out.
2. I posted the same thread in the tf and no one responded, this was a cut and paste from that thread since it was a list already typed out and I forgot to say NOT MANY or I was HOPING FOR MORE...

So to PJ, I apologize for not mentioning you by name...I'm guessing PJ will forgive me, the question is will you Blade forgive me for being a bit off tilter for the day I posted this?

always

Blade

always?  Isn't this the same kind of exaggeration you just tried to accuse me of?

your kidding,,,right???

Blade