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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #104 on: November 21, 2020, 05:11:48 pm »
Borrowed this from church wife goes to.   I liked it so sharing.

Today’s feast celebrates an important truth about Mary: From the beginning of her life, she was dedicated to God, given over to God’s purposes. Because of her dedication to God from an early age, she was called by God to become a greater temple than the magnificent temple in Jerusalem.
If the temple in Jerusalem was the house of God, the place where God was believed to be present in a special way, Mary became the house of the Lord in an even greater way, because she carried the Lord in her womb until she give birth to him. God came to dwell in her, through Jesus, because she was open to God’s presence from the earliest years of her life.
 She is the prime example of the group that Jesus refers to in today’s gospel as those “who do the will of my Father in heaven.” Today’s feast celebrates the fact that from her childhood Mary did the will of God, and was therefore ready to become the temple of God’s Son at the time of God’s choosing.
We too are called to do the will of the Father in heaven so that we too can become temples of the Lord, people who carry Lord’s presence to others. Writing to the church in Corinth, Paul says, “Do you not know that you are God’s temple?” We ask Mary to pray for us now so that we may always do the will of the Father and so become temples of God as she was.

while I agree with you on most all of it, this statement you made:"We ask Mary to pray for us now so that we may always do the will of the Father and so become temples of God as she was."

goes too far and is not biblical. Praying to Mary is praying to another other than GOD.........not a good thing to do.......It is one of the things that will condemn most of those in the RCC theology.

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« Reply #105 on: November 21, 2020, 05:15:48 pm »
Oh, I don't agree with that part either, but  I copied it in its entirety since it wasn't mine.  I have heartburn with Saint worship.  While I find there is value in saints, it is not as persons to pray to are put ahead of God.  For me, it is just fine for them to be examples of the way other have lived a life for God.

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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #106 on: November 28, 2020, 10:45:56 pm »
Hasn't there been more than 2,000 years of silence from God now?
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« Reply #107 on: November 29, 2020, 12:00:10 am »
Well since the last book of the Bible was written till now could be considered the great silence.  By my calculation that is 1924 years.

So yeah you are absolutely right
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« Reply #108 on: November 29, 2020, 12:24:46 am »
Food for thought.  If God did not forgive sinners, heaven would be a very empty lonely place.
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« Reply #109 on: November 29, 2020, 05:34:01 pm »
Food for thought.  If God did not forgive sinners, heaven would be a very empty lonely place.
I agree

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« Reply #110 on: November 29, 2020, 05:42:09 pm »
Hasn't there been more than 2,000 years of silence from God now?
Yes, but!...the four hundred years of silence was between two time where GOD/Jesus was active. One can look at the Bible as a History Book and this 400 years of history was thought to be left out. It was not...

From the time of Jesus' ascension tlll now there has been plenty of writers who recorded every bit of history as it unfolded.  Also, this silent years are open ended yet, even a overall history of the Gentiles and the Jewish people is also written in the Bible.

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« Reply #111 on: November 29, 2020, 08:36:26 pm »
I think a lot of how you look at what is called the years of silence has to do with the individual's viewpoint of what activity means coming from God and Jesus.   While we continue to see their daily miracles big and small and the grace they give and the lessons they provide, I am thinking, and this is just me, that the THeologians and Religions Scholars are meaning a more direct involvement.   

If you are using that viewpoint, then it is easy to see how come they call it silent.   However, if you look at all of the various books of the bibles and the apocrhypha you can easily see they were not silent, just that the compilers of the books making up the bible do not feel that there were inspired works being shared by God during that time, therefore, it is silent.

Just my thoughts.
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« Reply #112 on: November 30, 2020, 07:08:25 pm »
I think a lot of how you look at what is called the years of silence has to do with the individual's viewpoint of what activity means coming from God and Jesus.   While we continue to see their daily miracles big and small and the grace they give and the lessons they provide, I am thinking, and this is just me, that the THeologians and Religions Scholars are meaning a more direct involvement.   

If you are using that viewpoint, then it is easy to see how come they call it silent.   However, if you look at all of the various books of the bibles and the apocrhypha you can easily see they were not silent, just that the compilers of the books making up the bible do not feel that there were inspired works being shared by God during that time, therefore, it is silent.

