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You know God has certain titles in the bible, The Lord our Righteousness, the Lord our Healer, The Lord our Provider, the Lord our Deliverer, the Lord our Shepherd etc, as evangelicals we make much of the Lord our Righteousness and so we should but we don't say so much about the rest of it.

Has God then provided for you? taken care of you? gotten you out of scrapes? helped you out? then let the redeemed of the Lord say so.

God is good, His will for us is good.

Every gift and blessing that God gives us has a health warning on it.

I was once invited home to tea with a bunch of Plymouth Brethren of the more exclusive sort, rather like the American Amish, you know if they invite you to tea it is a sign of acceptance. They wanted to hear what I had to say about the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

And talking about gifts one brother said "ah I think if God used me in such a way I would be afraid I might become proud"

Well ... you know folks get proud even without gifts, say of healing or prophecy, in my view the whole idea of ministry without the unction of the Holy Ghost IS proud . People rely on their ability to tell a good story, make a telling point, just putting a sermon together.

When they have preached do they feel rather proud of themselves? if they pray well publicly, do they feel just a little bit smug? The pride is already there, the pride is there when we do a small thing, if we ever get to do a great thing the pride will grow in measure.

Isn't best to deal with the pride? take the problem head on, instead of covering it up by not taking responsibility, making it an excuse for holding back.

Prosperity certainly brings with it temptations, isn't better to deal with those issues of the heart that cause the temptation? They will be there now, just they are covered up by the fact that we are unable to indulge them.

Holiness and prosperity go together … I'm talking about GODLY PROSPERITY, I am not speaking about robbing banks or playing fast and loose in business.

When God prospers it is an expansion of YOU, what you are, what you believe. It enlarges your field, your influence. I mean as a church fellowship as well as individually.

People will want to talk about Jesus and about Paul and that is another debate to be had. As a rider to that I would say two things. Both Jesus and Paul knew how to abound as well as suffer want. And also in both Jesus and Paul it can be said they became poor to make others rich.