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« Reply #130 on: February 12, 2021, 01:13:54 pm »
Borrowed from another site with permission.  I thought it was interesting.

The healing that occurs in today’s gospel might not be very significant to us or we may just think of it as another miracle that the Lord performed. The method Jesus used to hill this man is still practiced, the Ephphata Rite is a part of the Sacrament of Baptism when the priest symbolically opens the ears and mouth of the person to be baptized to mark the opening of the mind and the heart of the person to receive God into them.

Throughout history disobedience and sin have corrupted us and cloud our judgments, our minds, and hearts. The Lord as He healed the deaf man showed that not only that He could heal us from our physical infirmities but in fact also from our spiritual problems and the root of all evil and suffering.  God alone can heal us and forgive us our sins.

Now, as Christians what is our attitude towards the Lord? Is it one of willingness to listen to Him and to welcome Him into our hearts and our minds? Or do we place our desires, our pride, ambition, and ego above our love for the Lord? Let us not repeat the mistakes made by our predecessors, all those who have chosen to follow the Lord and His path?

Let us all turn towards the Lord with a new heart and with a new faith, and let us all appreciate all that He has done for us, welcoming Him into our midst and allowing Him to touch our lives, to heal us, and to make us whole once again, purging from within us all traces of stubbornness and faithlessness. May God bless us all, and be with us always. Amen.
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« Reply #131 on: February 12, 2021, 07:03:25 pm »
Borrowed from another site with permission.  I thought it was interesting.

The healing that occurs in today’s gospel might not be very significant to us or we may just think of it as another miracle that the Lord performed. The method Jesus used to hill this man is still practiced, the Ephphata Rite is a part of the Sacrament of Baptism when the priest symbolically opens the ears and mouth of the person to be baptized to mark the opening of the mind and the heart of the person to receive God into them.

Throughout history disobedience and sin have corrupted us and cloud our judgments, our minds, and hearts. The Lord as He healed the deaf man showed that not only that He could heal us from our physical infirmities but in fact also from our spiritual problems and the root of all evil and suffering.  God alone can heal us and forgive us our sins.

Now, as Christians what is our attitude towards the Lord? Is it one of willingness to listen to Him and to welcome Him into our hearts and our minds? Or do we place our desires, our pride, ambition, and ego above our love for the Lord? Let us not repeat the mistakes made by our predecessors, all those who have chosen to follow the Lord and His path?

Let us all turn towards the Lord with a new heart and with a new faith, and let us all appreciate all that He has done for us, welcoming Him into our midst and allowing Him to touch our lives, to heal us, and to make us whole once again, purging from within us all traces of stubbornness and faithlessness. May God bless us all, and be with us always. Amen.

not got no argument with YOUR points...

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« Reply #132 on: February 14, 2021, 09:16:23 pm »
A leper approached Jesus with a request, kneeling down as he addressed him. 'If you will to do so, you can cure me.' Moved with pity, Jesus stretched out his hand, touched him and said: 'I do will it.  Be cured.'" 
Who are the outcasts of our society?  Are the outcasts people with AIDS or other terrible illnesses?  Are the outcasts the poor of the third world?  Are the outcasts the immigrants?  Are there outcasts in your family or my family?  Is the outcast a  son or daughter, brother or sister, or cousin who has embarrassed the family by getting involved with illegal activities or living an immoral lifestyle? 
Are we willing to reach out to them? Are we willing to touch the outcast, or are we afraid that we might become unclean? Perhaps, if we resume friendship with that difficult cousin, the rest of our family will have nothing to do with us. Or if we make friends with that person in the office or neighborhood labeled by others as unworthy of anyone’s attention, we also will be rejected.  Unclean! 
Or if we become advocates for migrants who work hard to send money to their impoverished families, then we will be accused of being aligned with the few bad among them who have done horrible things, some will say to those who reach out to the immigrants, “Unclean!”
The message of our gospel, is that we can reach out to those who are suffering and touch them with the healing power of Jesus Christ.  Yes, by doing this we may open ourselves up to insult and attack from those around us.  But we have been empowered with the healing touch of Jesus Christ.  And that healing touch can conquer the pain around us.
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« Reply #133 on: February 15, 2021, 01:50:47 pm »
A leper approached Jesus with a request, kneeling down as he addressed him. 'If you will to do so, you can cure me.' Moved with pity, Jesus stretched out his hand, touched him and said: 'I do will it.  Be cured.'" 
Who are the outcasts of our society?  Are the outcasts people with AIDS or other terrible illnesses?  Are the outcasts the poor of the third world?  Are the outcasts the immigrants?  Are there outcasts in your family or my family?  Is the outcast a  son or daughter, brother or sister, or cousin who has embarrassed the family by getting involved with illegal activities or living an immoral lifestyle? 
Are we willing to reach out to them? Are we willing to touch the outcast, or are we afraid that we might become unclean? Perhaps, if we resume friendship with that difficult cousin, the rest of our family will have nothing to do with us. Or if we make friends with that person in the office or neighborhood labeled by others as unworthy of anyone’s attention, we also will be rejected.  Unclean! 
Or if we become advocates for migrants who work hard to send money to their impoverished families, then we will be accused of being aligned with the few bad among them who have done horrible things, some will say to those who reach out to the immigrants, “Unclean!”
The message of our gospel, is that we can reach out to those who are suffering and touch them with the healing power of Jesus Christ.  Yes, by doing this we may open ourselves up to insult and attack from those around us.  But we have been empowered with the healing touch of Jesus Christ.  And that healing touch can conquer the pain around us.


