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That is not what Revelation means, sorry you do not get it.
Do you have a better interpretation that can account for Paul being rejected?

These are seven Churches out of hundreds of churches in the area and beyond that were hand picked by Jesus Christ. Rem, the Gospel has already been preached to all the known world by this time.

Of course the Jews at that time rejected the Gospel of Jesus Christ simply because it was against the LAW. The Christians was not really persecuted in earnest by Rome until the 60's. Up until that time, The Jewish communities in each village, town, hamlet orchestrated the persecution of Christian and especially Paul for He was one of the leaders.

Jesus chose these seven Churches to highlight the problems that was and will be associated with the Christian Churches through the millennials.

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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If God is not a liar, nor the author of confusion, it is impossible that there could any more than one correct answer to any question one might pose about the scriptures.
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If God is not a liar, nor the author of confusion, it is impossible that there could any more than one correct answer to any question one might pose about the scriptures.
I agree.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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If there is only ONE God there can only be ONE interpretation that is correct, the key is all parties allowing the HS to interpret it for us, teaching us.  Which is why the early church would fast and pray (seek God) until they were of one accord.  Something that is mostly lost today.
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If there is only ONE God there can only be ONE interpretation that is correct, the key is all parties allowing the HS to interpret it for us, teaching us.
People "understand" things in different ways.
Some people find one thing more important, money e.g. , and others something else, e.g. fame...

In my opinion, as people are "different" they interpret things in different ways.
A lot of the sayings of Jesus in the New Testament have what I call a "poetic" value, just like some of the best music, so that different people can understand it in their own way.
A 5-year-old couldn't possibly understand religion as his parents could he?

That's besides that "words" aren't capable of describing the full truth.
If you take for example the description of a table, this can never become the table...

If you believe in a "Trinity", shouldn't you think that there would be 3 right interpretations?!?
Or am I trying to connect dots now that I shouldn't?
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If there is only ONE God there can only be ONE interpretation that is correct, the key is all parties allowing the HS to interpret it for us, teaching us.
People "understand" things in different ways.
Some people find one thing more important, money e.g. , and others something else, e.g. fame...

In my opinion, as people are "different" they interpret things in different ways.
A lot of the sayings of Jesus in the New Testament have what I call a "poetic" value, just like some of the best music, so that different people can understand it in their own way.
A 5-year-old couldn't possibly understand religion as his parents could he?

That's besides that "words" aren't capable of describing the full truth.
If you take for example the description of a table, this can never become the table...

If you believe in a "Trinity", shouldn't you think that there would be 3 right interpretations?!?
Or am I trying to connect dots now that I shouldn't?
Agreed. The Bible or actually any of the other false religions will always be open to interpretation, however, with the Holy Bible there is only one main message and one overall interpretation of the whole. For instance, I read the descriptions of creation and the sun, moon, stars and cosmos very literally, as they are meant to be understood.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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If there is only ONE God there can only be ONE interpretation that is correct, the key is all parties allowing the HS to interpret it for us, teaching us.
People "understand" things in different ways.
Some people find one thing more important, money e.g. , and others something else, e.g. fame...

In my opinion, as people are "different" they interpret things in different ways.
A lot of the sayings of Jesus in the New Testament have what I call a "poetic" value, just like some of the best music, so that different people can understand it in their own way.
A 5-year-old couldn't possibly understand religion as his parents could he?

That's besides that "words" aren't capable of describing the full truth.
If you take for example the description of a table, this can never become the table...

If you believe in a "Trinity", shouldn't you think that there would be 3 right interpretations?!?
Or am I trying to connect dots now that I shouldn't?
Agreed. The Bible or actually any of the other false religions will always be open to interpretation, however, with the Holy Bible there is only one main message and one overall interpretation of the whole. For instance, I read the descriptions of creation and the sun, moon, stars and cosmos very literally, as they are meant to be understood.

I'll have to agree with LORI. There is only one GOD and in:

John 1:1.."In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Read the Bible Literally, Historically and Grammatically and it will unfold in perfect order without having to add, delete, allegorize, symbolize verses to make them say what one needs them to say to fit their individual doctrines.

Besides, the Bible (KJV) will tell you what the symbols mean, etc. somewhere else in the Bible. This is I believe on purpose to create a study environment for those who truly want to learn about GOD.


