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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2020, 05:12:16 pm »
If I said I am a Christian, I am not saying I am a clean living person, I am whispering that I am not, that I was lost, but have been found and forgiven. If I tell you I am a Christian I am not speaking it with pride, I am whispering it, as I know I have to stumble and need Christ in my life as my guide.   I am not trying to be strong if I say I am a Christian, no I am admitting I am weak and need His strength to carry on.  If I told you I am a Christian I am not bragging, no I am stating I have failed, and I have failed many times, and need God to help me clean up my messes.  If I tell you I am a Christian  I am not claiming I perfect, My flaws are far too many and way too visible for that claim,  by God believes I am worth his grace.  When I say I do say I am a Christian  I am not saying it as holier than thou, no I am just a simple everyday sinner who received Godís grace, somehow, and want to share.
Wow, this is awesome Chaplain Mark !!! Thank you -

Mark, it may seem that I am dumping on you in my last two post. I assure you I am not but rather trying to present a different opinion and why I have that opinion.   

You are doing a great job on this forum and I hope you are here for a long while.

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1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2020, 09:59:23 pm »
I took it as you meant it you sincere beliefs and the point as a theologian that you are coming from.  I love all viewpoints as that is how I gain knowledge perspective and understanding.   That is why we are all here is it not and exchange of ideas, and beliefs in the glory of God?
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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2020, 10:38:52 pm »
I took it as you meant it you sincere beliefs and the point as a theologian that you are coming from.  I love all viewpoints as that is how I gain knowledge perspective and understanding.   That is why we are all here is it not and exchange of ideas, and beliefs in the glory of God?

Amen!

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Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2020, 02:35:42 pm »
While I was going through the various Bibles that I have that are King James Versions I came across a slip of paper  I wish I could take credit for, but alas it was my mothers insights she had written and stuck in my baptismal gift Bible.

It goes like this

   This book contains the mind of God, the state of man, the way of Salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers.  Its doctrines are Holy,  its principles are binding, its histories are true and its decisions are immutable.  Read it to be wise, believe it to be safe, practice it to be Holy.
    It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to cheer you.  It is travelers map, the pilgrim's staff, the pilot's com[pass, the soldier's sword, and the Christians chart.  In here Paradise is restored, heaven opened and the gates of hell disclosed.   Christ is its grand subject, our good its design, and the Glory to God its end.  It should fill the memory, rule the heard, guide the feet.  Read it slowly, fervently and prayerfully.
    It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of health, and a river of pleasure.  It is given to you in life, will be opened in judgement and will be remembered forever.   It involves the highest responsibility, rewards the greatest labor, and condemns all who trifles with its Holy content.

Give to you my son, December 1966.




 
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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2020, 02:43:32 pm »
While I was going through the various Bibles that I have that are King James Versions I came across a slip of paper  I wish I could take credit for, but alas it was my mothers insights she had written and stuck in my baptismal gift Bible.

It goes like this

   This book contains the mind of God, the state of man, the way of Salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers.  Its doctrines are Holy,  its principles are binding, its histories are true and its decisions are immutable.  Read it to be wise, believe it to be safe, practice it to be Holy.
    It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to cheer you.  It is travelers map, the pilgrim's staff, the pilot's com[pass, the soldier's sword, and the Christians chart.  In here Paradise is restored, heaven opened and the gates of hell disclosed.   Christ is its grand subject, our good its design, and the Glory to God its end.  It should fill the memory, rule the heard, guide the feet.  Read it slowly, fervently and prayerfully.
    It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of health, and a river of pleasure.  It is given to you in life, will be opened in judgement and will be remembered forever.   It involves the highest responsibility, rewards the greatest labor, and condemns all who trifles with its Holy content.

Give to you my son, December 1966.




 
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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2020, 10:16:49 pm »
While I was going through the various Bibles that I have that are King James Versions I came across a slip of paper  I wish I could take credit for, but alas it was my mothers insights she had written and stuck in my baptismal gift Bible.

It goes like this

   This book contains the mind of God, the state of man, the way of Salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers.  Its doctrines are Holy,  its principles are binding, its histories are true and its decisions are immutable.  Read it to be wise, believe it to be safe, practice it to be Holy.
    It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to cheer you.  It is travelers map, the pilgrim's staff, the pilot's com[pass, the soldier's sword, and the Christians chart.  In here Paradise is restored, heaven opened and the gates of hell disclosed.   Christ is its grand subject, our good its design, and the Glory to God its end.  It should fill the memory, rule the heard, guide the feet.  Read it slowly, fervently and prayerfully.
    It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of health, and a river of pleasure.  It is given to you in life, will be opened in judgement and will be remembered forever.   It involves the highest responsibility, rewards the greatest labor, and condemns all who trifles with its Holy content.

Give to you my son, December 1966.




 
Wow, 54 years ago. That is beautiful.

As many mothers, still taking care of her son! Beautiful Yes.

