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How and what do we use to purchase refined gold from God?
« on: April 09, 2020, 09:44:52 am »
I am currently studying the symbolism of gold.  I came across this passage quoted in HCSB because it's open.



Revelation 3:14-22

14 “Write to the angel of the church in Laodicea:



“The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Originator[h] of God’s creation says: 15 I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish that you were cold or hot. 16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I am going to vomit you out of My mouth. 17 Because you say, ‘I’m rich; I have become wealthy and need nothing,’ and you don’t know that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked, 18 I advise you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire so that you may be rich, white clothes so that you may be dressed and your shameful nakedness not be exposed, and ointment to spread on your eyes so that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and discipline. So be committed[j] and repent. 20 Listen! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and have dinner with him, and he with Me. 21 The victor: I will give him the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I also won the victory and sat down with My Father on His throne.



22 “Anyone who has an ear should listen to what the Spirit says to the churches.”



I included context so we know what we are talking about...so what or how can we buy this refined gold?

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Buy must be a metaphor for giving your all...
Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil


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I am currently studying the symbolism of gold.  I came across this passage quoted in HCSB because it's open.



Revelation 3:14-22

14 “Write to the angel of the church in Laodicea:



“The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Originator[h] of God’s creation says: 15 I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish that you were cold or hot. 16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I am going to vomit you out of My mouth. 17 Because you say, ‘I’m rich; I have become wealthy and need nothing,’ and you don’t know that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked, 18 I advise you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire so that you may be rich, white clothes so that you may be dressed and your shameful nakedness not be exposed, and ointment to spread on your eyes so that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and discipline. So be committed[j] and repent. 20 Listen! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and have dinner with him, and he with Me. 21 The victor: I will give him the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I also won the victory and sat down with My Father on His throne.



22 “Anyone who has an ear should listen to what the Spirit says to the churches.”



I included context so we know what we are talking about...so what or how can we buy this refined gold?
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I am currently studying the symbolism of gold.  I came across this passage quoted in HCSB because it's open.



Revelation 3:14-22

14 “Write to the angel of the church in Laodicea:



“The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Originator[h] of God’s creation says: 15 I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish that you were cold or hot. 16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I am going to vomit you out of My mouth. 17 Because you say, ‘I’m rich; I have become wealthy and need nothing,’ and you don’t know that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked, 18 I advise you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire so that you may be rich, white clothes so that you may be dressed and your shameful nakedness not be exposed, and ointment to spread on your eyes so that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and discipline. So be committed[j] and repent. 20 Listen! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and have dinner with him, and he with Me. 21 The victor: I will give him the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I also won the victory and sat down with My Father on His throne.



22 “Anyone who has an ear should listen to what the Spirit says to the churches.”



I included context so we know what we are talking about...so what or how can we buy this refined gold?

It's interesting isn't it?

Makes you wonder about the spiritual economy when in the parables it speaks of things like the shrewd manager, the landowner, the farmer, and so on...

It's safe to assume you understand he isn't talking about real gold, which Ezekiel says like silver would be as common (valuable) as refuse in the streets.  To understand the meaning you have to look at the concept and conceptually gold is what our minds would relate to a thing of great or highest value, but it is more than that. Ezekiel 7:14

What you are referring to was written to an angel first of all so it's clearly regarding the spiritual sense which is greater than the physical sense (which would be worthless in the spiritual realm which is not physical).  The simplest way of understanding the value of something is by way of comparison. The reference from the book of revelation doesn't just advise the angel to buy gold, but to buy gold refined in the fire.  He's telling him to focus on things that will last when tested.  Things that will be made pure by the fire, and not the things that are perishable, or that will be consumed by testing.

1 Corinthians 3:12-14 “Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare is, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.”

To the angel responsible for spreading the seed (the Word) to a certain field it's pointed out- you think you are rich.  You think you are wealthy.  Again-- it isn't speaking of physical riches or physical wealth, but spiritual.  What is spiritual wealth?  It is knowledge.  The foundation that was laid was the knowledge that was given and the angel was tasked with taking what was given him and making something more of it (as in the parable of the talents) so that when the time of testing (judgement / fire) there will be something of value left.

'You don't know that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked --- because you think you are rich!  You think you know it all and have it all figured out and these are the things you teach others, but you are building with fluff.  With leaven, and it's worthless.  It won't last.  It won't endure when the testing comes. So acquire what will last... clothe your nakedness with the white cloth (purified, washed) of righteous acts, and get your eyes fixed because you haven't been seeing properly.

But why say all these things to an angel? 
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I am currently studying the symbolism of gold.  I came across this passage quoted in HCSB because it's open.



Revelation 3:14-22

14 “Write to the angel of the church in Laodicea:



“The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Originator[h] of God’s creation says: 15 I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish that you were cold or hot. 16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I am going to vomit you out of My mouth. 17 Because you say, ‘I’m rich; I have become wealthy and need nothing,’ and you don’t know that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked, 18 I advise you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire so that you may be rich, white clothes so that you may be dressed and your shameful nakedness not be exposed, and ointment to spread on your eyes so that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and discipline. So be committed[j] and repent. 20 Listen! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and have dinner with him, and he with Me. 21 The victor: I will give him the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I also won the victory and sat down with My Father on His throne.



22 “Anyone who has an ear should listen to what the Spirit says to the churches.”



I included context so we know what we are talking about...so what or how can we buy this refined gold?

It's interesting isn't it?