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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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If there is only ONE God there can only be ONE interpretation that is correct, the key is all parties allowing the HS to interpret it for us, teaching us.
People "understand" things in different ways.
Some people find one thing more important, money e.g. , and others something else, e.g. fame...

In my opinion, as people are "different" they interpret things in different ways.
A lot of the sayings of Jesus in the New Testament have what I call a "poetic" value, just like some of the best music, so that different people can understand it in their own way.
A 5-year-old couldn't possibly understand religion as his parents could he?

That's besides that "words" aren't capable of describing the full truth.
If you take for example the description of a table, this can never become the table...

If you believe in a "Trinity", shouldn't you think that there would be 3 right interpretations?!?
Or am I trying to connect dots now that I shouldn't?
what it seems to me you are talking about is drawing from the word a truth that is relevant to the individual.  Of course this is true...but let's take the idea of money....One person who interprets it as we need more and more and more money is not interpreting the passage the same as the one who says we are to trust God for what He determines we need.  Which is right interpretation?  Where does scripture say that we need more and more and more money? 

Throughout the ages, men have used scripture to justify all kinds of evils.  For example, the KKK bases their beliefs on "scripture"...is that a correct interpretation?  When talking about interpretation, there can only be one valid understanding.  From the standpoint of what we can draw from a passage there can be many lessons.  For example the account of the Good Samaritan.  The man asks, who is my neighbor?  Now I may look at the account and see that the neighbor is even my enemy...you may look at the account and see that Love goes beyond a bandaid....both are right interpretations but different perspectives.  If however a third person interprets it as the religious leaders have a right to walk by someone in need, that is a wrong interpretation not just a different in perspective.

At least that is how I see it.
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If there is only ONE God there can only be ONE interpretation that is correct, the key is all parties allowing the HS to interpret it for us, teaching us.
People "understand" things in different ways.
Some people find one thing more important, money e.g. , and others something else, e.g. fame...

In my opinion, as people are "different" they interpret things in different ways.
A lot of the sayings of Jesus in the New Testament have what I call a "poetic" value, just like some of the best music, so that different people can understand it in their own way.
A 5-year-old couldn't possibly understand religion as his parents could he?

That's besides that "words" aren't capable of describing the full truth.
If you take for example the description of a table, this can never become the table...

If you believe in a "Trinity", shouldn't you think that there would be 3 right interpretations?!?
Or am I trying to connect dots now that I shouldn't?
what it seems to me you are talking about is drawing from the word a truth that is relevant to the individual.  Of course this is true...but let's take the idea of money....One person who interprets it as we need more and more and more money is not interpreting the passage the same as the one who says we are to trust God for what He determines we need.  Which is right interpretation?  Where does scripture say that we need more and more and more money? 

Throughout the ages, men have used scripture to justify all kinds of evils.  For example, the KKK bases their beliefs on "scripture"...is that a correct interpretation?  When talking about interpretation, there can only be one valid understanding.  From the standpoint of what we can draw from a passage there can be many lessons.  For example the account of the Good Samaritan.  The man asks, who is my neighbor?  Now I may look at the account and see that the neighbor is even my enemy...you may look at the account and see that Love goes beyond a bandaid....both are right interpretations but different perspectives.  If however a third person interprets it as the religious leaders have a right to walk by someone in need, that is a wrong interpretation not just a different in perspective.

At least that is how I see it.

Lori, you have real good instincts. I can only add there are the some 150 versions of the Holy Bible. These too can be considered interpretations of the WORD of GOD.

What better way for Satan to cast doubt in GOD than getting mankind to change God's WORD. Actually in Genesis 3:1, Satan tells EVE."Yea, hath God said". This my friends is casting doubt in GOD's WORD and...... EVE fell for it.   "Casting Doubt" is Satan's middle name.

For  example: * If you have a New American Standard Version, within one of the FRONT pages it is written.. "Brackets in the text are around words probably not in the original writings."*

But what are the text it is talking about. Well..Mark 16:9-20 the missing verses concerning the resurrection of Christ.; Mark 9:44,45; Mat 6:13...and this is a good one. "last part of the Lord's Prayer";john 7:53; John 8:11,etc., etc., etc.

The bottom line is that the NEWer version(s) of the Bible will have someones interpretation written in most all the pages. SO WHAT?   we are changing the words to make it easier to read and to be more modern day.         

Satan can certainly say today : "Yea, hath GOD said:"

So pay attention to the version you use. Is it really all of GOD's WORD or is it something else.

Wrong Interpretations "Casting Doubt" again!