good post Mark.....Its called" going along to get along"

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« Reply #134 on: February 17, 2021, 08:15:31 pm »
The longest trip that we can take daily is the distance that we should travel from the statement I am right you are wrong to the statement that sometimes needs to be made of I am sorry I see that you were right all along and I was wrong. This is the hardest trip to make and most of us choose never to go down that road.
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« Reply #135 on: March 05, 2021, 07:42:57 am »
A leper approached Jesus with a request, kneeling down as he addressed him. 'If you will to do so, you can cure me.' Moved with pity, Jesus stretched out his hand, touched him and said: 'I do will it.  Be cured.'" 
Who are the outcasts of our society?  Are the outcasts people with AIDS or other terrible illnesses?  Are the outcasts the poor of the third world?  Are the outcasts the immigrants?  Are there outcasts in your family or my family?  Is the outcast a  son or daughter, brother or sister, or cousin who has embarrassed the family by getting involved with illegal activities or living an immoral lifestyle? 
Are we willing to reach out to them? Are we willing to touch the outcast, or are we afraid that we might become unclean? Perhaps, if we resume friendship with that difficult cousin, the rest of our family will have nothing to do with us. Or if we make friends with that person in the office or neighborhood labeled by others as unworthy of anyone’s attention, we also will be rejected.  Unclean! 
Or if we become advocates for migrants who work hard to send money to their impoverished families, then we will be accused of being aligned with the few bad among them who have done horrible things, some will say to those who reach out to the immigrants, “Unclean!”
The message of our gospel, is that we can reach out to those who are suffering and touch them with the healing power of Jesus Christ.  Yes, by doing this we may open ourselves up to insult and attack from those around us.  But we have been empowered with the healing touch of Jesus Christ.  And that healing touch can conquer the pain around us.
Excellent Mark.

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« Reply #136 on: March 05, 2021, 07:43:14 am »

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2021/march/conservative-umc-split-postponed-global-methodist-church.html








Conservative United Methodists Plan Breakaway Denomination





The new Global Methodist Church will leave the UMC regardless of the General Conference decision, which has been delayed until 2022.


Conservative United Methodists have chosen a name for the denomination they plan to form if a proposal to split the United Methodist Church is successful: The Global Methodist Church.

The Global Methodist Church unveiled its new name, logo, and website on Monday, days after the United Methodist Church announced it was once again postponing the May 2020 meeting that was set to consider the proposal to split.

That puts the likely launch of the planned denomination at least a year and a half away.

“Over the past year the council members, and hundreds of people who have informed their work, have faithfully and thoughtfully arrived at this point,” the Rev. Keith Boyette, president of the Wesleyan Covenant Association and chair of the Transitional Leadership Council that is guiding the creation of the Global Methodist Church, said in a post on the WCA website.

“They are happy to share with others a wealth of information about a church they believe will be steeped in the lifegiving confessions of the Christian faith.”

The United Methodist Church’s General Conference, its global decision-making body, is now scheduled to meet August 29 to September 6, 2022, at the Minneapolis Convention Center in Minneapolis.

Delegates are expected to take up a proposal to split the denomination called the Protocol of Reconciliation and Grace Through Separation.

The proposal negotiated by 16 United Methodist bishops and advocacy group leaders from across theological divides, would create a new conservative “traditionalist” Methodist denomination—that’s the Global Methodist Church—that would receive $25 million over the next four years. Individual churches and annual conferences could choose to join the new entity; otherwise, they’ll remain in the existing denomination by default.

Calls to split one of the largest denominations in the United States have grown since a 2019 special session of the General Conference approved the so-called Traditional Plan strengthening its bans on the ordination and marriage of LGBTQ United Methodists.

At the time of the 2019 special session, Boyette’s WCA made clear it planned to split from the United Methodist Church if delegates to the special session had not approved Traditional Plan.

On its website, the Global Methodist Church says it similarly would move forward with a split if delegates to the General Conference meeting in 2022 do not approve the proposed protocol — or if support for the protocol wanes in the intervening year and a half.

