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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2020, 11:15:04 am »
Many people think they have left Chrisitian behind them.  That it is no longer needed or necessary.  Some even claim they are atheists.  But, my question is, if you look at how they were and how they are now, can you honestly say the were ever truly believers in Christianity?  Some may never had even a proper introduction to it. 
This is something that I have been contemplating lately.   

What are your thoughts on this?


I agree and I believe the parable of the sower exemplifies this point. The five foolish virgins that have no personal relationship with our Lord at all (He does not know them!) are in the wedding party after all.


Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil


Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

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« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2020, 11:10:40 am »
That is a very good parable for this issue at least for me.  Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

George Orwell

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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2020, 04:29:50 pm »
A thought that just pased through my head: If you have no faith in yourself can never have faith in God.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #55 on: August 17, 2020, 08:26:59 am »
A thought that just pased through my head: If you have no faith in yourself can never have faith in God.
I might argue that until you lose faith in yourself, you have no idea how to have faith in God.

Such a busy day ahead but let me explain.  When we have faith in ourselves, we are trustingour own abilitites when we are to trust God for the things that we need.  In the military, they break you down before building you us into a unit rather than an individual yet the centurian was hailed in scripture as having a faith unlike any Christ had seen before.  He had learned how to stop being an individual, putting his trust in himself and learned how to be a unit, with trust in the commanders over him.  Until we learn to be a body, a soldier whose commander is God, we are missing it.

Speaking of missing it, maybe I missed where you were going with this and thus spoke out of turn.
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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #56 on: August 17, 2020, 12:14:51 pm »
Actually Lori, The thought occurred and then I got distracted and did not finish my thought.

What I was getting at, if we do not have faith in ourselves as in faith in our own faith and belief in God, then having faith alone will not stand up to tempations and tests of life.  Our faith in our own faith must be so strong that our faith in God is unwavering.

That is all the further I got into my thought process.

Hope that helps  explain my thought better.
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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #57 on: August 17, 2020, 02:15:25 pm »
Actually Lori, The thought occurred and then I got distracted and did not finish my thought.

What I was getting at, if we do not have faith in ourselves as in faith in our own faith and belief in God, then having faith alone will not stand up to tempations and tests of life.  Our faith in our own faith must be so strong that our faith in God is unwavering.

That is all the further I got into my thought process.

Hope that helps  explain my thought better.
I looked into studying our faith and never finished. We are told by God that if our faith; if MY faith was that of the size of a mustard seed I could remove a mountain. That tells me that God knows we are ALL weak in faith. I believe it is the faith of Jesus Christ that saves me and not my own tiny miniscule portion of "faith".

On the other hand, I believe and nothing will ever change that. Complicated is our faith.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #58 on: August 17, 2020, 03:20:14 pm »
I think the mustard seed is a perfect example of knowing your own faith and knowing your faith in God.  Yes PJ we are all weak, we all have succumbed to some type of tempations in our lives, it is what we do after and if we use it to make faith n God stronger that really counts.  That, as always is my opinion.  As for studying faith, I am with you, I have not studied it, and not sure I will, but I did have a passing thought I expressed.
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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #59 on: August 17, 2020, 11:18:32 pm »
Actually Lori, The thought occurred and then I got distracted and did not finish my thought.

What I was getting at, if we do not have faith in ourselves as in faith in our own faith and belief in God, then having faith alone will not stand up to tempations and tests of life.  Our faith in our own faith must be so strong that our faith in God is unwavering.

That is all the further I got into my thought process.

Hope that helps  explain my thought better.
I looked into studying our faith and never finished. We are told by God that if our faith; if MY faith was that of the size of a mustard seed I could remove a mountain. That tells me that God knows we are ALL weak in faith. I believe it is the faith of Jesus Christ that saves me and not my own tiny miniscule portion of "faith".

On the other hand, I believe and nothing will ever change that. Complicated is our faith.