Blade


Ref:  * Barry  Burton. Let's Weigh the Evidence




1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Which Bible Translation Should We Read?


There are so many different translations out in the world. Which one is the most accurate? It is OK to read several or should we be reading only one?

15 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7qSUSvPRPw&index=11&t=0s&list=WL

Nice mini-presentation. I also agree in some respects and have used a NKJV (thomas nelson center column reference giant print edition) with footnotes on variant readings, and love it. I gave that one to my Mom, may look into getting a kindle version :) - I agree on an eclectic approach on texts, and see the logic and wisdom of considering all text traditions and variants in any study of scripture. Im usually more of the Alexandrian school of liberal theosophists of course with a gnostic flair, but inclusive and diverse enough to enjoy all facets of a diamond and all colours of a rainbow.

I find it sillly that some die heard KJV-only adherents will villify other translations as 'new age bible versions', and end up worshipping a 'version' of scripture which becomes idolatry. Its a sad misfortune of misplaced value and ignorance IMO. - of course, my theology is not limited to the Bible, as all inspired or illumined writings are in the library of a student of universal wisdom, not limited to any one cult, tradition or school. You cant put 'God' in a box, but you can learn from the meaning and value of divine knowledge and wisdom in any religious or philosophical literature.


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The early church understood that with One God came One Spirit, thus One understanding.  So the question posed today is how many right interpretations are there to scripture.

Before we start let me clarify one thing, scripture also talks about what we call disputable matters which are the things not clear which is a different matter.

Interpretations of any text, doctrine, theory, concept or idea can vary. Religious writings are subject to both literal and figurative interpretation and may further differ according to the context in which they are being 'related'. At best, you may consider all logical, tenable, probable and possible 'interpretations' of a given text and translate such in the present time with all the knowledge, wisdom and discernment available, at any given moment. - there are teachings, concepts or practices in scripture that are outdated, obsolete today...or is translated to mean something different in modern times, so a belief such as 'biblical inerrancy' is shaky, since it is the spirit of truth that is guiding us into all truth, and that includes progressive revelation, new dispensations of light, new unfoldings of truth consonant with the time one lives in.

Light itself produces numberless reflections and appearances of colour, just like a diamond has many facets, yet it is made of the same universal light-substance, expressing in various shades, tones and forms. One can apply the basic 'metaphysics' here and figure out the rest :)



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The early church understood that with One God came One Spirit, thus One understanding.  So the question posed today is how many right interpretations are there to scripture.

Before we start let me clarify one thing, scripture also talks about what we call disputable matters which are the things not clear which is a different matter.

Interpretations of any text, doctrine, theory, concept or idea can vary. Religious writings are subject to both literal and figurative interpretation and may further differ according to the context in which they are being 'related'. At best, you may consider all logical, tenable, probable and possible 'interpretations' of a given text and translate such in the present time with all the knowledge, wisdom and discernment available, at any given moment. - there are teachings, concepts or practices in scripture that are outdated, obsolete today...or is translated to mean something different in modern times, so a belief such as 'biblical inerrancy' is shaky, since it is the spirit of truth that is guiding us into all truth, and that includes progressive revelation, new dispensations of light, new unfoldings of truth consonant with the time one lives in.

Light itself produces numberless reflections and appearances of colour, just like a diamond has many facets, yet it is made of the same universal light-substance, expressing in various shades, tones and forms. One can apply the basic 'metaphysics' here and figure out the rest :)



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freelight You said:"At best, you may consider all logical, tenable, probable and possible 'interpretations' of a given text and translate such in the present time with all the knowledge, wisdom and discernment available, at any given moment. - there are teachings, concepts or practices in scripture that are outdated, obsolete today...or is translated to mean something different in modern times,"


WOW,,,that is a mouth full and all of it BULL!  Outdated/obsolete.....What about the translated then  vs today.

No wonder 95% of the world's churches are in apostasy as the Bible prophesied in that outdated/obsolete/wrongly translated Word of GOD!

If anyone thinks GOD will forgive or agree with anyone who believes in the statements you just made;   I am pretty sure they will be wrong. They in reality probably really do not care if they are wrong. To throw GOD's  Sovereignty and the most revered possession of GOD (His WORD) to the wind because Mankind has simply out-grew them, Wellllllll, we all know what is coming and what is going to happen who would believe this false Gospel..... Need I say more...

SO SAD!

Blade




1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

 

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