The website describes the planned denomination as a “new church rooted in Scripture and the historic and life giving teachings of the Christian faith” and emphasizes its desire to be a global church.

It also includes downloadable versions of a proposed Transitional Book of Doctrines and Discipline in multiple languages.

“True to our roots, we’re a patient and methodical people,” Boyette said on the WCA website.

“We want to do our very best to help theologically conservative local churches, laity, and pastors navigate the transitional period as smoothly as possible. And then we look forward to the Global Methodist Church’s convening General Conference where we hope the duly elected delegates will find what we have done to be helpful. It will be their great task and responsibility to discern God’s will and so help all its local churches and people live fully into the body of Christ.”

Already, one group of progressive United Methodists has announced it isn’t waiting for a vote to form its own denomination.


The Liberation Methodist Connexion launched last November with a virtual worship service and introductory presentation. The LMX—which doesn’t expect members to leave their current denominations or faiths to join—stresses action over doctrine and emphasizes the full inclusion of people of all gender expressions and sexual identities, races and ethnicities, mental and physical abilities, sizes and ages.
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« Reply #137 on: March 05, 2021, 07:46:18 pm »
This is an interesting article about the United Methodists.  I have family members on both sides of this break-up.  It has been interesting to listen to them try to find ways of justification of their actions.   Sadly, all they have to do is be truthful in their position on key points and it would be done, but all the posturing and scripture quoting doesn't resolve a thing.  It just covers up the simple truth that one group has grown apart from the other.  One has chosen a more liberal inclusive interpretation of the Bible and the other chooses a more conservative less open or narrow focus interpretation of the Bible.   It will be interesting to follow how each grows over the next few years for sure. 
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« Reply #138 on: March 13, 2021, 08:15:48 pm »
A thought for you.  Thomas Aquinas theological writing is the foundational basis for many of the modern Christian religions worldwide.  Many of his statements in his writings are strongly influenced by the teachings and writings of Aristotle.   Now, I admit that mostly his influence by Aristotle came through other authors, but it is still clearly there.   During the Reformation, there was a strong pull to distance one's self from this influence of Aristotle, but in my humble opinion, this ultimately failed as we are back to those influences being present.

The thing is, the one lesson that Saint Aquinas knew and rephrased but stated is missing and is hard for mankind to embrace.

"Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all"

Think about this.  We all in here have theology at some level of what and who we are.  We have all increased our own knowledge and we all enjoy learning.  But how many of us say we spend the same amount of time on embracing the meaning of educating our heart - learning to be good people, learning to embrace others and their ideas without judging them against our own ideas.   If you are like me and we are all truthful, not a lot of time is spent this way.  Just look at the last five years in this country and you can see the majority of us embrace anything other than Jesus's teaching of peace love and harmony (my shorthand version of his teachings).

Just something for you to muse on as you spend your day reading writing and interacting with the rest of humanity.   


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« Reply #139 on: March 16, 2021, 05:51:32 pm »
One of the fastest-growing religions in Britain over the last three years is the Jedi.    In the absence of a religion that the youth and young adults can identify with and feel includes them, they will reach out to anything that makes them feel close to any diety.   That is what is killing Christianity is we have not kept up on what will bring them back, instead of the fewer we have the more we alienate the very people we need to attract.  We do not need to sell out values, beliefs, or faith.  We need to find creative ways to make it relatable.

I am old school and believe if a child is raised in a God-loving, church-going environment with no force to participate.  That allows them to ask questions and to learn, they will stay engaged.  But I have witnessed each generation after mine pulls further and further away from Church and some abandoning religion altogether.  The exception is those that have engaged with getting their religion and church from online new age style Christian base churches.   I have watched some of these after I had attended the traditional Church and honestly found no differences in the message or content.   The 20agers I watch with when asked about communion stated they go in person once a month for that, the rest of the time this works just fine.    This tells me that the Christian Religion needs to evolve in some aspects.  While those of us still holding on dearly to our ways we grew up with and are comfortable with,  that will not work for the new group coming up.  We need to be flexible while still showing the need for traditions.  Again it is just my observation and opinion.

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« Reply #140 on: March 29, 2021, 04:10:22 pm »
Here is an exercise for you all to do.  I do this frequently.   Find a quiet time that you can be alone with your thought and ask the following and do the following.

“Speak, Lord I am listening”,

Then jotted down what came to mind.
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« Reply #141 on: March 30, 2021, 08:07:03 am »
actually, every night I ask God to reveal a word, characteristic, promise, something along that lines for me to meditate on for the coming day.  My husband and I share the words (he does something very similar) most of the time, in fact, I can't remember an exception, the words go hand in hand and are important to our spiritual walk for that day.
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« Reply #142 on: March 30, 2021, 04:09:10 pm »
Lori, thank you and I love what you said.
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