Blade
1 Cor 15:3-4.."For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

Acts 17:11.."These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2020, 12:27:51 pm »
In reading a biography about C.S. Lewis and have read one recentlyon Tolkien I have came to a conclusion we need another ers as the 1930"s in publishing in English literature.  The main stream books published all had a undercurrent of Christian themes in them.  It was a marvelous era for authors of certain beliefs.

That is what we need for the intellectual side of our beleifs.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2020, 01:19:31 am »
Many people think they have left Chrisitian behind them.  That it is no longer needed or necessary.  Some even claim they are atheists.  But, my question is, if you look at how they were and how they are now, can you honestly say the were ever truly believers in Christianity?  Some may never had even a proper introduction to it. 
This is something that I have been contemplating lately.   

What are your thoughts on this?
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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2020, 07:02:05 am »
Many people think they have left Chrisitian behind them.  That it is no longer needed or necessary.  Some even claim they are atheists.  But, my question is, if you look at how they were and how they are now, can you honestly say the were ever truly believers in Christianity?  Some may never had even a proper introduction to it. 
This is something that I have been contemplating lately.   

What are your thoughts on this?
Since I do not believe it is impossible to "fall away" I believe that for some it is that they never understood they need an actual relationship with God, personal and all but for others, they simply didn't have deep enough roots to sustain them.

I also believe that some of the falling away is on the church unfortunately.  Our pastor has been fond of saying that in many instances we are just leaving the newborn believer on the floor to fend for themselves...meaning we are not disciplineing them.  In fact, discipleship is what we feel God is calling and leading us into because it is sorely missing it seems in the churches today.

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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2020, 10:33:53 am »
While I do think you can stray away, not sure if you can fall completely away.  While I never topped beleiveing, I did stray down a different path that pushed my beliefs to the back of my thoughts and action for many years.  While I never stopped praying and did not stop my conversations with God,  I was not giving anything a active thought.

I  fully agree some of the fault falls squarely on the churches.  The church I grew up in had a mentorship program to bring new members and new converts along for a full year.   When I started my journey back to faith, I had no one so I used books, you tube, forums like this and now it is a habit that has replaced the church more that it should.  I still feel abandon by the church is most of it.   That is not how it was intend by the founding apostles and disciplines of Christ.

Thank you for a good post to stimulate thought.
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Re: Chaplain's Chat
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2020, 02:11:03 pm »
While I do think you can stray away, not sure if you can fall completely away.  While I never topped beleiveing, I did stray down a different path that pushed my beliefs to the back of my thoughts and action for many years.  While I never stopped praying and did not stop my conversations with God,  I was not giving anything a active thought.

I  fully agree some of the fault falls squarely on the churches.  The church I grew up in had a mentorship program to bring new members and new converts along for a full year.   When I started my journey back to faith, I had no one so I used books, you tube, forums like this and now it is a habit that has replaced the church more that it should.  I still feel abandon by the church is most of it.   That is not how it was intend by the founding apostles and disciplines of Christ.

Thank you for a good post to stimulate thought.
I have never walked away, even for a season (btw, I believe there is a difference between straying and falling away) so I can't relate to that but as to the church I totally get it.  We ourselves did not go to a local church body for a season and we didn't have a lot of access at that time to on line things.  The church can and often is a very hostile place.  I pray for a revival including but not limited to the "church".

If you ever feel the need to talk I'm just a PM away or Brian would be happy to talk or listen ;) as well.  (in case you don't know, Brian is my husband and is easiest found on the theology forum as chaplain but I can give you more contact for him as well.

To give you an idea, not only have we experienced some of the usual abuses of the church but one church where Brian pastored, got so upset about him preaching that we are to love even our enemies that they threatened him, when he stood firm, they threatened me, when that didn't cause him to cave, they threatened our children, when he still stood firm, they fired him.  We went to another church and they got so upset that a couple of much older deaccons children literally through our then young boys against the brick wall, we were on the verge of ER visit...didn't take long for them to fire him after that, all because he would not cave on the word of God...and that is just a few stories I could share.

Today we are part of a body but have been mistreated there as well.  So we focus on the faithful there and the ministry God is calling us into and allow God to defend us, protect us, and even avenge us in His time.  (Not that we want vengeance but that God will punish those that need corrected and judge as is just.

May you grow in our Lord and King as you fall deeper and deeper in Love with Him.

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« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2020, 10:53:52 am »

Any feed back, ideas or suggestions gladly taken.

I can start this as a separate thread if you all think that would be better
You might be interested in the FB group: Outlaw Church of West Texas led by Clint Overland ... 
« Last Edit: August 06, 2020, 11:23:39 am by Ted T. »
Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil


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« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2020, 11:04:37 am »
Does that mean we are saved before we ever believe?


The elect are under the promise of salvation by their election looooong before the salvation process is ever started in them. Is HIS promise good? Then the sinful elect can be counted among the saved and the righteous though still in thier sins...
Wheat are NOT reborn / regenerate tares !!!

Matt 13:36-43  ...Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

38 the field is the world
good seed are of the kingdom sown by the Son of man
tares are of the wicked one 39 sown by the devil


Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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