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How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« on: April 11, 2020, 08:27:52 am »
I'm looking into the symbolism of the tabernacle/temple...how do you think the people knew what the cherubim looked like that they were to fashion so much of the tabernacle from? What does this tell us about the relationship between God and the cherubim?

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Re: How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2020, 08:35:18 am »
I'm looking into the symbolism of the tabernacle/temple...how do you think the people knew what the cherubim looked like that they were to fashion so much of the tabernacle from? What does this tell us about the relationship between God and the cherubim?

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Re: How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2020, 10:38:47 am »
Right, but the israelites that were building the tabernacle didn't have access to all of the internet drawings and depictions...the instructions given by God didn't even describe what they looked like, so how would they have known what they looked like?  Were cherubim common sightings in those days?  If so why the change to no sightings today?
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Re: How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2020, 11:07:55 am »
 They were spiritually aware people in touch with the Holy Spirit. Since cherbum et al are spirit beings, not corporeal, all physical descriptions are physical expressions of their spiritual attributes which may very well vary with each viewer.
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Re: How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2020, 11:27:43 am »
Yes-- the saw spiritual beings in the spiritual realm-- that is, in visions or dreams.

I will share a recent dream I had from a week or so ago... that I shared with a friend.  Cherubim?

I saw the strangest things I have ever seen.  They were winged birds that could hover like hummingbirds moving in any direction.
They were big—bigger than humans, but with human faces—like with big human heads where the bird head should have been.
I guess these were -angels?  -of a sort?  Harvesters?—As they had come for some of my family members- to take them away.
I don’t recall it all, but I wept at the thought of them taking my brothers and sisters—I think there were 4 of these creatures.
As the first two took away one each, I wept and said something about at least not all would be gone, and then I was told that there
would be multiple trips.
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Re: How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2020, 11:38:16 am »
Yes-- the saw spiritual beings in the spiritual realm-- that is, in visions or dreams.

I will share a recent dream I had from a week or so ago... that I shared with a friend.  Cherubim?

I saw the strangest things I have ever seen.  They were winged birds that could hover like hummingbirds moving in any direction.
They were big—bigger than humans, but with human faces—like with big human heads where the bird head should have been.
I guess these were -angels?  -of a sort?  Harvesters?—As they had come for some of my family members- to take them away.
I don’t recall it all, but I wept at the thought of them taking my brothers and sisters—I think there were 4 of these creatures.
As the first two took away one each, I wept and said something about at least not all would be gone, and then I was told that there
would be multiple trips.
Interesting, brother. How old are you Mr E? I think I posted in one of your other threads a few days ago, but alas, you never see my posts. I'm just "ribbing" ya.
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Re: How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2020, 12:05:25 pm »
There are several peculiarities of this site that I'm having trouble navigating.  Not meant as a criticism- just my observations and personal challenges.

When you click on a person's name, instead of it bringing up any kind of profile, it brings up an IP address and such.  There is no way (that I've discovered) for example for me to see all the posts you've posted lately.  I'd have to notice the thread to respond to it and I don't seem to know how to navigate content to discover this.  One of the features I like on the other site is the notification system that flags when anyone has responded to any thread you've posted in or otherwise quoted something you've said.  Are any of these features available here?  Are they here and I'm missing them?  Profiles? Notifications?

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Re: How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2020, 07:14:53 pm »
Yes-- the saw spiritual beings in the spiritual realm-- that is, in visions or dreams.

I will share a recent dream I had from a week or so ago... that I shared with a friend.  Cherubim?

I saw the strangest things I have ever seen.  They were winged birds that could hover like hummingbirds moving in any direction.
They were big—bigger than humans, but with human faces—like with big human heads where the bird head should have been.
I guess these were -angels?  -of a sort?  Harvesters?—As they had come for some of my family members- to take them away.
I don’t recall it all, but I wept at the thought of them taking my brothers and sisters—I think there were 4 of these creatures.
As the first two took away one each, I wept and said something about at least not all would be gone, and then I was told that there
would be multiple trips.
Interesting, brother. How old are you Mr E? I think I posted in one of your other threads a few days ago, but alas, you never see my posts. I'm just "ribbing" ya.

I think maybe these were demons of Satan.....instead of Cherubs..... which are higher angels of authority. Lucifer was as Cherub as seen Ezk 28:12-19

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Re: How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2020, 08:19:06 am »
Blade sort of made the point I was going to make but somehow this morning I can't find some of the buttons for reply.

So the question is this...if it was all through vision, how did they all have the same vision that Joe down the road didn't come along and say, "nope, in my dream, the cherubim looked like this..." and Sally walked into the tabernacle and said, "nope you got it wrong, God told me in a dream that they looked like this..." etc.

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Re: How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2020, 09:04:40 am »
There are several peculiarities of this site that I'm having trouble navigating.  Not meant as a criticism- just my observations and personal challenges.

When you click on a person's name, instead of it bringing up any kind of profile, it brings up an IP address and such.  There is no way (that I've discovered) for example for me to see all the posts you've posted lately.  I'd have to notice the thread to respond to it and I don't seem to know how to navigate content to discover this.  One of the features I like on the other site is the notification system that flags when anyone has responded to any thread you've posted in or otherwise quoted something you've said.  Are any of these features available here?  Are they here and I'm missing them?  Profiles? Notifications?

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Re: How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2020, 11:21:46 am »
Blade sort of made the point I was going to make but somehow this morning I can't find some of the buttons for reply.

So the question is this...if it was all through vision, how did they all have the same vision that Joe down the road didn't come along and say, "nope, in my dream, the cherubim looked like this..." and Sally walked into the tabernacle and said, "nope you got it wrong, God told me in a dream that they looked like this..." etc.

Because God gave the dreams.  And God isn't at all confused regarding what cherubim might look like. So... if God were to allow you to make a copy, He would give you the understanding required to do so.

OR... you could ask dakk, but he might say---

https://youtu.be/SSVDZ0MySk8
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Re: How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2020, 07:09:46 pm »
Blade sort of made the point I was going to make but somehow this morning I can't find some of the buttons for reply.

So the question is this...if it was all through vision, how did they all have the same vision that Joe down the road didn't come along and say, "nope, in my dream, the cherubim looked like this..." and Sally walked into the tabernacle and said, "nope you got it wrong, God told me in a dream that they looked like this..." etc.

Because God gave the dreams.  And God isn't at all confused regarding what cherubim might look like. So... if God were to allow you to make a copy, He would give you the understanding required to do so.

OR... you could ask dakk, but he might say---

https://youtu.be/SSVDZ0MySk8
I was using GOD's authority to describe the a cherub..only He knows exactly what they look like. As in:
Gen 3:24.."So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims1, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life."

Satan was a cherub2and was probably over the cherubim like Michael was over the Lord's army of angels as an archangel.

Blade



1. Oh, excuse the one of the 200 errors of the KJV...Cherubim is already plural. It did not need the "s".
2. Eze 28:14.."Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."
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Re: How did they know what a cherubim looked like?
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2020, 07:18:28 am »
My point was that someone had to have a definitive picture in order for there to be no debate over it.  Look how much debate there is over the very fact that the people crafted cherubim for the tabernacle, some in fabric, some in gold....how did they know which version or vision to use?  Did the people of that day see cherubim?  did they ask Moses to draw it and hope that he was an artist?  was it a miracle that God just came down and gave them all the same identical vision so that there was no one that disagreed with the vision, believers and non believers alike?  How did they know what the cherubim looked like so that the images in the curtains was identical to the images in the gold?

 

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