Just my thoughts.

the silent years I was speaking of is from the OT to the NT. The time in question is the time from Alexander's death until the writing of the NT (except Rev). with brings us another 63-64 years after 1 AD. Thus the 400 silent years is given in Daniel's chapter 11:5-35...

There was so much that happened during this 400 years and yet nothing in the bible except for Daniel 11 is said.

This is what I was speaking of...Mark, apologize I did not specify in the first post.

Blade


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« Reply #113 on: November 30, 2020, 07:16:24 pm »
I poorly worded my response Blade.  I was trying to explain why I thought they called them silent years even so much was going on.  I was pretty sure I understood what you meant, but the clarification confirmed it. 

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« Reply #114 on: December 01, 2020, 08:43:39 am »
I poorly worded my response Blade.  I was trying to explain why I thought they called them silent years even so much was going on.  I was pretty sure I understood what you meant, but the clarification confirmed it.

thanks

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« Reply #115 on: December 10, 2020, 12:20:12 pm »
THE NARCISSISM OF SMALL DIFFERENCES

This terminology was coined by Sigmund Freud.  He based on one of Ernst Crawley’s early works.  It has since found its way into philosophy, political science, and religious studies to explain specific types of behaviors.   What is this and how does it apply to religion you ask?


Let first look at how this is defined.  It is easiest to define it as the in-fighting between like-minded groups that share similar ideas in order to distinguish themselves.   It was originally proposed as a way to show the difference in individuals, egos, one’s personal goals, and feelings.   It has been applied over time from the individual to groups, organizations, and even beliefs.  This is oversimplified, but it will work for this brief writing.

In the last year, I have experienced and seen this concept of behavior act itself out.  I have always searched for a way to explain it.  Recently a professor from a religious studies program and I were discussing the modern Christian movement and the traditional church.  He brought up this to explain what is causing the friction.

He gave this example: I and him agree on everything in our beliefs except one small but salient point.  Salient to each of us as we disagree on it. Now we are passionate about this small difference.  We both take a stand.  Our ego and our feelings are on the line in our minds.  We both passionately believe we are right and the other is wrong.  At first, it is a gentle ribbing.  But, our egos keep getting offended so it escalates, maybe too polite insults.   It just keeps going from there to the point of heated hatred.   We still agree on everything but that one small point.  We just chose to dig in on that point and was willing to let it rule over everything else, including common sense and willingness to agree to disagree on something small, minor, and not of any consequence compared to all that we agree on.

Now take this to a larger scale, a church or politics.  I am going to use church because politics are way too sensitive at this writing to even use as an example.    Now imagine a church that has a sister church. They both agree on everything in their dogma and rituals.  Then one day a new pastor takes over and one little thing he starts doing differently.  Nothing major.  It does not change anything in the dogma or rituals, but it is different.  Very minor.   The Church members like the change so they share the news or the change.   The other church is offended.   At first, it is quiet mutterings. Then the Pastor starts to bring it up as how their church is now in a better position as they did not make changes.   This escalates and now you have two hostile churches.

This is how reformations happen, how new denominations happen, and how religious wars have started.

Next time you find yourself focused on something minor and fixated on making it a point to argue over, think about this simple but dangerous contextual thinking pattern.
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« Reply #116 on: December 15, 2020, 07:26:27 am »
In today’s Gospel, Jesus speaks with the authority figures of the Jewish faith, He asks them to tell him which of two children is truly obedient to the wishes of their parent.  When the parent asks the two “kids” to perform a certain task, the first refuses, but latter does what is asked.  The second one, in contrast, say yes he will do it but does not do what is being asked.  Jesus compares the religious leaders to the second son who says “yes” but fails to do what is requested.  The repentant, public sinners are compared to the first child who initially refuses to do the parent’s demands, but later fulfills what is asked. 

As we draw to the end of this first part of the Advent season, we are called to reflect on our response to doing God’s will.  It is easy to say “yes” to God, but it is harder to actually do what God asks of us.  On the other side of the coin, there is hope for us who have sinned and had said “no” to the Lord God.  We can still change our ways and begin to more fully respond to God by doing what we know is being asked of us.
 
We need to lead a responsible Christian life, saying “yes” to God. We should become men and women who profess our Faith in word and deed, knowing that, the Christian way lies in performance, not just promise, and the mark of a Christian is obedience, graciously and courteously given.
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