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Healing in the atonement
« on: June 09, 2019, 07:06:19 am »
Matt.8:16.
And when the even was come they brought unto Him many that were possessed with devils and He cast out the spirits with His word and healed all that were sick.
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet saying "Himself took our infirmities and bare our sicknesses"



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Re: Healing in the atonement
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2019, 05:07:22 am »
Matt.8:16.
And when the even was come they brought unto Him many that were possessed with devils and He cast out the spirits with His word and healed all that were sick.
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet saying "Himself took our infirmities and bare our sicknesses"
Unpack that Billy.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins, the gospel of our salvation, and repenting, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: Healing in the atonement
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2019, 03:40:43 pm »
Matt.8:16.
And when the even was come they brought unto Him many that were possessed with devils and He cast out the spirits with His word and healed all that were sick.
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet saying "Himself took our infirmities and bare our sicknesses"
Unpack that Billy.

Please allow me?

Mat 8:16.."When the even (Evening) was come, they brought unto him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sick:"
(emphasis have been added)

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Healing in the atonement
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2019, 03:54:07 pm »
Hi Blade

My emphasis was on "that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias Himself took our infirmities and bare our diseases"

The question must be when did He take our infirmities and bare our diseases?

We understand that the passage in Isaiah relates to the cross, He bore the sins of many but here He took our infirmities and bare our diseases.

Therefore healing is a provision of the cross.
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Re: Healing in the atonement
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2019, 11:28:05 am »
Hi Blade

My emphasis was on "that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias Himself took our infirmities and bare our diseases"

The question must be when did He take our infirmities and bare our diseases?

We understand that the passage in Isaiah relates to the cross, He bore the sins of many but here He took our infirmities and bare our diseases.

Therefore healing is a provision of the cross.
Good post.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins, the gospel of our salvation, and repenting, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: Healing in the atonement
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2019, 08:10:11 pm »
I am a great fan of the Reformation, what streams of light have flowed upon the hearts and minds of Christian men and women, what blessings, what insights into God's grace.

The old mysticism and superstitions are gone, fled away like cockcroaches before the light.

How simply the new day dawned, one scripture that struck home to Luther's heart like it had been the sun coming out on a cloudy day "the just shall live by faith"

Here he had been climbing up some stone steps on his knees as a penance, desperate for God to bless him. "the just shall live by faith"

It had always been in the bible.

There's plenty of stuff in the bible,  we haven't barely scratched the surface.

Suppose God had said "the sick shall be healed by faith?"

Faith in what? faith in God's word, that's how we got saved wasn't it. We heard that Jesus had borne our sins in His own body on the tree, we heard about being born again, filled with the Holy Spirit. And we saw that these things were written in scripture.

We can only have faith by hearing God say a thing, maybe not audibly but if we understand from the scripture that God has said a thing then we can have faith that this is God's will for us.

God's will and God's word are the same, if you want to know God's will concerning a matter read His word.

Look at Jesus, He came down not to do His own will but to do the will of the Father.

What did He do? Did He pardon sins? that's God's will, did He turn anyone away?
did he heal any who were sick? that's God's will … did He tell anyone to go and bear their sickness for God's glory?

For this purpose was the Son of God made manifest that He might destroy the works of the devil. And He healed them all.
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Re: Healing in the atonement
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2019, 08:37:27 pm »
I am a great fan of the Reformation, what streams of light have flowed upon the hearts and minds of Christian men and women, what blessings, what insights into God's grace.

The old mysticism and superstitions are gone, fled away like cockcroaches before the light.

How simply the new day dawned, one scripture that struck home to Luther's heart like it had been the sun coming out on a cloudy day "the just shall live by faith"

Here he had been climbing up some stone steps on his knees as a penance, desperate for God to bless him. "the just shall live by faith"

It had always been in the bible.

There's plenty of stuff in the bible,  we haven't barely scratched the surface.

Suppose God had said "the sick shall be healed by faith?"

Faith in what? faith in God's word, that's how we got saved wasn't it. We heard that Jesus had borne our sins in His own body on the tree, we heard about being born again, filled with the Holy Spirit. And we saw that these things were written in scripture.

We can only have faith by hearing God say a thing, maybe not audibly but if we understand from the scripture that God has said a thing then we can have faith that this is God's will for us.

God's will and God's word are the same, if you want to know God's will concerning a matter read His word.

Look at Jesus, He came down not to do His own will but to do the will of the Father.

What did He do? Did He pardon sins? that's God's will, did He turn anyone away?
did he heal any who were sick? that's God's will did He tell anyone to go and bear their sickness for God's glory?

For this purpose was the Son of God made manifest that He might destroy the works of the devil. And He healed them all.

There have been many of people who have been healed through the WORD of GOD.   Glory to Jesus Christ

Blade

1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Healing in the atonement
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2019, 05:19:33 am »
I am a great fan of the Reformation, what streams of light have flowed upon the hearts and minds of Christian men and women, what blessings, what insights into God's grace.

The old mysticism and superstitions are gone, fled away like cockcroaches before the light.

How simply the new day dawned, one scripture that struck home to Luther's heart like it had been the sun coming out on a cloudy day "the just shall live by faith"

Here he had been climbing up some stone steps on his knees as a penance, desperate for God to bless him. "the just shall live by faith"

It had always been in the bible.

There's plenty of stuff in the bible,  we haven't barely scratched the surface.

Suppose God had said "the sick shall be healed by faith?"

Faith in what? faith in God's word, that's how we got saved wasn't it. We heard that Jesus had borne our sins in His own body on the tree, we heard about being born again, filled with the Holy Spirit. And we saw that these things were written in scripture.

We can only have faith by hearing God say a thing, maybe not audibly but if we understand from the scripture that God has said a thing then we can have faith that this is God's will for us.

God's will and God's word are the same, if you want to know God's will concerning a matter read His word.

Look at Jesus, He came down not to do His own will but to do the will of the Father.

What did He do? Did He pardon sins? that's God's will, did He turn anyone away?
did he heal any who were sick? that's God's will did He tell anyone to go and bear their sickness for God's glory?

For this purpose was the Son of God made manifest that He might destroy the works of the devil. And He healed them all.

There have been many of people who have been healed through the WORD of GOD.   Glory to Jesus Christ

Blade

as soon as you say many have been healed you throw up all kinds of questions, yes glory to Jesus, healings in the bible always brought glory to God, nobody thought having leprosy was a blessing.

You could say many have been saved through the WORD of GOD

Who were saved through the WORD of GOD? the answer is as many as came to Him for salvation, as many as did receive Him to them gave He power to become the sons of God. He turned nobody away.

Suppose He had turned some away it's unthinkable isn't it, that anyone who would listen carefully to the gospel and who would truly want to be saved and who would come to Jesus to be saved would be turned away. No evangelical of whatever shade or stripe they are can bear such a proposal.

Who were healed through the WORD of God? the answer is the same, as many as came to Him for healing, He turned nobody away.

You have to be SURE that God wants to save you, hearing or reading God's word will bring that assurance
You have to be SURE that God wants to heal you, hearing or reading God's word should bring you that assurance.

God's will and God's word are the same "Lord if Thou wilt Thou canst make me clean I will, be thou clean"

That is God's will.
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Re: Healing in the atonement
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