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Re: Can we Love without being saved first?
« on: May 27, 2019, 07:13:48 pm »
Many people take the stand that people can love without God...that is to say that they can show kindness, grace, mercy, etc. without God.
Others take the stand that Love, real Love is from God and we can only Love with His power.i

In light of I Cor. 13 especially the highlighted portion I would have to say that we cannot really Love without God but there is more to the discussion than that, for Love has a goal and that goal is reconciliation first to God and then to one another....the unsaved person cannot share this goal for the unsaved do not care if we are reconciled with God or not. What are you alls thoughts?

I Corinthians 13:
1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
I'm unsure about love. I only know the love of my family now and probably ever. I have had close friends and several truly love me but it's not as though I'd notice. I know what love is because I have watched my mom and my dad with my half brother Aaron. I knew and saw and shared in the love of my grandparents, aunts uncles and cousins. These are the only people I deeply trust and for good reason.

I have prayed a lot to God to help me to love more and to show my love and compassion. It seems I have more compassion and love for strangers than my own family sometimes by my behavior. I really do love people, strangers and those I know and worked with. The problem with this world is you don't get the love back that you put in. That hurts my feelings or it USED TO. I don't think of return now.

I have never really been in love with a woman in the true sense. I know what love is in my mind but I never found it in a woman. So, my life is not the typical life of a 50 year old man. I am CONTENT though now and I'm not yearning or searching like in my younger years.

I also find it difficult to LOVE God and Jesus because all I can do is read about them and go by my "feelings" and thoughts. How do you love someone you've never met? Blessed are those who believe without seeing . . . But how do we LOVE without seeing and meeting Him?
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