Having Faith in Jesus is given to us in the scripture. "according to Scripture" we are told three times in the representation of His Gospel (1 Cor 15:1-4).   The more we study His word, the deeper our faith becomes.

Me, I simply believe every word of the KJV Bible to the point that I have faith that I can prove it is His WORD. The WORD of an extraterrestrial, one beyond our time who took His time to create us, guide us through the centuries and give us a way to become immortal (eternal) with HIM....I look forward to that day.

Therefore, every time you are reading/studying the Bible, you are studying your faith in Him.

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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« Reply #60 on: August 18, 2020, 06:41:54 am »
Actually Lori, The thought occurred and then I got distracted and did not finish my thought.

What I was getting at, if we do not have faith in ourselves as in faith in our own faith and belief in God, then having faith alone will not stand up to tempations and tests of life.  Our faith in our own faith must be so strong that our faith in God is unwavering.

That is all the further I got into my thought process.

Hope that helps  explain my thought better.
I guess I see it as faith in God and His promises rather than faith in myself.  I was taught to short version, hate myself and there are times where that is a problem but other times when it is a great blessing because I put no faith in myself, thus having to put faith in someone else, I chose to trust God.  Hope that makes sense....I am not saying you are wrong, just saying how I see the terminology if nothing else.

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« Reply #61 on: August 18, 2020, 06:47:25 am »
I think there are many that misunderstand this passage...Romans 10:17
King James Version
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

but for the sake of discussion, how do you think this passage fits into the discussion?

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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #62 on: August 18, 2020, 07:25:12 am »
I think there are many that misunderstand this passage...Romans 10:17
King James Version
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

but for the sake of discussion, how do you think this passage fits into the discussion?
It means one must hear about God and Christ. Obviously you can't believe something you've never heard nor seen of.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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« Reply #63 on: August 18, 2020, 09:31:11 am »
I think there are many that misunderstand this passage...Romans 10:17
King James Version
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

but for the sake of discussion, how do you think this passage fits into the discussion?
It means one must hear about God and Christ. Obviously you can't believe something you've never heard nor seen of.
i am a firm believer in the totality of scripture so lets add Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

to our undersstanding...if our faith is in our faith, who is our faith really in if He is the one that gave it to us?  And if HE is the one that gave it to us, then we must have heard HIS voice in order to have recieved it, whether it was from the Bible, a teacher, a preacher, a song, or just from the Spirit's whisper, or yell (lol)

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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #64 on: August 18, 2020, 09:38:26 am »
I think there are many that misunderstand this passage...Romans 10:17
King James Version
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

but for the sake of discussion, how do you think this passage fits into the discussion?
It means one must hear about God and Christ. Obviously you can't believe something you've never heard nor seen of.
i am a firm believer in the totality of scripture so lets add Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

to our understanding...if our faith is in our faith, who is our faith really in if He is the one that gave it to us?  And if HE is the one that gave it to us, then we must have heard HIS voice in order to have recieved it, whether it was from the Bible, a teacher, a preacher, a song, or just from the Spirit's whisper, or yell (lol)
Amen. I was thinking of those who never heard of Jesus or the words in scripture, like before Jesus walked the earth etc remote islands and deep jungles etc.

So, I thought that God speaks to us but would we instinctively "know" God has a Son? Who died for every person for remission of sins? That's why my statement and subsequent belief that MY faith is small and weak and we are actually saved by His blood and His faith. I believe that nothing I do or can ever do in the earth will "get me to heaven" which also reminds me of the thread I started about the Crowns awarded in heaven.
Hearing, believing and trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross; His death, burial and resurrection for the forgiveness of sins and REPENTING, seals us with that Holy Spirit of Promise - EPHESIANS 1:10-14 KJV - The Lord is not slack concerning His promise. 2 Peter 3:9 KJV - 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV - Ephesians 1:10-14 KJV - Romans 10:9-10 KJV - Romans 10:13 - Romans 10:17 - Ephesians 1:7 KJV - Colossians 1:14 KJV -


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