Makes you wonder about the spiritual economy when in the parables it speaks of things like the shrewd manager, the landowner, the farmer, and so on...

It's safe to assume you understand he isn't talking about real gold, which Ezekiel says like silver would be as common (valuable) as refuse in the streets.  To understand the meaning you have to look at the concept and conceptually gold is what our minds would relate to a thing of great or highest value, but it is more than that. Ezekiel 7:14

What you are referring to was written to an angel first of all so it's clearly regarding the spiritual sense which is greater than the physical sense (which would be worthless in the spiritual realm which is not physical).  The simplest way of understanding the value of something is by way of comparison. The reference from the book of revelation doesn't just advise the angel to buy gold, but to buy gold refined in the fire.  He's telling him to focus on things that will last when tested.  Things that will be made pure by the fire, and not the things that are perishable, or that will be consumed by testing.

1 Corinthians 3:12-14 “Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare is, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.”

To the angel responsible for spreading the seed (the Word) to a certain field it's pointed out- you think you are rich.  You think you are wealthy.  Again-- it isn't speaking of physical riches or physical wealth, but spiritual.  What is spiritual wealth?  It is knowledge.  The foundation that was laid was the knowledge that was given and the angel was tasked with taking what was given him and making something more of it (as in the parable of the talents) so that when the time of testing (judgement / fire) there will be something of value left.

'You don't know that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked --- because you think you are rich!  You think you know it all and have it all figured out and these are the things you teach others, but you are building with fluff.  With leaven, and it's worthless.  It won't last.  It won't endure when the testing comes. So acquire what will last... clothe your nakedness with the white cloth (purified, washed) of righteous acts, and get your eyes fixed because you haven't been seeing properly.

But why say all these things to an angel?
I actually thought about a lot of what you stated there Mr E, before I typed simply "Obedience". Purified by fire. Why tell an angel these things? Perhaps to be recorded and set in holy scripture.
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To be purified... refined... tested.

Do you know what nephrology is?

I wonder where that "neph" part comes from?  Why would these things be said to an angel?

Therefore remember from where you have fallen, and repent and do the deeds you did at first; or else I am coming to you and will remove your lampstand out of its place–unless you repent.

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I am currently studying the symbolism of gold.  I came across this passage quoted in HCSB because it's open.



Revelation 3:14-22

14 “Write to the angel of the church in Laodicea:



“The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Originator[h] of God’s creation says: 15 I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish that you were cold or hot. 16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I am going to vomit you out of My mouth. 17 Because you say, ‘I’m rich; I have become wealthy and need nothing,’ and you don’t know that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked, 18 I advise you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire so that you may be rich, white clothes so that you may be dressed and your shameful nakedness not be exposed, and ointment to spread on your eyes so that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and discipline. So be committed[j] and repent. 20 Listen! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and have dinner with him, and he with Me. 21 The victor: I will give him the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I also won the victory and sat down with My Father on His throne.



22 “Anyone who has an ear should listen to what the Spirit says to the churches.”



I included context so we know what we are talking about...so what or how can we buy this refined gold?

It's interesting isn't it?

Makes you wonder about the spiritual economy when in the parables it speaks of things like the shrewd manager, the landowner, the farmer, and so on...

It's safe to assume you understand he isn't talking about real gold, which Ezekiel says like silver would be as common (valuable) as refuse in the streets.  To understand the meaning you have to look at the concept and conceptually gold is what our minds would relate to a thing of great or highest value, but it is more than that. Ezekiel 7:14

What you are referring to was written to an angel first of all so it's clearly regarding the spiritual sense which is greater than the physical sense (which would be worthless in the spiritual realm which is not physical).  The simplest way of understanding the value of something is by way of comparison. The reference from the book of revelation doesn't just advise the angel to buy gold, but to buy gold refined in the fire.  He's telling him to focus on things that will last when tested.  Things that will be made pure by the fire, and not the things that are perishable, or that will be consumed by testing.

1 Corinthians 3:12-14 “Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare is, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.”

To the angel responsible for spreading the seed (the Word) to a certain field it's pointed out- you think you are rich.  You think you are wealthy.  Again-- it isn't speaking of physical riches or physical wealth, but spiritual.  What is spiritual wealth?  It is knowledge.  The foundation that was laid was the knowledge that was given and the angel was tasked with taking what was given him and making something more of it (as in the parable of the talents) so that when the time of testing (judgement / fire) there will be something of value left.

'You don't know that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked --- because you think you are rich!  You think you know it all and have it all figured out and these are the things you teach others, but you are building with fluff.  With leaven, and it's worthless.  It won't last.  It won't endure when the testing comes. So acquire what will last... clothe your nakedness with the white cloth (purified, washed) of righteous acts, and get your eyes fixed because you haven't been seeing properly.

But why say all these things to an angel?
I also found Job 22:25 interesting....equating God to our gold, iow's putting God as of the most valuable things this earth can afford.

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Here in Job it relates also to knowledge-- trading your gold, for His.
The His Word becomes your silver and gold.

“Please receive instruction from His mouth
And establish His words in your heart.
 23 “If you return to the Almighty, you will be restored;
If you remove unrighteousness far from your tent,
 24 And place your gold in the dust,
And the gold of Ophir among the stones of the brooks,
 25 Then the Almighty will be your gold
And choice silver to you.
 26 “For then you will delight in the Almighty
And lift up your face to God.
 27 “You will pray to Him, and He will hear you;
And you will pay your vows.
 28 “You will also decree a thing, and it will be established for you;
And light will shine on your ways.
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